(i don't really have a stake in this dicussion. i think gucci gucci is a good song but i dislike kreayshawn.)
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
is Drake his own gender now?
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
just curious is there anyway to criticize kreayshawn that's not "groundbreakin ilx negativity" or woman hating disproportionate backlash?
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha i just meant that some of the hate drake gets is for being "soft," isn't it? i mean, i think he's terrible, but i do think expectations of masculinity play into the way he gets dismissed sometimes. not necessarily on ilx
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
horseshoe otm although i should mention that i feel the ~perception~ of drake being gendered less than hypermale is pretty surface-level & oversold. he reaffirms his masculinity constantly.
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:15 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
is someone keeping you from hating on kreayshawn? you're in good company, & its not like anyone is defending this song! i just didn't want to dismiss her out of hand or talk about how this is so incredibly terrible when really its just as banal as anything else.
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
2 chainz drops songs just as boring every week
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
ok maybe drake is a bad example, just strikethrough his name and say "wayne"
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
c'mon "Breakfast" is different from other random southern rap 2 Chainz features in ways other than who Kreayshawn is
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
if that exact song/video dropped with Future and his homies instead of Kreayshawn and her girls people would be chuckling at it
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
tbh I basically assume Loiter Squad is equivalent to looping that video for 12 minutes
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
― some dude, Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:24 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
im pretty sure this exact thing has happened, i was just anticipating more vitriol than chuckling tho
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
the only 'expectations' i have is that ppl are birdmanhandrub-ing in anticipation of calling her a one hit wonder
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 19:24 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
love this post
― flopson, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah maybe there is or will be actual vitriol for "Breakfast" out there, everything i've seen has been more lol smh
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
i agree reaction to this will be overheated but its also the follow-up single to one of the most divisive rap hits of last year and is, like, unambiguously bad. sexism & schadenfreude will be a part of some reactions but al is right you can't act like this is just another 2 chainz feature, it's a notable flop from an artist with a nasal voice & generally obnoxious vibe
― flopson, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
wait when did we start talking about drake again
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
my problem with kreayshawn is basically the same as wiz khalifa, these motherfuckers aren't even rapping they're just talking in meter, barely even feels like a record, who needs that shit
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
well as jordan s once pointed out, what is rap but rhythmic speaking?
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 00:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
ok y'all are asking "what is rap" on the kreayshawn thread, ppl need to be yellow carded or put in the penalty box or some such shit
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 24 May 2012 01:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
Am I being naive or does the chorus of "Breakfast" sound a ton like "Stupid Hoe"? Also she sounds so fucking bored and uninterested in this song!
― a parker full of poseys (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 28 May 2012 21:22 (11 months ago) Permalink
Tbh I don't blame her for being uninterested in that song
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 May 2012 23:20 (11 months ago) Permalink
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:05 (11 months ago) Permalink
how can ppl hate her
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:06 (11 months ago) Permalink
It's easier than you think!
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:23 (11 months ago) Permalink
congrats on being heartless
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:25 (11 months ago) Permalink
its not going to do numbers, at least partly since theyve so mishandled her career -- she should have had immediate follow-ups released to GG -- but i kind of wish this would sell the hundreds of thousands it would have in the pre-internet era back before rockists got to feel self righteous every time a hugely popular artist had trouble selling CDs
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:27 (11 months ago) Permalink
for the sake of argument -- what hugely popular gold-selling rappers of the pre-itunes era is she analogous to, just cause i can't even visualize anyone, even setting aside race or gender or w/e
― some dude, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:30 (11 months ago) Permalink
candy man of 'knockin boots' fame
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:57 (11 months ago) Permalink
idk to pick a completely random example lol
have people forgotten that, like, there were teen rap one hit wonders prior to the internet?
not that he was a teen this is more a general question that's been popping up lately for probably obvious reasons
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:58 (11 months ago) Permalink
"Knockin' Boots" was a platinum single at a time when that was a pretty impressive feat. "Gucci Gucci" doesn't have any sales certification even in the iTunes era when any real big hit at least goes gold.
― some dude, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:39 (11 months ago) Permalink
its impossible to compare them b/c you couldnt do on-demand streams of 'knockin boots' 35 million times back in the knocking boots era either.
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Sunday, 24 June 2012 23:14 (11 months ago) Permalink
are you saying there aren't popular rap songs with 35+ million youtube views AND platinum iTunes sales? is "Gucci Gucci" as popular as "Teach Me How To Dougie" in your mind or something?
― some dude, Sunday, 24 June 2012 23:19 (11 months ago) Permalink
that song was already a hit when the video dropped
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Sunday, 24 June 2012 23:21 (11 months ago) Permalink
correct me if im wrong
so if the video dropped earlier it would've hurt its sales? wtf are you talking about?
― some dude, Sunday, 24 June 2012 23:22 (11 months ago) Permalink
one big room, full of bad logic
― some dude, Sunday, 24 June 2012 23:26 (11 months ago) Permalink
hehe
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 24 June 2012 23:31 (11 months ago) Permalink
im talking about the road a song takes to getting to its audience. by the time the vid for 'dougie' comes out people have already paid for mp3s
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Sunday, 24 June 2012 23:47 (11 months ago) Permalink
why are we even pursuing this line of reasoning w/r/t a song for which the video was basically the engine of its success
― some dude, Monday, 25 June 2012 00:03 (11 months ago) Permalink
Althea and/or Donna?
― badg, Monday, 25 June 2012 00:45 (11 months ago) Permalink
they were toasters at best, not rappers
― the hat's filthy lesson (sic), Monday, 25 June 2012 00:50 (11 months ago) Permalink
lol "gucci gucci: the uptown top ranking of its time" may be too crazy for even deej to endorse
― some dude, Monday, 25 June 2012 00:53 (11 months ago) Permalink
one hit wonders whose potential disappeared in a cloud of smoke?
― badg, Monday, 25 June 2012 00:58 (11 months ago) Permalink
Not that I know anything about Althea and Donna's circumstances
― badg, Monday, 25 June 2012 00:59 (11 months ago) Permalink
not all one hit wonders are created equal -- i mean if we're actually trying to discuss the scale of success of "Gucci Gucci" and people are genuinely saying it was as popular as "Uptown Top Ranking" or "Knockin' Boots" was in its day then i dunno what to say
― some dude, Monday, 25 June 2012 01:03 (11 months ago) Permalink
Lol deej, childhood videos, accusations of rockism, candyman comparisons, yr shootin' dirty pool tonight
next thing you know it will be slo-mo videos of kray looking longingly into the camera with that sarah mclaughlin adding from the animal shelter commercial playing....”with only pennies a day, you could help provide a viral rapper with books, clothes, and adderal”
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 June 2012 01:06 (11 months ago) Permalink
if that video didnt charm you you're the cynical one here imo
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Monday, 25 June 2012 01:08 (11 months ago) Permalink