2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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its called a strawman

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

strawwoman?

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

had i been born an intellectual cripple who could only respond to sarcasm, condescension, and petty chauvanism, i am pretty sure i, too, would love sarah palin

you'd look cooler if you wore a frigidaire (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

note to conservative neofeminists: hillary clinton, whatever else she may be, is not a fucking crybaby

"goole" (goole), Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Define "crybaby."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link

crocodile crybaby?

you'd look cooler if you wore a frigidaire (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link

ha yes i'm assuming that was basically ginned up, left wing sexist that i am

"goole" (goole), Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I dunno about that, she definitely wanted to "take her ball and go home" so to speak - just look at all the crap her former advisers and fundraisers have stirred up

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link

crocodile cry-straw-lady

TOMBOT, Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link

That Nordlinger guy has made it just about impossible for me to read the Corner anymore. Dude's way off his meds.

Radiant Flowering Crab (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link

"Why do you hate Palin so much?

"She's an underqualified, manipulative, vindictive power-monger with severe issues about telling the truth."

"But she's had it all; family, career...! And she did it without a man like Bill Clinton helping her! She did it on her own."

"...Oh, you're right, that's why I hate her. It has nothing to do with her weaseling her way into political positions she isn't qualified to hold and then abusing them silly with nepotistic appointments and attempting to crush the careers of those who disagree with her; I don't like her because she's a successful, independent woman!"

"I THOUGHT SO!"

"Okay I'm hanging up on you now."

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link

HRC whined a lot, which may be crybabyism.

Anyway, next line of attack?

Just read that 2000 City Journal piece, and it's quite intriguing.

I think most would agree that the housing collapse is driving this financial meltdown, and it's quite possible that the low-income, "affordable housing" CRA shakedown fueled that collapse. Low-income housing has been a signature issue of Senator Obama's career, and his ties to the shady Chicago machine absolutely require the same kind of scrutiny as, say, Ms. Palin's pregnant daughter.

Now let's summarize with campaign spin: left-wing activists (er, "community organizers") extort trillions from our financial system to develop low-income housing (and fund political graft along the way), ultimately destabilizing our entire economy when the real estate bubble bursts. Obama has been involved in this scheme from the ground up, from securing funds in his community organizer days to doling them out as a Chicago legislator, along the way making connections with ACORN (whom he now uses as an arm of his campaign's "get-out-the-vote" efforts, despite the groups troubling record of voter fraud), and Rezko (who made millions off of developing low-income housing, and just coincidentally was one of Obama's biggest backers). This is not change I believe in.

McCain (and Bush, for that matter) were on the right side of this housing crises, while Obama was squarely in the mix helping to create it. Obviously the financial failure is much too big to lay at Obama's feet, but the contrast between the candidates on this issue couldn't be any more clear. McCain *has* to make this his primary message on the economy, and take away Obama's last remaining perceived strength. If Obama is effectively linked to this market meltdown, game over.

-NR subscriber in Boston

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

blame the poor, always a winner

"goole" (goole), Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link

lol let's give the Chicago machine a pap smear

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Diageo/Hotlline tracking: Obama 46-42

gabbneb, Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link

WOW

wow wow wow wow

Now let's summarize with campaign spin: left-wing activists (er, "community organizers") extort trillions from our financial system to develop low-income housing (and fund political graft along the way), ultimately destabilizing our entire economy when the real estate bubble bursts. Obama has been involved in this scheme from the ground up, from securing funds in his community organizer days to doling them out as a Chicago legislator, along the way making connections with ACORN (whom he now uses as an arm of his campaign's "get-out-the-vote" efforts, despite the groups troubling record of voter fraud), and Rezko (who made millions off of developing low-income housing, and just coincidentally was one of Obama's biggest backers).

VS

Milhouse: [steps up to blackboard] Ahem. OK, here's what we've got: the Rand Corporation, in conjunction with the saucer people --

Bart: Thank you.

Milhouse: -- under the supervision of the reverse vampires are forcing our parents to go to bed early in a fiendish plot to eliminate the meal of dinner.

Mr. Que, Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:45 (fifteen years ago) link

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/09/18/national_journal_poll_key_red_states_may_flip.html

Obama winning NM, losing VA, tied in CO, FL, OH

gabbneb, Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

those poor people, always fucking up the economy

many x-posts

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:47 (fifteen years ago) link

That Nordlinger post was worth it just for him to have to confront a little direct loathing away from his computer.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link

"absolutely require the same kind of scrutiny as, say, Ms. Palin's pregnant daughter"

meaning one news cycle and then we drop it? or maybe a long weekend of coverage followed by total silence

dmr, Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Now let's summarize with campaign spin: left-wing activists (er, "community organizers") extort trillions from our financial system

ha ok hold it right there

"goole" (goole), Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link

lol @ community organizers "extort[ing] trillions"

it be me, me, me and timothy (bernard snowy), Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:54 (fifteen years ago) link

if the low incoming housing I've seen cost trillions, SOMEBODY GOT PAID

A bold plan drawn up by assholes to screw morons (dan m), Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link

"give us trillions or we'll have an army of homeless people at your house within the hour!"

