les miserables (the movie film; not the concert film or book. Dutch angles! Americans! Australians!)

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x-post - Oh, I didn't pay for it either. If I had I might have stayed but I'd won tickets somehow and took a friend. We stepped outside during intermission and neither of us wanted to say anything at first but were pretty relieved when we both admitted that we hated it and agreed to take off.

I like a lot of musicals too but there was something about this one that I just couldn't get into. It would prob have been better if the Frenchies were on skates or if it included a couple human sized cats.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

what was that Broadway musical from the 1980s/early 1990s where it was done entirely on roller skates?!?

Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Starlight Express or Xanadu?

I have several friends who do musicals around town and going to see them just highlights to me how terrible Les Miz really is; I mean, even lesser-known stuff like The Bubbly Black Girl Sheds Her Chameleon Skin is way way WAY better.

that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Starlight Express, that was it! didn't know that there was a Xanadu musical.

Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Xanadu is more recent, I was mostly just making a joke about "the musical on rollerskates" not being sufficient enough description

that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

she's way fucking better than Emmy Rossum was in Phantom

Who wouldn't be? That may very well be the worst movie I've ever seen.

The Starlight Express is one of the most cracked out musicals ever made.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

It is. I mean - WAHT? It's completely nuts. It's also the one I was referring to.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was mostly just making a joke about "the musical on rollerskates" not being sufficient enough description

Yeah see I didn't know there was another! Impressive.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm so excited for this movie

Mordy, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

in fairness, the Xanadu musical is only 5 years old (it was on Broadway for about 18 months)

the only reason I brought it up is because it's playing in Boston now and some of my friends are in it, tbh (I also have friends in Avenue Q)

that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Nicole - amazing!

wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

The best part of that video is at the 4:36 mark when you see the Tony audience's collective "Wtf did I just watch?" face.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Starlight Express" is probably the biggest "this music doesn't go with these costumes" show ever created

that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

I saw the trailer for this yesterday, and they had some kinda behind-the-scenesy thing afterwards -- I had no idea that they were singing live, and not lip-synching to playback. Now I *really* want to see it.

and yes, I even want to see Rusty singing, lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 17:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

He's the one I especially want to hear, because I imagine a disaster of Brosnan proportions.

controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Monday, 8 October 2012 19:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

this was pretty big in my household as a kid, i bet if were dragged to this it would still move me

it could be ok. i'm no kind of movie musical buff but hooper's suggestion that all other pre-recorded movie musicals are all false is nagl

/ me, / me. /. /. (goole), Monday, 8 October 2012 19:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

all my friends in college loved the soundtrack, my mum saw it a bunch of times but I've never seen it - I never got the chance or paid attention when it was showing

but I just kinda love Hugh Jackman singing so I have to see it

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 19:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm no kind of movie musical buff but hooper's suggestion that all other pre-recorded movie musicals are all false is nagl

It's ridiculous, and makes him look petty.

controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

ive gotten that clip a few times... whats weird is they play it with the trailers and not the commercials before the trailers... i dont care for it!!!

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

i hope crowe brings some of that russ le roq flavor to this

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah I don't get why it's up front with the trailers either

the only thing that could potentially kill it for me is Amanda Seyfried. She looks like the cleo the goldfish from pinocchio.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

i dont really like her either, though i havent contrived a good reason to hate her yet

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

goldfish is the only reason I've ever had

it's not hate so much as...she's just weird looking, lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

i have warm feelings for her bc of mean girls. also i'm really excited for this movie, even if it's bad it's going to be great.

Mordy, Monday, 8 October 2012 22:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

I am interested in Anne Hathaway itt

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

does Hooper know that they recorded Burt Reynolds & Cybill Shepherd live when they destroyed Cole Porter in At Long Last Love?

