brian starts singing on "the compromise..." part
― tylerw, Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I think it's Al too (had to listen to "The Beak of Eagles" to compare lol)
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link
In contrast to the rest of the album, which relies on creaky nostalgia
have to quibble with this - the music it's emulating is less well known than the '60s stuff but it's just as "nostalgic" in its recollection of past Beach Boys music. The first track of the three is straight up Disney Girls - which means it's actually nostalgia for nostalgia given the subject of the track.
― skip, Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link
Are you guys talking about the "sunlight's fading" line? That really sounds like Brian to me...listen to the vowel pronunciation on "not".
― skip, Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link
no I mean the whole first couple verses
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
if you've heard Brian recently, there is no way in hell he is singing those opening lines.
also the idea that there is some lack of wistful Beach Boys songs about aging, the end of summer, moving on etc. is laughable...
― skip, Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link
it's al for the first half and then brian takes over around 2:15 or so.
― tylerw, Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link
^^^
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
The first couple verses in "From There to Back Again" - I also think that's Al.
― skip, Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that's what we're saying. i really like this song! a nice surprise.
― tylerw, Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
me too, I'm almost scared to listen to the rest of the album now.
― skip, Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
"Isn't It Time" is like an unholy combination of all the things I dislike about both 15 Big Ones and Love You.
― skip, Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
Mike Love sounds terrible.
the chorus of "Shelter" is really nice.
― skip, Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
"Summer's Gone" (B. WIlson, J. Bon Jovi, J. Thomas)
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:41 (eleven years ago) link
Is this the part of the album I will love the most?
sound p much like a summary of Lucky Old Sun tbh, did you like that?
― ┗|∵|┓ (sic), Friday, 1 June 2012 01:01 (eleven years ago) link
Is this the part of the album I will love the most? Or that will now prove to be the most disappointing to me?
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 1 June 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link
also the idea that there is some lack of wistful Beach Boys songs about aging
If you want nostalgia, listen to "When I Grow Up", a wistful song about aging - starting at the ripe age of 14 and looking ahead year-by-year to how scary being 21 might be. The years really fly by quickly in the fadeout, which takes us from 22 all the way to 30 just before the coda fades into silence. One gets the sense that turning 30 must have felt like a distant riding into the sunset when it was recorded.
Youth, gotta love it....
― Lee971 (Lee626), Friday, 1 June 2012 06:38 (eleven years ago) link
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Friday, 1 June 2012 08:06 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry about that last mispost
OK, aging literally means getting older. But I think there's a substantial difference between 60s songs in which aging means having to grow up and face responsibilities and now, when aging means facing up to death.
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Friday, 1 June 2012 08:08 (eleven years ago) link
Til I Die, dude.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 June 2012 12:01 (eleven years ago) link
New track would be enjoyable but for pitch correction -- the Beach Boys harmonies were never quite in tune, so making them so screw things up.
― Three Word Username, Friday, 1 June 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
Look ma, no pitch correction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDIBMaCTwFw
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 June 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
Fun (fun fun) to watch these old clips and hear them pull off the harmonies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgDApIGvFxA&feature=related
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 June 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link
At my guitar lesson yesterday we were talking about what an insane chord progression you find in "California Girls," not just the descending chords in the chorus (that bring you back to the right place) but the A/B they throw in in the verse, specifically how so few (if any) pop ®acts were harmonically sophisticated enough at the time to throw in a jazzy chord like that.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 June 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
xpost Til I Die isn't about aging - it's about our tininess in the eternal scheme of things. Having the word Die in a title doesn't something into a rumination on mortality. If it did, Bruce Willis's career would have been very different.
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Friday, 1 June 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link
Aging is about our tininess in the eternal scheme of things! But yeah, I know, I get it.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 June 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link
the die hard movies are totally about aging, he's always getting too old for this shit
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 June 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
for the new songs,
man writingwise they aren't as bad as i feared, parts are even kind of amazing
but lord, the production is so sterile, and it's not even "80s" glossy which is at least an aesthetic, but i feel like all the bad things about music production ever have coalesced now on protools and it's just a nightmare
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 June 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
heard this in the supermarket today while getting milk n stuff and holy shit this is awful
― it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 1 June 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
stop trying to deny your mortality. we're all going to die.
― tylerw, Friday, 1 June 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
jesus christ is there any thread that can putter along without a mention of Bruce Willis
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 1 June 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdlmhNujn0U
^^that's why god made the internet
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 June 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
we're all going to die hard
― tylerw, Friday, 1 June 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
I have no idea why people are complaining about the production. It's fairly wet sounding. Do people not like the e.q. or something?
― timellison, Friday, 1 June 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link
http://i47.tinypic.com/jzab1s.jpg
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 June 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― tylerw, Friday, 1 June 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
ha
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 1 June 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
Those concert clips should be shown to any idiot who would argue that being perfectly in tune with a piano keyboard has anything to do with good group harmony singing in rock music.
― Three Word Username, Friday, 1 June 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
Anyone looking to the music itself to check for signs of cynicism need only turn to Spring Vacation. It opens with a verse in which Mike Love claims to be "living the dream … cruisin' the town, diggin' the scene". The Beach Boys' music has often involved a suspension of disbelief – all those songs depicting a perfect, gilded California youth, written by a man whose own youth had been mired in physical and mental abuse – but this seems to push unreality to its limit. You find yourself wondering why on earth a 71-year-old would be cruisin' the town and diggin' the scene: perhaps he's plannin' on askin' them to keep the noise down so an old man can get some rest.
Haven't heard the new album net except the single and now "From There to Back Again" which I really like, but yeah, the production sounds like something Magic Garageband came up with. I'll have to listen to the "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times" soundtrack again before deciding whether using pitch correction for the new one was a good idea.
― Lee971 (Lee626), Friday, 1 June 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
the production sounds like something Magic Garageband came up with.
I don't think so! I use Garageband all the time and this sounds more like a really nice studio with really nice microphones to me!
― timellison, Friday, 1 June 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
Tickets for the Wembley show went on sale today, my brother got us a couple. Mixed feelings about that.
― JimD, Friday, 1 June 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
xp I wasn't insulting GarageBand's technical prowess, which is impressive IMO, just commenting that it somehow comes across as electronically-enhanced rather than a natural live performance. Mind you the Beach Boys were on the forefront of making records that weren't intended to sound like a live performance. Double-tracking was to 1963 what Auto-Tune is to 2012.
― Lee971 (Lee626), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
There's definitely a little "Surf's Up" in "From There to Back Again." And did anyone else notice the scanning of the word "wonderful" at around 1:35 or so?
― timellison, Friday, 1 June 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
gah the pitch correction just ruins this stuff.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 2 June 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
by default i guess this is the best beach boys stuff since the mid-70s, but jeez.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 2 June 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
or late 70s i dunno.
LA (Light Album) is better than this
― Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Sunday, 3 June 2012 11:43 (eleven years ago) link
nah, only if the new one had a 12 minute disco version of "God Only Knows", or maybe a dubstep remake of "Surf's Up"
― Lee626, Sunday, 3 June 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link