yeah Geraldine Fibbers remain just a major band to me, the album before Nels joined is imo maybe the best rock record of the '90s. Initiate is great but also a double disc that came out during a really prolific period of Nels Cline output, so i prob haven't paid it enough attention.
― some dude, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 00:43 (11 months ago) Permalink
yeah Geraldine Fibbers remain just a major band to me, the album before Nels joined is imo maybe the best rock record of the '90s.
what are the second through one-hundredth best?
― rock the swagon and g.o.a.t. it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 01:11 (11 months ago) Permalink
ps: i'm just fuckin w/ u cause of capn lorax in that other thread. do not take that zing to heart.
― rock the swagon and g.o.a.t. it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 01:12 (11 months ago) Permalink
[quote=Actually my favourite guy who would have been a very cool inclusion on the list is Michio Kurihara.]good to see someone beat me to mentioning him
― nohighs, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 01:33 (11 months ago) Permalink
yeah I woulda swapped a couple of these entries out for Kurihara and Hagerty
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 02:11 (11 months ago) Permalink
and I ended up being the only one who voted for Andy Gill. went for him, because his probably influenced mine the most of all these people listed
― V79, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 14:46 (11 months ago) Permalink
real talk whiney have you heard Lost Somewhere Between The Earth And My Home? incredible album, you should check it out sometime.
― some dude, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 15:14 (11 months ago) Permalink
great album, but I like <i>Butch</i> better
― rock the swagon and g.o.a.t. it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 15:31 (11 months ago) Permalink
yeah the fibbers were pretty good -- better live than on record imo, at least the times I saw them. that scarnella record that cline and bozulich did was pretty damn good too.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 15:33 (11 months ago) Permalink
cline's best stuff was with Watt imo
― rock the swagon and g.o.a.t. it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 15:34 (11 months ago) Permalink
yeah, or at least def his best sideman-to-a-vocalist work
― some dude, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 15:35 (11 months ago) Permalink
Cline's instrumental compositional/improvisational work is so much more significant to me than his rock guitar playing (and I do really like his lead guitar playing with Wilco and Lee Ranaldo).
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 15:44 (11 months ago) Permalink
(especially when considering as a great guitarist)
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 17:31 (11 months ago) Permalink
I voted Ginn.
Have always been intrigued by his lack of prowess and totally rubbish tone. He was great.He seemed to just jam along in any key, in a way that made me think he didn't even know what key he was in and certainly his scales were unique.
Ever since I heard My War back when it was released, that twat influenced my guitar playing. What he was doing sounded so random, angry and sludgy,.It was always the easy way out and I only played on stage 7 times and my career was over.
He still deserves my vote.
Now, Greg, let somebody with a clue remaster them classic SST albums
― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 19:13 (11 months ago) Permalink
on greg ginn:
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 19:22 (11 months ago) Permalink
Have always been intrigued by his lack of prowess and totally rubbish tone. He was great.
I think I'm putting my finger on why I never liked Black Flag that much, one or two songs aside, and Ginn especially. Maybe even why I love some classic Amerindie and am left totally cold by some.
no, i just mean he was part of a scene/era in which chops were not a must
I've actually been thinking about this. I guess it depends what you consider to be his scene/era. I really like several bands on Ginn's own label - Sonic Youth, Husker Du, fIREHOSE, Meat Puppets - all of whom seemed to place some value on musicianship. I'd probably say that in some cases they were better musicians, at least as instrumentalists, than many mainstream rock bands of that time. I realize that most of these were 'indie rock' and not 'hardcore' bands (at least as far as the records I listen to go). But, while I get that chops were not a must, even some other hardcore bands seemed to have placed a greater emphasis on tightness, e.g. Minor Threat, whom I also dislike but for different reasons.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 00:22 (11 months ago) Permalink
Thinking about why I don't like something often tends to be a first step in starting to appreciate it. I used to hate Pavement for similar reasons.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 00:31 (11 months ago) Permalink
figured he must have been a big influence on kerry king
Can see this btw (and I love Reign in Blood obv).
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 15:36 (11 months ago) Permalink
WTF?! How could this list omit Kevin Okanyra?!
― this guy's a gangsta? his real name's mittens. (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 15:43 (11 months ago) Permalink
(j/k I made up that name)
loved the album he did with hans bennink and joe mcphee
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 15:52 (11 months ago) Permalink
imo he was kind of an overrated gimmick player, it's not like the 6th and 7th fingers on his left hand really contributed to his fretwork at all
― some dude, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 15:54 (11 months ago) Permalink
wasn't he uncredited on some of those denny vertigo peel sessions?
― goole, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 15:54 (11 months ago) Permalink
― some dude, Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:54 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
particularly on those records where he plays a stringless.
Incidentally, one of those was enough.
― this guy's a gangsta? his real name's mittens. (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 16:00 (11 months ago) Permalink
i disagree, i'd put him in the top five stringless baritone guitar players ever
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 16:01 (11 months ago) Permalink
His pit band work on the touring cast recording of CATS is kind of an overlooked gem though
― this guy's a gangsta? his real name's mittens. (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 16:02 (11 months ago) Permalink
little known fact: he invented that pick-holder that you stick onto your guitar. His nickname was "butterhand" for a reason.
― this guy's a gangsta? his real name's mittens. (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 16:03 (11 months ago) Permalink
okanyra shreds
― max, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 16:10 (11 months ago) Permalink