They've flipped that here with awful songs and decent singer-actor leads. Still, must to avoid.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

these songs are the opposite of awful

Mordy, Monday, 8 October 2012 22:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah I don't find the songs awful at all

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

morbs ya big grinch

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

I've only heard 20 seconds of them before I sent them back to the kitchen

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm sure there is something gained from first being exposed to them around 8 years old

Mordy, Monday, 8 October 2012 23:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah my Mum listened to the soundtrack a lot, so I know most of the songs even though I don't really know where they go in the storyline, lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 23:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

that kind of post-Sondheim epic bombast just tests my gag reflex in a hurry

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 October 2012 23:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

musicals quit being good when ginger rogers was no longer available to star in them

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 8 October 2012 23:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Bernadette Peters still around

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 October 2012 23:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

What's the over/under on people bursting out into singalong during various screenings? Gunna be pretty hard for me to not do so if I've had a few that day

the max in the high castle (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 05:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

what kingfish said. what is this movie even for if not drunken singalongs?

fiscal cliff burton (get bent), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 05:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Who is this man?
What sort of devil is he?
To have me caught in a trap
And choose to let me go free?
It was his hour at last
To put a seal on my fate
Wipe out the past
And wash me clean off the slate!
All it would take
Was a flick of his knife
Vengeance was his
And he gave me back my life!
Damned if I'll live in the debt of a thief!
Damned if I'll yield at the end of the chase.
I am the Law and the Law is not mocked
I'll spit his pity right back in his face
There is nothing on earth that we share
It is either Valjean or Javert!

fiscal cliff burton (get bent), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 05:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

The school edition cuts a considerable amount of material from the original show. It is divided into thirty scenes and, although no "critical" scenes or songs have been removed, it runs 25–30 minutes shorter than the "official" version making the total running time about 2 ½ hours.[44] A few subtle changes of vocal pitch have been made: "What Have I Done?", Valjean's Soliloquy, "Stars" by Javert, "A Little Fall of Rain" by Éponine and Marius, "Turning", and "Castle on a Cloud" lose a verse each. During "Fantine's Arrest" Bamatabois loses two verses. The song "Fantine's Death/Confrontation" is edited, and the counterpoint duel between Javert and Valjean is lost, as well as a verse by Fantine. "Dog Eats Dog" by Thénardier is heavily truncated. "Beggars at the Feast", is shortened, with Thénardier losing a verse, and the song before it, "Wedding Chorale", is excluded entirely although the rest of the wedding remains in place. Also, the drinker's introduction to "Master of the House" is cut completely.[citation needed]

After The King's Theatre, The King's School and Tara Anglican School for Girls, in Sydney, Australia, gained rights for the full production in late 2000 from Cameron Mackintosh to perform the show. Music Theatre International developed a school version, available only to productions with an entirely amateur cast aged under 19. Hundreds of schools worldwide have purchased the rights and staged performances, and it was the best-selling production for high schools in the year 2006.[citation needed]

In November 2001, Harry S Truman High School in Levittown, Pennsylvania piloted the school version under director Lou Volpe. Cameron Mackintosh attended closing night of the performance and shared how impressed he was with the adaptation. The show was met with rave reviews.

The Woodlands School, located in Mississauga, Ontario, marked the first presentation of the Les Misérables school edition in Canada.[45]

the max in the high castle (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 05:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

I mean, I'm 6'1", 250lbs, and sing baritone, so not belting out "Do I stay and do i DARRRRREEEEEE!" is gunna be REAL HARD if the filmmakers pull off a proper emotional connection

also, listening to the 1985 London original cast and dear GOD is there a shitload of rubbish synthwork for the score. Worse than any of the 80s Phantom recordings, surely.

the max in the high castle (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 06:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm listening to that RIGHT NOW.

les rallizes miserables (get bent), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 06:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

I had forgotten that Paul Rudd actually shows up in tunic and bicorne for this

the max in the high castle (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 06:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

in my hands via FedEx.

hell no, not even on mute.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 2 December 2012 04:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

I WILL WATCH IT FOR U

Mordy, Sunday, 2 December 2012 04:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

saw an endless preview for this about how much more ~meaningful~ it was when shot live

morbs otm

mookieproof, Sunday, 2 December 2012 04:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

SEND IT TO ME MORBS

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 2 December 2012 04:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

I Have seen some of the first clips online. They are not good...at all.

Witness the normally Reliable Hugh Jackman doing a William Shatner impression with the songs rhythms, and singing the usually bombastic "Who Am I?" As if it were a Jim Croce song!

Hear the quiver in Amanda Seyfriend's voice that makes her sound like a 14 year old taking her first voice lesson!

