Worst Of These Mid-Late 90s UK Bands?

i was shocked and dismayed to discover that mrs fiendish went to see reef, many years ago. apparently they were "a bit shit" and she only went "because my mate had a ticket". still, though. brrr. reef. boak.

herman: yes, those mid-to-late-nineties TitP lineups you mention are one of the reasons i've never been to the thing -- i associate it with irredeemable shiteness.

I saw Noel Gallagher at Euston station at 9:30am this morning. He was leaning by the Cornish Pasty Company stall on his mobile. Someone shouted "Oi dickhead" at him.

"Someone" i.e. you?

I don't think Dom's the type for the hasty expletive, more the thought-out devastating character assassination, followed by the insouciant "Jokes, bruv"

Grimly> I wasnt at the 1st TTP, but the 2nd and 3rd were awesome, you just had to avoid the shite britpop acts. The dance tent was awesome and the main stage wasn't too bad apart from when The Beautiful South and M People headlined. All their fans waited out in the car park til they were due on. I saw Reef at one of them though and they were dreadful. I remember loads laughing at them as they had been proclaimed as the future of british rock.

Wasn't the first T In The Park technically the Stone Roses on Glasgow Green?

no

Are you sure? There was definitely at least one year it was on Glasgow Green before it moved out to Strathclyde Country Park, Radiohead played it. 99?

Wait a minute, that's obviously bollocks, the radiohead thing. It definitely started on the Green though.

Radiohead and Primal Scream did gigs on the green in late 90s. Then there was the gig on the green festival that bands playing reading would play. That's probably what you are thinking of.

No, I'm definitely thinking of 4-5 band bills under the Tennents banner before it moved to the country park. If the Stone Roses thing wasn't the first, then whatever happened the year after it was.

1st TITP was 1994 in Strathclyde Park,Hamilton. Possibly there was a gig in Strathy in the year or 2 before that led to it?

There may well have been, but the whole thing definitely started in Glasgow Green, I'm positive. It wasn't a festival as such, since it was only 4-5 bands and all on the one afternoon, but went under the T in the Park banner.

Nothing mentioned on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T_in_the_park

I checked there. I've discussed this before with people irl, so if I'm imagining it then I'm not the only one.

You are probably right about it coming from some gig Tennants sponsored, I just would be surprised if it was the stone roses one.

The guys from Shed Seven very kindly donated loads of Shed Seven 2007 Reunion glowsticks to my son's junior school disco the other day so they don't get my vote.

Who do?

a tiny pub round the corner from me has started putting on gigs, mainly local bands - the place can't hold more than 50 people. walking past yesterday i noticed the "coming soon" poster had .... Dodgy! and later in the month ... Miles Hunt!

Well, if it's good enough....

is the singer back in Dodgy?

Oxymoron, surely?

the poxy moron was the drummer

Maybe they'll relaunch with a double drum line-up, him and Shovel out of M People, to the delight of cheapo quiz show producers everywhere.

All those are horrible, can't possibly pick a least-worst.

You can do it

aldo, Tennent's used to put on gigs under the Tennent's Live banner for years before they came up with the idea of a whole festival (T in the Park), not sure if they were involved with the Stone Roses gig though.

Reef have the worst single song of any band here but I had to go with Stereophonics just for being consistently shit (yet daytime-radio-level popular) for a period of at least, what, four years.

Bands on this list I genuinely enjoyed one or more song(s) by at the time:
Dodgy
Gene
Menswe@r
Reef
3 Colours Red
Shed Seven
Space

Would run a mile from the lot now, mind.

also, are you thinking maybe of the Glasgow Fleadh in 1992? That was a Mean Fiddler thing, but Mean Fiddler were involved in the first T in the Park, I think, and put on other "In the Park" events?

actually, scrub that, I'm getting myself confused here. T in the Park was always DF/CPL (which I should know since I used to do some work for them at the time), but I'm sure there was some connection between the Fleadh and T in the Park.

Maybe there was an early partner in t in the park who quit?

