predictions! this will be competent but not that interesting. gatsby will be a mess.
― goole, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 14:00 (11 months ago) Permalink
They really missed an opportunity to cast Jason Alexander as Thénardier, he has a musical theater background and I can only think of that Seinfeld episode when I hear Master of the House anyway.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 14:23 (11 months ago) Permalink
I guess it was SB Cohen's dream to work with the director of The King's Speech.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 15:28 (11 months ago) Permalink
basically "yay Anne, boo Hugh" is how I break this down to an extent
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, May 30, 2012 9:44 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark
people are already bitching about her vers of dreamed a dream
― Hungry4Ass, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:16 (11 months ago) Permalink
here it is embedded
― Hungry4Ass, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:18 (11 months ago) Permalink
she's way fucking better than Emmy Rossum was in Phantom
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:19 (11 months ago) Permalink
I can only think of that Seinfeld episode when I hear Master of the House anyway.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, May 30, 2012 10:23 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
YES!!
I HATE LM. I saw it on Broadway and went home during intermission. You couldn't pay me to see this.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:20 (11 months ago) Permalink
all the singing in this movie is live apparently
― Hungry4Ass, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:25 (11 months ago) Permalink
yeah I feel the same, only I never actually paid to see it (in fact, I think I've only ever seen it in its entirety once, and that was because we stumbled across http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Mis%C3%A9rables:_25th_Anniversary_Concert on TV which had Nick Jonas in it and I couldn't fucking believe I was watching Les Miz starring Nick Jonas)
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:26 (11 months ago) Permalink
same here re never wanting to see the musical. a shame, i liked the book a lot.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:28 (11 months ago) Permalink
x-post - Oh, I didn't pay for it either. If I had I might have stayed but I'd won tickets somehow and took a friend. We stepped outside during intermission and neither of us wanted to say anything at first but were pretty relieved when we both admitted that we hated it and agreed to take off.
I like a lot of musicals too but there was something about this one that I just couldn't get into. It would prob have been better if the Frenchies were on skates or if it included a couple human sized cats.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:30 (11 months ago) Permalink
what was that Broadway musical from the 1980s/early 1990s where it was done entirely on roller skates?!?
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:38 (11 months ago) Permalink
Starlight Express or Xanadu?
I have several friends who do musicals around town and going to see them just highlights to me how terrible Les Miz really is; I mean, even lesser-known stuff like The Bubbly Black Girl Sheds Her Chameleon Skin is way way WAY better.
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:40 (11 months ago) Permalink
Starlight Express, that was it! didn't know that there was a Xanadu musical.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:42 (11 months ago) Permalink
Xanadu is more recent, I was mostly just making a joke about "the musical on rollerskates" not being sufficient enough description
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:44 (11 months ago) Permalink
Who wouldn't be? That may very well be the worst movie I've ever seen.
The Starlight Express is one of the most cracked out musicals ever made.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:23 (11 months ago) Permalink
It is. I mean - WAHT? It's completely nuts. It's also the one I was referring to.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:26 (11 months ago) Permalink
I was mostly just making a joke about "the musical on rollerskates" not being sufficient enough description
Yeah see I didn't know there was another! Impressive.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:27 (11 months ago) Permalink
i'm so excited for this movie
― Mordy, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:27 (11 months ago) Permalink
in fairness, the Xanadu musical is only 5 years old (it was on Broadway for about 18 months)
the only reason I brought it up is because it's playing in Boston now and some of my friends are in it, tbh (I also have friends in Avenue Q)
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:29 (11 months ago) Permalink
Nicole - amazing!
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:30 (11 months ago) Permalink
The best part of that video is at the 4:36 mark when you see the Tony audience's collective "Wtf did I just watch?" face.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:33 (11 months ago) Permalink
"Starlight Express" is probably the biggest "this music doesn't go with these costumes" show ever created
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:41 (11 months ago) Permalink
I saw the trailer for this yesterday, and they had some kinda behind-the-scenesy thing afterwards -- I had no idea that they were singing live, and not lip-synching to playback. Now I *really* want to see it.
and yes, I even want to see Rusty singing, lol
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 17:08 (7 months ago) Permalink
He's the one I especially want to hear, because I imagine a disaster of Brosnan proportions.
― controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Monday, 8 October 2012 19:14 (7 months ago) Permalink
this was pretty big in my household as a kid, i bet if were dragged to this it would still move me
it could be ok. i'm no kind of movie musical buff but hooper's suggestion that all other pre-recorded movie musicals are all false is nagl
― / me, / me. /. /. (goole), Monday, 8 October 2012 19:20 (7 months ago) Permalink
all my friends in college loved the soundtrack, my mum saw it a bunch of times but I've never seen it - I never got the chance or paid attention when it was showing
but I just kinda love Hugh Jackman singing so I have to see it
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 19:59 (7 months ago) Permalink
i'm no kind of movie musical buff but hooper's suggestion that all other pre-recorded movie musicals are all false is nagl
It's ridiculous, and makes him look petty.
― controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:07 (7 months ago) Permalink
ive gotten that clip a few times... whats weird is they play it with the trailers and not the commercials before the trailers... i dont care for it!!!
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:25 (7 months ago) Permalink
i hope crowe brings some of that russ le roq flavor to this
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:26 (7 months ago) Permalink
yeah I don't get why it's up front with the trailers either
the only thing that could potentially kill it for me is Amanda Seyfried. She looks like the cleo the goldfish from pinocchio.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:28 (7 months ago) Permalink
lol
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:29 (7 months ago) Permalink
i dont really like her either, though i havent contrived a good reason to hate her yet
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:30 (7 months ago) Permalink
goldfish is the only reason I've ever had
it's not hate so much as...she's just weird looking, lol
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:30 (7 months ago) Permalink
i have warm feelings for her bc of mean girls. also i'm really excited for this movie, even if it's bad it's going to be great.
― Mordy, Monday, 8 October 2012 22:39 (7 months ago) Permalink
I am interested in Anne Hathaway itt
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:40 (7 months ago) Permalink
does Hooper know that they recorded Burt Reynolds & Cybill Shepherd live when they destroyed Cole Porter in At Long Last Love?
They've flipped that here with awful songs and decent singer-actor leads. Still, must to avoid.
― cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:56 (7 months ago) Permalink
these songs are the opposite of awful
― Mordy, Monday, 8 October 2012 22:58 (7 months ago) Permalink
yeah I don't find the songs awful at all
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:59 (7 months ago) Permalink
morbs ya big grinch
I've only heard 20 seconds of them before I sent them back to the kitchen
― cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:59 (7 months ago) Permalink
i'm sure there is something gained from first being exposed to them around 8 years old
― Mordy, Monday, 8 October 2012 23:00 (7 months ago) Permalink
yeah my Mum listened to the soundtrack a lot, so I know most of the songs even though I don't really know where they go in the storyline, lol
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 23:04 (7 months ago) Permalink
that kind of post-Sondheim epic bombast just tests my gag reflex in a hurry
― cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 October 2012 23:10 (7 months ago) Permalink
musicals quit being good when ginger rogers was no longer available to star in them
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 8 October 2012 23:12 (7 months ago) Permalink
Bernadette Peters still around
― cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 October 2012 23:15 (7 months ago) Permalink
What's the over/under on people bursting out into singalong during various screenings? Gunna be pretty hard for me to not do so if I've had a few that day
― the max in the high castle (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 05:30 (6 months ago) Permalink
what kingfish said. what is this movie even for if not drunken singalongs?
― fiscal cliff burton (get bent), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 05:34 (6 months ago) Permalink
And none of them are a) the scientifically-proven best musical of all time, brought to you now in singovision b) the musical in the thread title.
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 12 January 2013 15:44 (4 months ago) Permalink
Wait, you liked it but you hate the music? Not a dig, just wondering how you can enjoy a completely sung-thru musical and hate all of teh songs!
― NINO CARTER, Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:17 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah there were a couple other good ones i was exaggerating a little
― fiscal cliff paul (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 January 2013 16:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
No I know I was talking about the sweeping cultural indictments that I've read elsewhere (some of which are linked to from this thread)
― friday goodness thank it's (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 12 January 2013 16:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
That said I didn't pay any attention to any drubbing that Schumacher's Phantom received so nm
― friday goodness thank it's (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 12 January 2013 16:16 (4 months ago) Permalink
Speaking as someone who runs in musical theater circles, truuuuuuuuuuuust me, other musicals get eviscerated much, much worse than this incarnation of Les Mis. Theater aficianados can be a tough crowd to win over (even those favorites like Rent and such win over only a certain, youthful faction of the community).
