Words and Music by Saint Etienne

okay I hear the Kylie-isms on "DJ"

wine bars are dope imo, vv chill and fun. i also like beer bars. why can't we have everything in life? fern bars were probably cool too. why was that used as a steely dan dis? idk, reviewers are amusing sometimes.

"wine bars" as a pejorative makes my teeth grind as much as "soy latte-drinking liberals."

music for soccer moms can be pretty good too.

my final verdict on this is "this album made me look to see if the first Broadcast album was on Spotify, which it is, so now I'm happy"

xpost. This is not music for soccer moms. It's music supposed to appeal to music freaks. I played this for my wife who is not a soccer mom but is certainly not a million miles from that demographic. North American, loves music but is completely disinterested in music culture, record stores, expensive headphones etc. She was quite revolted by "Over The Border" and made me take it off at track two. I noticed she was listening to the remixes yesterday though.

o i was talking more generally, like music for rednecks can be awesome also.

To be fair, that last ICP album was a worse mistake than Words and Music by Saint Etienne.

... what does that have to do with anything (also, who has paid attention to ICP as a musical act since 1999?)

You are posting on ILM and yet you ask that question?

1000 posts and counting:

Gathering Of The Juggalos 2009 Infomercial

"as a musical act"

Don't let those "some reviews" put you off, kraudive. Most of them are favourable (and that FACT one is completely OFFTM).

― daavid, Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:00 PM (3 hours ago)

It was the FACT review a little, yes. But more really threads like this, containing comments from obvious fans of later albums who said they were underwhelmed. Of course, I'll make my own decision when I have time.

Well, I've given it several listens over the past week, and there are one or two things on it that I think are okay, but I think I'm ready to give up on this album. It just isn't doing it for me. The Words just aren't very interesting - where's the old, strange poetic imagery of lines like "rain falls like Elvis tears", or "oh, the clown's no good" - and the Music is fairly characterless poptimist din. Oh well.

I need to get this earworm of my first encounter with "Systems of Romance" out of my head first.

xp see?

I think it's the last four songs that really make the album.

― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:35 AM (1 week ago)

Very much agree with this.

Synth at the end of the chorus in "DJ" is very Italo.

xxxxp hey thanks everything! glad you like it.

we've only just had our copies through and clocked that the remix before ours is by Richard 'Grid/Beyond The Wizard's Sleeve' Norris.
had no idea who 'Time And Space Machine' was!

I think the FACT reviewer was annoyed because the album has tunes on it. I realise that this is a terrible neoliberal conceit in FACT World.

What's that obvious soundtrack-y sample at the start of 25 Years? It's probably really obvs and is totally bugging me.

xpost to piscesx. Yeah that remix of Coming Through the Fair is another favorite. It scratches my "Cool Kids of Death"/"Stoned To Say The Least" itch quite nicely. I have a copy of the new Time and Space Machine album but haven't got round to checking it out yet. Basically I've been listening to this all week now.

(Sarah's voice is generally less obnoxious on the remixes as it's been treated in various ways)

^this is v otm; i <3 sarah but on the reg songs shes overwhelming

predictably i think this album is pretty great. first go-around and i was not particularly thrilled but it sounds better every time i give it a go.

Best tracks anyone? To lead me into this.

dj
tonight
popular
when i was 17
last days of disco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdIB21d-Lig

i warmed up to this album in a big way btw & it kinda works 4 summer imo

yea tonight & both remixes are in constant rotation the last few wks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrBtDsf9x3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf1Trm4ltRM

i like this album, totally surprised as nothing of theirs has clicked with me since the 90s!

this album probably skews a bit closer to their 'tiger bay'/'continental'-era sound than anything else they've done.

i know the first song is 'obvious' a bit but i really like it

i really like you!

http://wiki.luukland.net/images/3/3f/Face-Blush-120px.png

A nice Saint Etienne track here:

http://wiaiwya.bandcamp.com/track/steeplechase

so...I like this? "DJ" grabbed me by the collar, maybe because it reminds me of "Action."

ya i think i officially like this album

really gets better w/each listen imo. looking forward to the tour!

This is their best album since So Tough, which after years of fruitless exploration on my part is a relief.

i would give good humor a re-scr...re-listen. i feel like a lot of people aren't into it bc of st et expectations, it was my entry point and i think it's a pretty sweet album. more club 8 labrador swedish pop style than a st et album.

Good Humor is outstanding.

I like GH best of the post-ST records.

Tales From Turnpike House is by far my favourite since So Tough, there are no bad songs on that album. Agree that Words & Music just gets better and better.

aye.. there's a ballot coming up fairly soon, I believe.

Finistere for me - but admittedly I haven't heard the two last ones

Finally getting to see "What Have You Done Today, Mervyn Day?"

This is what I want Saint Etienne to sound like, to be like, these days.

bought a ticket 4 the boston show - excited! have nvr seem em live

http://saintetienne.greedbag.com/

The special "US" edition that's impossible to get in the UK unless you spend tons on ebay is, um, possible to get now.

Basically, the second CD is all-new (bar two) songs, about ten in total.