Listen to Russell Crowe channeling Officer Barbrady as he sings Confrontation!

It frustrates me to hear so much of this speech-sung as if this was a Rex Harrison show. The actors keep trying to justify these as acting choices made in the moment because they're "feeling the song". I read it as "MASKING VOCAL INADEQUACIES!"

At the End of the Day is Good, though.

http://broadwayworld.com/videoplay.php?colid=433130

NINO CARTER, Sunday, 2 December 2012 05:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

i dig the heck outta 'do you hear the people sing' thats some rousing ass shit. a lot of the gooey numbers were dull to me, but maybe it would've helped to have heard some of them before

turds (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 13 January 2013 02:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

"I Dreamed a Dream" the standout number at the time, but the thing that's stuck in my head is the "daa daaa daaaa daa daaa daaa daaaa-ah" motif that everyone sings a thousand times, I don't even remember any of the words they sang just dahha hdhdhh dhdhdhdhhdhdh

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Sunday, 13 January 2013 02:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

idk if all that's for me, but if the whole 'la resistance' sequence from SP The Movie isn't a direct & obvious LM ref then i dunno what. If every musical before 1985 (if there even were any? Idk, there prob was, prob books and movies and music too, tho it seems strange to think it.) has a french guy leading a resistance through song while threading the motifs of most of the previous songs together i wouldn't know, I'm only 32, we poor creatures can't be expected to do anything but grasp for the familiar in the comforting patterns of our limited youthly experience and hope for the kindness of our betters and elders to guide us.

let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 January 2013 02:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

idk if all that's for me, but if the whole 'la resistance' sequence from SP The Movie isn't a direct & obvious LM ref then i dunno what

haha yes that is exactly what that us

The whole idea of an ensemble number that weaves together a ton of different themes from the show didn't start with Les Miz though; there's a huge number in West Side Story that serves the same function and interpolates "Tonight" with a new theme that pushes forward some narrative strands right before the rumble.

DJP, Sunday, 13 January 2013 05:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

is this the point in the thread where I can rant and rave about how much I hate the film of West Side Story

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Sunday, 13 January 2013 05:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

because I can go on about that for some time

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Sunday, 13 January 2013 05:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

I thought I loved the movie until I saw it in high school; it really can't compare to the stage show.

DJP, Sunday, 13 January 2013 05:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

The movie is fine except for that it ruins all the slow songs by taking them at thrice the speed. Literally the worst version of "Somewhere" ever.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Sunday, 13 January 2013 07:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

I also think it works better to switch "Cool" and "Krupke."

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Sunday, 13 January 2013 07:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

don't think i've seen the movie, but i saw the most recent National tour twice and loved it

NINO CARTER, Sunday, 13 January 2013 10:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

djp- don't you start

let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 January 2013 11:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

The movie is fine except for that it ruins all the slow songs by taking them at thrice the speed. Literally the worst version of "Somewhere" ever.

― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Saturday, January 12, 2013 11:47 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Also turns that song into a sex duet instead of sung by an anonymous girl during the Nightmare

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Sunday, 13 January 2013 16:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

In fairness (now that I've seen it), the thing with Thenardier's accent appears to be that it's HBC-matching English at base, he just throws on a French accent when playing the innkeeper to his guests - and a dreadful Irish one for the con before the mugging.

The restaging of Mme Thenardier's coda to Master of the House, as one more con, is kind of interesting, though I like the vanilla interpretation that they're bound together in hate.

The reworking of Beggars at the Dance blows though, that is one of the classic "No, fuck you and your morals, we win" statements, and taking it away cheapens the last scene.

There was some other stuff in there, but I'm all about the Thenardiers.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 13 January 2013 23:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also have we not had this yet?

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 14 January 2013 02:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also of course "I Dreamed a Dream" benefits from not being all "is this a conversation, are we talking over each other, are we switching from talking to singing and back", and is just sit yourself down sonny, I'm going to Sing you a Song.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 14 January 2013 16:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

Tom Hooper hates people's eyes because he makes shit that looks fucking terrible and he knows nothing about anything.

"I Dreamed a Dream" was amazing though. Worth the price of admission, I'd say.

Denby such a hack I wish I liked this more.