― NINO CARTER, Saturday, 12 January 2013 20:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
i never realised how much south park the movie ripped on this
― let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Saturday, 12 January 2013 23:50 (4 months ago) Permalink
Ah so, Nino, I don't run in musical theatre circles I just end up seeing these 1975-present megathings with sentimental family members and get soooo frustrated with 95% of them.
Re: South Park. Les Mis features so many cliches of the genre that any send-up of megamusicals is gonna appear to be a direct parody. Kind of like the way people thought Mars Attacks was a parody of specifically Independence Day
― friday goodness thank it's (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 13 January 2013 00:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
..well that's just "the world didn't exist before 1985."
(see also "ILX action film poll")
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 13 January 2013 01:07 (4 months ago) Permalink
"goddamn kids"
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 January 2013 01:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
no, ignoramii
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 13 January 2013 01:14 (4 months ago) Permalink
nice hypercorrection there morbs
― autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Sunday, 13 January 2013 01:39 (4 months ago) Permalink
vigilance is my watchword!
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 13 January 2013 02:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
i dig the heck outta 'do you hear the people sing' thats some rousing ass shit. a lot of the gooey numbers were dull to me, but maybe it would've helped to have heard some of them before
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 13 January 2013 02:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
"I Dreamed a Dream" the standout number at the time, but the thing that's stuck in my head is the "daa daaa daaaa daa daaa daaa daaaa-ah" motif that everyone sings a thousand times, I don't even remember any of the words they sang just dahha hdhdhh dhdhdhdhhdhdh
― autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Sunday, 13 January 2013 02:29 (4 months ago) Permalink
idk if all that's for me, but if the whole 'la resistance' sequence from SP The Movie isn't a direct & obvious LM ref then i dunno what. If every musical before 1985 (if there even were any? Idk, there prob was, prob books and movies and music too, tho it seems strange to think it.) has a french guy leading a resistance through song while threading the motifs of most of the previous songs together i wouldn't know, I'm only 32, we poor creatures can't be expected to do anything but grasp for the familiar in the comforting patterns of our limited youthly experience and hope for the kindness of our betters and elders to guide us.
― let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 January 2013 02:59 (4 months ago) Permalink
idk if all that's for me, but if the whole 'la resistance' sequence from SP The Movie isn't a direct & obvious LM ref then i dunno what
haha yes that is exactly what that us
The whole idea of an ensemble number that weaves together a ton of different themes from the show didn't start with Les Miz though; there's a huge number in West Side Story that serves the same function and interpolates "Tonight" with a new theme that pushes forward some narrative strands right before the rumble.
― DJP, Sunday, 13 January 2013 05:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
is this the point in the thread where I can rant and rave about how much I hate the film of West Side Story
― autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Sunday, 13 January 2013 05:09 (4 months ago) Permalink
because I can go on about that for some time
I thought I loved the movie until I saw it in high school; it really can't compare to the stage show.
― DJP, Sunday, 13 January 2013 05:14 (4 months ago) Permalink
The movie is fine except for that it ruins all the slow songs by taking them at thrice the speed. Literally the worst version of "Somewhere" ever.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Sunday, 13 January 2013 07:47 (4 months ago) Permalink
I also think it works better to switch "Cool" and "Krupke."
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Sunday, 13 January 2013 07:48 (4 months ago) Permalink
don't think i've seen the movie, but i saw the most recent National tour twice and loved it
― NINO CARTER, Sunday, 13 January 2013 10:38 (4 months ago) Permalink
djp- don't you start
― let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 January 2013 11:46 (4 months ago) Permalink
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Saturday, January 12, 2013 11:47 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Also turns that song into a sex duet instead of sung by an anonymous girl during the Nightmare
― autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Sunday, 13 January 2013 16:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
In fairness (now that I've seen it), the thing with Thenardier's accent appears to be that it's HBC-matching English at base, he just throws on a French accent when playing the innkeeper to his guests - and a dreadful Irish one for the con before the mugging.
The restaging of Mme Thenardier's coda to Master of the House, as one more con, is kind of interesting, though I like the vanilla interpretation that they're bound together in hate.