Re: The JPEG - I really don't like Liam's face sticking out at me like that.

i haven't heard half of these bands, so I'm voting for The Longpigs on principle. Who fucking names their band The Longpigs?

-- Pillbox, Thursday, 29 May 2008 09:23 (4 days ago) Link

lengthy rant removed

-- chaki, Thursday, 29 May 2008 09:40 (4 days ago) Link

dude

-- RabiesAngentleman, Thursday, 29 May 2008 09:43 (4 days ago) Link

Yeah, that's just not Britpop.

-- Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 29 May 2008 09:51 (4 days ago) Link

You're offending Geir here, cover his eyes

-- Tom D., Thursday, 29 May 2008 09:52 (4 days ago) Link

Er.. Is there some wellspring of Longpigs affection around here? I am relatively new to ILX and don't post as frequently as some, so if there is an understood hands-off policy on dissing the Longpigs, it is news to me. Admittedly, my original (drunk) post wasn't the most informed proclamation, but off-the-cuff derision of random bands is di rigeur for this place. Maybe this seems paranoid, but really I'm a bit curious about the reaction to what I'd thought was a relatively benign chunk of slander. Sorry to piss in your punch, Longpigs fans.

Anyway, my real (sober) answer to the matter at hand is The Seahorses, slightly edging out the conspicuously absent Hurricane #1 in the "key member of a beloved former band debuts mind-bogglingly horrible second act" stakes. Whoever claimed upthread that Squire purposefully surrounded himself with hacks to ensure his star status is OTFM.

lol no, it was something Chaki wrote that has nothing to do with this thread,britpop or the longpigs.

OK, now I really do feel paranoid

or you

I think I have heard roughly 4 songs by Longpigs, 2 of which were great while the other two were OK. There are better bands in this list, but they weren't all that bad, really. The bad Brit indie bands of this era are mostly mentioned in the Brit Rock thread. Other than Ash (who knew how to coin a great melodic and catchy pop chorus), most of the bands in that list were rubbish.

you dont like the wildhearts, geir?

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

there were free fests in leeds too i think called umm something in the park in 94 and i think 93 too. britpoppy things.

And Kingmaker?

Really more early-90's than Mid-Late, don'tcha think?

Dodgy Dodgy Dodgy. Good Enough gets stuck in my head whenever I'm reminded of it, and it drives me mad. I used to go to a Britpop-type dance party (sad) and they played that damned song every single week. Then, recently, like within the past year or so, this girl I can't stand who was trying to impress some guy or something by liking Britpop told me she was "really getting into Dodgy." Seriously.

But that is true anyway. Most ILM'ers tend to think that pop music is about groove and rhythm and "soul", which is completely misguided. Good pop music is about really great choruses that you can sing along to, and a classic Beatlesque build-up to that chorus before it. And classic arrangements with lots of backup harmonies and stereo effects and flawless perfect playing. That is, not R&B but POP!

what's amazing about this geir post is, that it could've been written 10 years ago -- or it could be written 1,000,000 years in the future -- and geir will not change his sentiments AT ALL.

geir, your opinions about music need to be preserved in amber ... or something.

Most ILM'ers tend to think that pop music is about groove and rhythm and "soul"

I fucking don't.

Good Enough gets stuck in my head whenever I'm reminded of it

I see this as a positive thing rather than a negative one. A good tune is supposed to get stuck in your head. That's what good pop tunes are about.

"Good Enough" is not my fave by them in any way though.

Geir, have you ever thought about writing a book - "Geir Hongro's Manifesto of Pop" or something similar? Your opinions are so strongly held that I honestly think it'd be a fun read. I'm sure Nick would be agree to be ghostwriter.

LOL

hahaha but he's busy with the UK entry for Eurovision 2009 just now.

Is a wistful yearning for times long ago, innocence and summer days and the girl by the riverside on long hot summer days.

it's called "Melody"

Something like that would probably work out as most Eurovision voters are in their 40s or 50s. It would have to be sung in Serbo-Croatian though.

(And contain flutes, bagpipes and a 13/8 pulse)