They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

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But... the trailers...

http://i.imgur.com/9k3fE.jpg

StanM, Sunday, 3 June 2012 07:21 (eleven years ago) link

*hangs head*

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 June 2012 07:24 (eleven years ago) link

Having watched Alien last night I'm not sure I want to see this any more.

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Sunday, 3 June 2012 09:36 (eleven years ago) link

imo watch the trailers slowed down to 160 mins, imagine the rest. You'll remember it more fondly

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 3 June 2012 10:04 (eleven years ago) link

Alien: it busts at your chest!

StanM, Sunday, 3 June 2012 11:37 (eleven years ago) link

I thought this was terrific. I'm no fanboy and went in with lower expectations after reading some of the comments and was pleasantly surprised. There's some parts of the plot which frankly need explanation or at least a re watching, which I'll pass on to avoid spoilers, but the second act on is such a blast I was happy to leave that aside.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, 3 June 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

And Kate Dickie of 'Red Road as a doctor made me smile.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, 3 June 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link

SyFy is running Aliens on the pub flatscreen here. I had forgotten that the entire Rescue Newt sequence is all orange-and-teal.com

Also, that there is _no_ music during the search part. This is back when James Cameron knew what he was doing.

Dreaming in Infrared (kingfish), Sunday, 3 June 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link

fwiw my sister texted me this evening, said she and her husband loved it.

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 3 June 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link

this film is getting the most divided reviews i've seen for a very long time.

piscesx, Monday, 4 June 2012 01:35 (eleven years ago) link

I wish filmmakers would start releasing different versions of their films, like, versions that are different by 20% or so, and not tell anyone. Them someone would see this and tell their friend, hey, I loved the part when such and such happened, and their friend would be all, huh? And then they would say they didn't like the such and such, and the first friend would be all, what? And then they'd each have to see it again to figure out what's going on. And then they'd compare notes and be all, oohhhhh, now I get it!!!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 June 2012 03:21 (eleven years ago) link

Pulling that on a mass-scale release would be fantastic.

Björk lied (Eric H.), Monday, 4 June 2012 03:24 (eleven years ago) link

that would've been cool a couple decades or more ago, but you know the internet would suck all the fun and excitement out of that in about a day now (xpost)

kel ler/pharmacists (some dude), Monday, 4 June 2012 03:24 (eleven years ago) link

wld rate this abt as highly as The Thing prequel

Ward Fowler, Monday, 4 June 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

Would it still be bad if it were not a sequel to alien, if there was no first alien movie to compare it to?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 June 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

yes

Number None, Monday, 4 June 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

So, is it:

Alien > Aliens > Prometheus > Alien 3 > Alien Resurrection?

or

Alien > Aliens > Alien 3 > Prometheus > Alien Resurrection?

or *gasp*

Alien > Aliens > Alien 3 > Alien Resurrection > Prometheus?

StanM, Monday, 4 June 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

everything i have seen indicates it will be ridiculous

i sort of started tuning out when i saw the doughnut-shaped alien ship bearing down on noomi like a wagon wheel

the late great, Monday, 4 June 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

i am gonna set an arbitrary deadline at 50 ballots

"50 ballotz stands for 1 ballot from every state of the USA, all them ballotz would be stronger than every weapon, if they would be united - THUG LIFE"

the late great, Monday, 4 June 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

oops

the late great, Monday, 4 June 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

it works here, too

WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Monday, 4 June 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

I thought for sure this had opened in the US already. Hype Machine must be blown up.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 June 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

Alien Resurrection is great, fuiud

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 4 June 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

ok, switch Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection around if you're that way inclined, I don't mind. :-)

StanM, Monday, 4 June 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

Now I'm curious how this movie can be so terrible. Is it Transformers terrible, or just terrible because of missed potential? Like, is it inept or just too ambitious?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 June 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

What was the deal w guy pearce's makeup in this movie

just sayin, Monday, 4 June 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

He was cheaper than an actual old guy I suppose.

StanM, Monday, 4 June 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

resurrection was better than this, because it was just dumb and played dumb. might help answer your question too josh.

agree with number none on this- this movie doesn't work at all independently of hype or relation to any other movies, it just doesn't make any sense in and of itself

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Monday, 4 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

Again, I'm finding myself in the same boat as I was with Dark Shadows. This isn't bad enough to earn the glory of being a great bad movie.