The reworking of Beggars at the Dance blows though, that is one of the classic "No, fuck you and your morals, we win" statements, and taking it away cheapens the last scene.
There was some other stuff in there, but I'm all about the Thenardiers.
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 13 January 2013 23:49 (4 months ago) Permalink
Also have we not had this yet?
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 14 January 2013 02:16 (4 months ago) Permalink
Also of course "I Dreamed a Dream" benefits from not being all "is this a conversation, are we talking over each other, are we switching from talking to singing and back", and is just sit yourself down sonny, I'm going to Sing you a Song.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 14 January 2013 16:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
Tom Hooper hates people's eyes because he makes shit that looks fucking terrible and he knows nothing about anything.
"I Dreamed a Dream" was amazing though. Worth the price of admission, I'd say.
Denby such a hack I wish I liked this more.
― Gukbe, Friday, 18 January 2013 06:37 (4 months ago) Permalink
Just watched this and fuck it, I goddamn loved it. Vocal wise, Hathaway is fucking great, all three of the revolutionary hero dudes are as well, both kid actors obv total pros, Amanda seyfried (who outside of mean girls I fucking hate) was shockingly good, Russell Crowe way better than he is getting credit for. Big surprise is that Hugh Jackman pretty much shits the bed throughout - bad constant vibrato, mushy nowhere delivery. As a movie? Eh it's shiny in all the right parts. Master of the house is half-assed at best.
― AMERICA IS ABOUT RIESLING (jjjusten), Thursday, 16 May 2013 05:31 (1 week ago) Permalink
As much as I dug Hathaway, idg the supporting actress nod at all, it's kind of "hi I'm here, hi I am downtrodden, lemme sing like a badass, whoops I'm dead". Give her a Grammy or some shit, Oscar gtfo. And i like her, but wtf.
― AMERICA IS ABOUT RIESLING (jjjusten), Thursday, 16 May 2013 05:35 (1 week ago) Permalink
How do you feel about the show in general? I've stayed away because I really really hate the show
― AMERICA IS ABOUT RESSLING (DJP), Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:09 (1 week ago) Permalink
Thought jackman did a better than passable job tbh, with notable winces. Hathaway got oscar for 'dreamed a dream' and if you can show me a more deserving 3 mins from a supporting actress last year then i'm listening
― i gave ten pounds and all i got was a lousy * (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:12 (1 week ago) Permalink
If 'delivery' is what Russell Crowe brought then I am not at home, they can ring the doorbell all they want.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:21 (1 week ago) Permalink
It was def an off year for that category, but certainly Ann Dowd and Jennifer Ehle had more than just 3 deserving minutes.
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:22 (1 week ago) Permalink
Yeah but had they 3 mins like that?
Andrew otm re foghorn crowe
― i gave ten pounds and all i got was a lousy * (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:29 (1 week ago) Permalink
Those 3 minutes were not all that.
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:32 (1 week ago) Permalink
In fact* they were.
*opinion
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:59 (1 week ago) Permalink
How do you feel about the show in general? I've stayed away because I really really hate the show― AMERICA IS ABOUT RESSLING (DJP), Thursday, May 16, 2013 1:09 PM (2 hours ago)
― AMERICA IS ABOUT RESSLING (DJP), Thursday, May 16, 2013 1:09 PM (2 hours ago)
heh until last night i had never seen it. first 15-20 minutes border on awful imo (meaning the actual songs, not the movie in specific), but it starts to work after that.
― AMERICA IS ABOUT RIESLING (jjjusten), Thursday, 16 May 2013 15:54 (1 week ago) Permalink
hmm
it is probably my most despised commonly-enjoyed musical (main competition is "Miss Saigon")
― AMERICA IS ABOUT RESSLING (DJP), Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:05 (1 week ago) Permalink
oh miss saigon suuuuuuuucks
― AMERICA IS ABOUT RIESLING (jjjusten), Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:10 (1 week ago) Permalink
probably the only thing that ever strained my friendship with Kyl3 was his insistence on playing that soundtrack over and over during senior year whenever I was at his house and how he would frequently accost me with "THE HEAT IS ON IN SAIGON/THE GIRLS ARE HOTTER THAN HELL"
I just thank God we were in different cities by the time Rent came around
― AMERICA IS ABOUT RESSLING (DJP), Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:18 (1 week ago) Permalink