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link

trillions, dammit

TOMBOT, Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link

James Wolcott: "Jay Nordlinger and K'Lo seem locked in a friendly competition as to who can claim the crown of chief doofus."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Frank_Luntz_Polls_will_shift_to_0917.html

gabbneb, Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link

http://blogs.westword.com/demver/Frank_Luntz_lo.jpg

sleep, Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link

lolz Contract With America, yeah how'd that work out

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:10 (fifteen years ago) link

it was only a matter of time

http://thepage.time.com/2008/09/18/schmidt-obama-cheerleading-wall-street-chaos/

gabbneb, Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link

HANNITY: One last question that I didn't ask you: Did you watch Tina Fey on "Saturday Night Live"?

PALIN: I watched with the volume all the way down and I thought it was hilarious, she was spot on.

HANNITY: Do you think you could play her one day?

PALIN: Oh absolutely. It was hilarious. Again, I didn't hear a word she said, but the visual was spot on.

jaymc, Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link

waht

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link

it's her "didn't inhale" moment

Mr. Que, Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link

wtf why would Palin "play" Tina Fey? fuckin Hannity.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link

HANNITY: One last question that I didn't ask you: Did you watch Tina Fey on "Saturday Night Live"?

PALIN: I can actually see "Saturday Night Live" from land here in Alaska ... from an island in Alaska.

&whatnot (jeff), Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link

I missed the last part of that exchange:

HANNITY: Has anyone ever said that before? There's a similarity...

PALIN: They've been saying that for years up in Alaska. In fact, I dressed up as Tina Fey once for Halloween. We've been doing that before Tina Fey's being doing that.

jaymc, Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link

hannity is like a living 'in soviet russia' motivator

"goole" (goole), Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link

PALIN: I watched with the volume all the way down and I thought it was hilarious, she was spot on.

if you believe that, i've got a bridge to nowhere to sell you

gabbneb, Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link

PALIN: They've been saying that for years up in Alaska. In fact, I dressed up as Tina Fey once for Halloween. We've been doing that before Tina Fey's being doing that.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY WITH THAT LAST SENTENCE????

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link

i was bees tina fey. my whole arm was bees tina fey.

"goole" (goole), Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link

CELEBRATING HALLOWEEN IN ALASKA BEFORE ALL YOU FOOLS

More Random Threads... (carne asada), Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link

We in Alaska have been dressing up like Tina Fey before Tina Fey has been dressing up like Tina Fey.

&whatnot (jeff), Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link

good way to weave your sub-obscurity level of fame into the I'm-a-maverick party line

Edward III, Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

guys we need to get back to what's real: hating her because she's a woman, who did it on her own.

"goole" (goole), Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

I think this is my favorite handler/journalist exchange of the season so far:

Steve: I think what Brian, what Brian’s intent, I know what Brian’s intent to say was this: Is we won’t be intimidated by the Obama campaign or by a lot of the pro Obama media that disregards fact because they’re political inconvenient for Obama. Every ad that we put out, and I’m happy to set up a reading room and a table on any of these ads to go through his record. It’s factually accurate. For example, Barack Obama voted in the Senate for a tax increase budget resolution for people making 42,000 a year. That happened. In the space-time continuum that we all understand, all right, he made that vote. It happened. It’s real. On issue after issue we have represented his record in an accurate and a fair and in a fair way. Certainly, there is no symmetry between what the obama campaign is saying about john mccain particularly with this immigration ad, and you know many others with what we have said. We are talking about Senator Obama’s record. The ads are factual. And we will continue to talk about his record. And the fact that there is a lot of people in the media who when we criticize Obama rush forward with no hesitation at all to defend and protect him says something about the state of journalism in America, much more than it does about our campaign.

Question: The space time continuum?

J0hn D., Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

It's not even October and Schmidt's losing it!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Luntz, who claimed credit for branding the "Contract With America" in 1994 and shifting debate over global warming to "climate change,"

hunh at that second bit

kingfish, Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link

PALIN: I was dressing up like famous comediennes way before I got famous enough to be satirized by them.

Edward III, Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Schmidt's trying to avoid losing the election before October

gabbneb, Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link

schmidt's a nerdy nerdy nerd nerd!! he was going off about dungeons and dragons a couple weeks ago

"goole" (goole), Thursday, 18 September 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link


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