Gukbe, Friday, 18 January 2013 06:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Just watched this and fuck it, I goddamn loved it. Vocal wise, Hathaway is fucking great, all three of the revolutionary hero dudes are as well, both kid actors obv total pros, Amanda seyfried (who outside of mean girls I fucking hate) was shockingly good, Russell Crowe way better than he is getting credit for. Big surprise is that Hugh Jackman pretty much shits the bed throughout - bad constant vibrato, mushy nowhere delivery. As a movie? Eh it's shiny in all the right parts. Master of the house is half-assed at best.

AMERICA IS ABOUT RIESLING (jjjusten), Thursday, 16 May 2013 05:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

As much as I dug Hathaway, idg the supporting actress nod at all, it's kind of "hi I'm here, hi I am downtrodden, lemme sing like a badass, whoops I'm dead". Give her a Grammy or some shit, Oscar gtfo. And i like her, but wtf.

AMERICA IS ABOUT RIESLING (jjjusten), Thursday, 16 May 2013 05:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

How do you feel about the show in general? I've stayed away because I really really hate the show

AMERICA IS ABOUT RESSLING (DJP), Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

Thought jackman did a better than passable job tbh, with notable winces. Hathaway got oscar for 'dreamed a dream' and if you can show me a more deserving 3 mins from a supporting actress last year then i'm listening

i gave ten pounds and all i got was a lousy * (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

If 'delivery' is what Russell Crowe brought then I am not at home, they can ring the doorbell all they want.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

It was def an off year for that category, but certainly Ann Dowd and Jennifer Ehle had more than just 3 deserving minutes.

Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah but had they 3 mins like that?

Andrew otm re foghorn crowe

i gave ten pounds and all i got was a lousy * (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Those 3 minutes were not all that.

Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

In fact* they were.

*opinion

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

How do you feel about the show in general? I've stayed away because I really really hate the show

― AMERICA IS ABOUT RESSLING (DJP), Thursday, May 16, 2013 1:09 PM (2 hours ago)

heh until last night i had never seen it. first 15-20 minutes border on awful imo (meaning the actual songs, not the movie in specific), but it starts to work after that.

AMERICA IS ABOUT RIESLING (jjjusten), Thursday, 16 May 2013 15:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

hmm

it is probably my most despised commonly-enjoyed musical (main competition is "Miss Saigon")

AMERICA IS ABOUT RESSLING (DJP), Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh miss saigon suuuuuuuucks

AMERICA IS ABOUT RIESLING (jjjusten), Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

probably the only thing that ever strained my friendship with Kyl3 was his insistence on playing that soundtrack over and over during senior year whenever I was at his house and how he would frequently accost me with "THE HEAT IS ON IN SAIGON/THE GIRLS ARE HOTTER THAN HELL"

I just thank God we were in different cities by the time Rent came around

AMERICA IS ABOUT RESSLING (DJP), Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

I finally saw this!

I've never seen Les Miz before, but these are my thoughts, such as they are:

- I don't think I liked the talking-style singing? It bothered me that the music was way down in the mix, I wanted the words + music to be more harmonious together like a regular musical, just having them sing-talk kinda took away the majesty of some of those songs. once I got into the movie I realized I wanted them to be just straight-up songs. I understand what they were going for, and it worked to an extent but it just felt like the songs, with a few exceptions, were always sort of half-sung.

- I dreamed a dream, Eponine's solo song, and the ending made me BAWL so I think despite my reservations about the way the story was delivered, it still had enough power to knock me over anyway.

- Jackman was a little disappointing but I'm wondering if it's because he's done both - broadway and film acting - that making him blend both together diluted his, idk, superpowers somehow. Because I know if he could just stand and belt it, he would have. He was still pretty good, but it felt like he was at about 50% power from magnetic-stage-presence-mode.

- Rusty's a good actor, he at least had me buy the character. His singing is not great but I knew that going in. I thought he did well with it, for what he brought to the table.

Now I'm going to go dig up a cast recording or something from an old staged version so I can get some serious SONG action.

the pen is mightier than the penisword (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 29 July 2013 04:04 (11 months ago) Permalink

also just in general, storywise, lyrics etc...impressive bit of work, that. I'm a fan.

the pen is mightier than the penisword (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 29 July 2013 04:05 (11 months ago) Permalink


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