They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

wonderment = avatar

in place of scariness there is avatar

actually many cinephiles i know do sorta think this

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, May 30, 2012 3:49 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark

ironic appreciation of tony scott has definitely been on the rise in recent years (myself included), but very few people are prepared to make a serious argument for a reassessment of his work. i guess that could easily change if enough of a consensus builds up...

Armond probably likes Tony Scott, right?

wait he probably hates Denzel though

never change, Armond

this thread is going to kill my dreams like the Community thread did, isn't it. Just tell me now, it's cool

I don't want this movie to suck ;_;

"unstoppable", "true romance" and "crimson tide" are all pretty well regarded, both by critics and fans. not much else of note though. he's made quite a few tough-guy action thrillers, and that kind of genre consistency appeals to "reappraising" auteurist types.

The Last Boy Scout is a better brainless POS than True Romance.

what i really want to know is what do dr morbius and shakey think about this movie

I think.... they love it

Tomorrow, Imax, South Bank, industry screening. I've never been to the Imax before; apparently I should go "as high up and as far back as possible". That sounds rude, sorry.

Tony Scott is very highly regarded in mirrors/feathers/gunfire spheres

imax? That's like seeing it in 4D!

IT'S LIKE GOING TO SPACE

Yeah, I should probably get my optic nerves rewired or something - I'm not sure I have the visual bandwidth for this.

I need to get a space helmet and breathing apparatus

oops not I = u need to

"not as imaginative as Alien" is p damning from my chair

― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:18 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Is that the chair from which you think "Alien" is a boring, overrated snoozefest?

I mean just let us know which side you're playing here so we know exactly how much to ignore you.

Morbius in his chair

http://images.wikia.com/headhuntersholosuite/images/e/e9/Space_Jockey_001.jpg

Part of the reason the Tony Scott movies of the 2000s are disliked by many—and intensely loved by others—is the total lack of "big" gestures in his current approach to directing. These movies consist entirely of small moments, off-the-cuff images, strung together into something massive yet lacking an "obvious" grand design. No big plans, just hidden smiles. This makes Scott a harder sell than similarly-concerned directors like Michael Mann, who anchors his intuitive moments to grand ones, or Claire Denis, who presents them as the directorial gestures that they are. The party line on Scott is that he's an "empty stylist," a man who makes "technically accomplished" and therefore insubstantial films with too much editing. On the one hand, I probably wouldn't be here defending Scott if his movies consisted of shots that ran for minutes instead of seconds; on the other hand, I wouldn't think they were worth defending if that were true.

You've probably figured this one out: I don't intend to brush off Scott's style, nor am I going to defend it as candy, as sugary, calorie-free style, as "pure color" or "style-for-the-sake-of-style-get-over-it-and-have-some-fun-why-don't-you." Scott's recent films are beautiful, but beauty is not a question of surfaces (contrary to the old saying, it's "prettiness" that's merely skin-deep). I am here to defend the substance and morality of Scott's recent films, and a defense of the recent Scott is, at its core, a defense of his editing: the jitters, the saccades, the 250 BPM intercutting, crashing and burning that are integral to the hidden-in-plain-view heart of Scott.

http://soundsimages.blogspot.com/2010/12/scotts-metaphysical-romances-pt-1.html

first time a Scott has been contrasted w/ C Denis?

I'll be honest and say her work isn't the first that comes to mind when watching Domino.

My problem with most of Ridley's work since his career resurrection is his insistence on trying to recapture the corny glories of Gladiator. A Good Year aside - easily one of the worst movies of the last decade, despite it's train-wreck watchability - I think the bigger efforts have had good elements to them, but crowd-pleasing over-sentimentality always gets in the way. Robin Hood is awful, but mostly because of how much he gets right and then squanders it time and time again with a terrible screenplay and absolutely no understanding of how to match the visuals with the hokey, focus-grouped story. Early reviews of this are disappointing, but if you're not chock full of trepidation going into a Ridley Scott film at this point, you're probably a deranged optimist. I'm just hoping the film embraces the grimness and doesn't have a bunch of (wonderfully costumed) kids on ponies charging onto a battlefield.

I'll rep for the director's cut of Kingdom of Heaven though.

"Matchstick Men" an underrated Ridley detour, featuring one of the last times Nic Cage acted, along with "Lord of War."

I always forget about that one. It was solid from what I remember.

oh dear, it's kind of a shrug

I'll be honest and say her work isn't the first that comes to mind when watching Domino.

thank you, genuine lols at this

and i might as well say, considering it cost 1 trillion dollars this was the most poorly planned and executed scientific mission of all time

damnit not only are my expectations rapidly plummeting, i'm now feeling bad about dragging along my flatmate who only saw alien a couple of months ago.

i'd recommend seeing it in 2D as well. Things get pretty murky

How do you think it would hold up for an 8-year-old boy?

There's some pretty disgusting imagery. I wouldn't recommend it

Oh, disgusting isn't really the issue. I'm more concerned about it's ability to hold his attention. He's been sorta stoked for it following the trailer.

well it's not exactly a thrill a minute. It feels a bit aimless at times actually

Hmmmm...doesn't sound promising.

Bah. Aliens is idle for long stretches, and that movie is awesome. We as a collective culture need to work on our attention spans, people!

this isn't Aliens dude. Far from it

He liked Aliens, from what I hear (watched it with his mother - lol), but even when it's slow, it's pretty compelling.

http://thequietus.com/articles/08946-prometheus-ridley-scott-review <- "Then there's the penis problem."

"So disembodied has the fervour become from the brilliantly original, stylish and adorably camp 1979 flick that the gods themselves couldn't forge a spectacle gaudy enough deep in the womb of Mordor, or wherever it is nerds think babies come from, to meet these expectations. "

Didn't need to read past this to know this is not a writer whose opinions I am interested in hearing.

wtf

I didn't make it very far into Alien but nothing about that movie reads as "adorably camp" unless 70s hairdos send you into an uncontrollable tizzy

and he can git tae fuck with that Mordor taunting

also waiting til the last paragraph to say 'there is much to praise about the movie' and then do a big handwavy oh the cast the visuals etc

thing is, most of the positive reviews seem to basically be oh the cast the visuals stretched out over a number of paragraphs

well if this stinks then I may have to put Ridley in the same column as John Carpenter; love you to death thank you but your services are no longer required

taking an 8yo to this movie seems insane imho

when I saw the Avengers in the theater recently they showed the trailer for this ahead of it and it made the younger kids in front of me burst into horrified tears

Like I said, he's seen Aliens. We've watched a few R-rated flicks together. I do a pretty good job screening out stuff I'd be uncomfortable with him seeing.

But has he seen Alien?

The 2nd one I would have been much more comfortable at a younger age. Big scary screeching monsters get blown the fuck up with awesome guns.