the most important election of your lifetime: 2012 american general election thread

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/federal-budget-tax-policy-austerity-mitt-romney-barack-obama-cbo-spending-cuts.php?ref=fpa

more reasons to be disallusioned

What was the allusion?

good point

http://nymag.com/print/?/news/features/barack-obama-2012-6/index1.html

Huge insider quoting article on the Obama campaign and how they will go negative but worry that they will have less money than the super pac and Wall Streeters supporting Romney

A prominent private-equity player in Gotham who supports Obama agrees with all of that but adds another insight. �Among rich Republicans, the view of Obama is that he’s the Devil,� this person says. �But on the Democratic side, certainly on Wall Street, there’s no visceral reaction against Romney. So if I give $10 million, I’m out the $10 million, and I’m gonna pay more in taxes if Obama wins. And I’m doing it against somebody who�I may not agree with his social views, but I don’t think he’s a bad person. And I’m not really into negative advertising, which is what a super-PAC would do � Then there’s the fact nobody on Wall Street thinks Obama gives a sh-- about them. They think his attitude is, �If I lose Wall Street, it’s not the end of the world.’ And they’re right.�

Whatever the causes, the consequences for Obama may prove dire. Burton reckons that, in the end, the cumulative spending on the Democratic side will be about $1 billion, compared with maybe $1.6 billion on the Republican side. And while the latter may be exaggerated for effect�other savvy Democrats put the GOP figure at more like $1.3 billion�there’s little doubt in either partisan camp that we are about to witness the improbable development of an incumbent president’s being financially overmatched.

It concerns me gravely,� Plouffe tells me. �From a political standpoint, I’m almost as worried about that as I am about the question of what the economy’s gonna do over the next three or four months.

Come back to the Five and Dime, Newt:

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/mitt-romney-abc-washington-post-poll-favorability-barack-obama.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

Jesus Christ. $2.3 billion.

that's a lot of free speech

no Buffett Tax or Bush tax cut repeals regardless of who's in the Oval Office, methinks.

LOL Z S

no Buffett Tax or Bush tax cut repeals regardless of who's in the Oval Office, methinks.

this is more down to congress than anything else tho

Yep. But Congressional Dems will not likely be strong enough.

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Throughout the primaries, Romney routinely drew low marks from voters. That was particularly true among women, as Republicans drew criticism for trying to curtail coverage for contraception. But the survey shows Romney has rebounded with women. Forty percent view him favorably, up from 27 percent a month ago.

Polls. I don't get you American people (in poll cited by tpm).

yeah ignore "likability" polls. I'm very likable but I suck.

poll doesn't reflect anything more than Romney securing the nomination/GOP voters not having any other options

Someone should tell Plouffe that Shakey has guaranteed re-election, so no biggie

For those of you stuck in a cave for the next several months, here is the precis:

Romney's message: Obama is Satan. I am a super hero from whose anus sunlight floods.

Obama's message: Romney is a hearltess, soulless baby-eater. I am the Way and the Light.

In general, I agree that likeability won't move elections much--it's a threshold thing, and as long as you clear the "s/he'll do" bar, you're electable. But for a long time, Romney was falling well short of that bar. With so much economic data seemingly frozen in place in the iffy grey area, I assumed one of Obama's clear advantages in November would be that most voters like him, and most clearly don't like Romney. So I'm not suggesting this poll means that people are suddenly in love with Romney--really, who could love Romney except Mrs. Romney?--just that he's starting to clear the "he'll do" threshold. And I do think that matters in terms of Obama's chances. Whenever you'd write something like "this guy is so doomed," Shakey Mo, it was often after Romney had said something stupid. Just an opinion, but I think that between "that guy says some stupid thing" and "I have a visceral dislike for that guy," the latter is far more damaging.

(That last post might be enough to get iatee back on here: following an opening "Eh," he can patiently explain how I'm completely wrong.)

(has anybody tried bumping the sburbs thread?)

lol

wait where did iatee go?

Out to the country, got a big farm. lots of fresh air.

oh, figures.

Lots of peaches, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvcohzJvviQ

Bad news is he has to commute 40 miles each way to his job in the city.

He could no longer afford to live in his neighborhood.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/26/1095014/-Bain-Capital-and-Mitt-Romney-s-Best-Kept-Secret-Clear-Channel-Radio

"Corporations are people"

Barack, we hardly knew ye.

Am I just not remembering, or were monthly jobs reports as big a deal 20 years ago? I followed Bush/Clinton pretty closely, and while I remember attention being paid to the general unemployment rate and GDP numbers, I don't recall such life-or-death anticipation of every jobs report.

well we're in a pretty big financial hole, more than twenty years ago

Attempted augury of voters's November mood swings, five months in advance, so investors can buy the correct product in the presidential market?

Well timed.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_SPYL8UC1UCY/S8d5EVWoyDI/AAAAAAAACIo/1Ff7p4ZgThE/s1600/The+Out+of+Towners+%281970%29.jpg

Guessing I'm probably the worst-dressed person ever to receive an e-mail from Anna Wintour.

obv you've never read The Zizek-Wintour Letters

haha, Bubba Eruption over the weekend, saying Mitt's corporate record was "sterling." Now backtracking.

Bill Clinton, gliding through a privileged life, doing pretty much as he pleases, defended Mitt Romney's business past. Said that Romney was qualified to be president. This from a senior Obama supporter.

I laughed when I read that. I can't stand Clinton, but that made my day. I'd shake whatever hand he doesn't jerk off with.

http://dennisperrin.blogspot.com/2012/06/ride-my-see-saw.html

why would that player use either of his own hands to jerk off with?

Lookin' old and thin since he gave up barbecue, not pullin' what he usta

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/06/05/michael-tomasky-is-barack-obama-is-too-weak-to-win-in-november.html

frustration with the cool one

this is going around but it won't last long. original still up at Romney's site for now though & lol all day:

As president, Mitt will work to expand and enhance access and opportunities for Americans to hunt, shoot, and protect their families, homes and property, and he will fight the battle on all fronts to protect and promote the Second Amendment.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Proud Amercian Mitt Romney Invites Voters to take a ‘Sneak-Peak’ at Pathological Spelling Problem

access and opportunities for Americans to hunt and shoot their families.

the 2nd amendment guarantees my right to hunt my property and family, fuck you liberals

aaaahahahaha this is really getting me bad

curmudgeon, I think the idea that Obama would send up a long series of jobs/stimulation bills to die in Congress, so he could run against a do-nothing Congress probably got killed by the democrats in Congress. They would see that startegy in a very different light, when they went home and faced ads that said something like:

(solemn deep voice) In the past year alone, Joe Blow voted for spending bills that, if they had passed, would have cost fifty gazillion dollars and ballooned the deficit like a bullfrog on helium. This time, vote for our smiling man with a nice suit and haircut, not that drunken sailor who'll piss away your children's future.

more traditional than birth control

xp

oh shut up Bubba

he's returned to his Screaming Lobster of Hope days.

Mr. Johnson, it happened again: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/06/romney-campaign-misspelled-reagan.html

So far, the Romney campaign cannot spell "peek," "America" or "Reagan."

Clinton's comments on Romney: BS, despicable

The tax cut thing: totally overblown, mostly just pragmatic.