Björk lied (Eric H.), Monday, 4 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

I really liked this, although I've only seen Aliens (years ago and wasn't moved). There are some majorly daft rmde moments but by the end it's just rollicking great fun.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link

this was ok i guess. my first 3D film!

+ one particular scene is can't-turn-away-even-though-every-instinct-is-recoiling gripping, and if i was a female it might have actually traumatised me
+ one line from the captain is v amusing
+ michael fassbender is amazing
+ the charlize theron character is interesting
+ blah blah blah impressive cgi stops you falling asleep at least though i think i don't really "get" special effects as a replacement for plot and dialogue and characterisation

- almost nothing of consequence actually happens. there are setpieces but even i, who am not that familiar w/the alien series and have not been following the prometheus hype much, was not actually surprised by a single thing about it
- it doesn't engage with big or deep questions lol. i mean you can say the actual words "who are we and where do we come from" but that doesn't make it deep
- noomi rapace character way less interesting than charlize theron
- as per every blockbuster it misses a ton of tricks that could've made it more interesting or tense in more then a basic way. the two final survivors having to talk to each other and work together, for instance
- characterisation didn't go anywhere deep enough - the android is the most complex character ffs, for all that it purported to ask "why?" about everything nothing is ACTUALLY EXPLAINED EVER, half the characters' motivation may as well be completely random

just a really average film basically

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 08:25 (eleven years ago) link

you should see alien, the first one, it is lean and wicked

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 13:16 (eleven years ago) link

^ speaketh the gospel.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

- it doesn't engage with big or deep questions lol. i mean you can say the actual words "who are we and where do we come from" but that doesn't make it deep
- or all that it purported to ask "why?" about everything nothing is ACTUALLY EXPLAINED EVER, half the characters' motivation may as well be completely random

LINDELOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF!

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

I don't regret my time watching it, but it is mostly bobbins. A friend made the interesting point that a lot of the set up is very similar to Aliens vs Predators, which is odd not least because this was put on hold (while still a twinkle in HR Giger's eye) so AvP could be made.

Lex hugely OTM about nothing consequential or surprising happening. Also the dialogue went out of its way to ensure this (drinking at the space-billiard table probably the worst of this), and the last scene (might be after the credits, I don't remember) seems to have been hammered in to underline certain connections for the really dim.

But yeah - I would recommend people to go see it EG cheap at the Prince Charles in 2D.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

it doesn't engage with big or deep questions lol. i mean you can say the actual words "who are we and where do we come from" but that doesn't make it deep

tempted to put this post above my writing/drawing desk in perpetuo

but he go's to a resturang and then die in a toilet (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

worst/dumbest scene/dialogue was pearce/theron imo, but there were several contenders- preamble to scientist sexy times was especially painful

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

Not deep you say!?

And I know it’s horribly obnoxious to say “You need to see the movie a couple of times in order to truly appreciate it”, but I do feel like it was designed that way and there are little things that seem like a throw-away on first viewing.

For example, when they do the carbon gating on the dead engineer and realise he has been dead for 2000 years then you wonder about when, 2000 years ago, the Engineers decided to wipe us out. What happened 2000 years ago? Is there any correlation with what happened on the earth 2000 years ago and this decision that was already in motion? Could a sequel start in that time period and contextualize what we did to piss these beings off?

I think it’s a very interesting question to leave dangling. Is it a loose end? Yeah, probably. But it’s probably what sends you to the pub after the movie and has you arguing with your friends as to what you think it might mean.

Number None, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link

rmde

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

Alien 5: SPACE JESUS

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

questions also left open for the two sequels apparently in the pipeline

DG, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

unless the appalling word of mouth on this scuppers those plans

Number None, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

in the past, that has stopped nothing!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

WAS JESUS A PREDATOR

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

*mind explodes, quits job, changes user name*

but he go's to a resturang and then die in a toilet (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

tbh i'm resigned to this film being poo but i know i'm going to end up seeing it anyway if only to pull it to pieces

DG, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

in Alien Russia, film pulls you to pieces!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

^ already a better plot than this POS

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

we should totally write the jesus-predator-alien sequel, I'm sure we can pitch a better treatment than this Lindeloff guy

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

as someone who frequently leaves cinemas seething with rage at slapdash insulting blockbuster tripe, i agree with p much everyone's criticisms but i had a decent time anyway and don't particularly regret going.

(altho saying that, this was also my first 3d screening and it felt more like a ride than anything tbh, the sensory overload made it weirdly difficult to track narrative and characterization on the fly as you usually would)

r|t|c, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link


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