Rolling Psych/Drone/Freak Thread 2012

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the "eternal single-stroke roll" you mentioned is actually sort of amazing. seems like it is going to be boring but is hypnotic.

tylerw, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

Dude, the music was great, but honestly the theater was way more entertaining than I thought it would be as well. Kid sits kinda zen-like through the whole thing, as obviously he has done this a bunch, but in talking to him it was made evident that this is not easy for him to do at all. Very tough physically, though he made it look effortless. Contrast this with the other drummer, which on this evening was Nathan Bowles from Spriral Joy Band (and late-period Pelt as well I think), who grimaced and puffed and just gutted his way through it, whilst never letting the roll stop. Was really interesting talking to both of them afterwards, and yeah, it just wasn't boring at all. The longer it went on, the more entrancing it got. Really heavy with the rules-based playing of the other folks too, subtle note shifts would just become epic events.

grandavis, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

yeah the fmu thing is just ridiculous in terms of physical stamina!

tylerw, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

WFMU set was cool, definitely close to the live set I saw, but I must stress that live it was WAY cooler. I think the guys playing last night got a little more interesting with the set of limitations, or just hit more strange moments with them by accident, but it was definitely heavier. Part of that is probably just a room sound vs. the radio (the drums in particular lost weight on the radio for me, but my computer/headphones also suck, so that might not be helping), but I would strongly recommend that anyone digging that radio set go to a show if Kid hits your area.

grandavis, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

So hey folks, the Lee Jackson tribute full tracklisting info is up:

For Lee Jackson in Space: a tribute album (one for the psych/drone fans)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

I am really digging this Robert Turman album, though it's squarely in Drone territory and not so much Psych/Freak:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PKWTsKXExE

Maybe it'd fit better in the Disintegration Loops thread, I don't know. Rolling hypnotic lo-fi minimalism 2012.

strictly shitty piano rock underground (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:24 (eleven years ago) link

Oh yeah, it's a reissue of a 1981 cassette on Spectrum Spooks, who also did that Franco Falsini Cold Nose reissue.

strictly shitty piano rock underground (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:26 (eleven years ago) link

Cold Nose is so awesome.

van smack, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:32 (eleven years ago) link

It is!

Oh and Spectrum Spools, y'all, my bad.

strictly shitty piano rock underground (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:56 (eleven years ago) link

Spectrum Stools?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:58 (eleven years ago) link

Anyway, For Lee Jackson in Space is now live:

http://forleejacksoninspace.bandcamp.com/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 June 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

Spectrum Stools?

and/or Rectum Stools

ilxor, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 02:15 (eleven years ago) link

Oh joy!

Now ilxor, you do know there's a Six Organs track on that tribute there, yeah? :-D

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 02:16 (eleven years ago) link

Man, Ned, that comp looks like a list of all the artists I've been getting WAY into for the past couple years

freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 7 June 2012 04:00 (eleven years ago) link

Just reading your mind, is all. Well, maybe.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 June 2012 04:02 (eleven years ago) link

That's a pretty great lineup! Is there a physical version or just digital? I'll buy whichever there is but if there's a choice I'll buy physical.

(And I guess it would be in poor taste to wonder how the Azusa Plane ended up on a tribute to someone who died 6 years after Jason DiEmilio, so I'll just be happy that one of AP's most immense tracks is now out there on a new release to be heard by more people.)

instant coffee happening between us (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 7 June 2012 09:45 (eleven years ago) link

Just digital. Far easier to manage!

Not in poor taste: Lee was a huge fan and had noted Jason's passing with sorrow, and Carol Dale had offered up the use of anything from Camera Obscura if desired. Combine that with said track's immensity and it all clicked.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 June 2012 12:41 (eleven years ago) link

That's cool, seems like a good pairing! And now I look more closely, yeah, I guess this would run to around 10 CDs, so I don't blame anyone for not wanting to take that on in physical form. Wow.

Thanks, Ned.

instant coffee happening between us (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 7 June 2012 12:52 (eleven years ago) link

Yer welcome!

Tonight's Chromatic Aberrations show on Radio Valencia will focus on selections from the album and there will be a podcast version later:

http://radiovalencia.fm/chromaticaberrations/2012/06/06/chromatic-aberrations68-12am-for-lee-jackson-in-space/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

That comp looks amazing, well done indeed Ned!

You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

Found this on one of my scandinavian music blergs: Starlight Serenaders "Orange Wind"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rP7oIX-QCU

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 05:55 (eleven years ago) link

Hey ho, new Peaking Lights streaming here:

http://soundcloud.com/weirdworldrecordco/sets/peaking-lights-lucifer

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link

good show at the flywheel:

MAN FOREVER
Enveloping drum wash - like Tony Conrad's Flicker turned into sound, played on one sixteen foot drum - by Kid Millions (Oneida) and Richard Hoffman (Sightings) and maybe others, I dunno.
BENJAMIN MILLER
Feeding Tube Records record release show! Deconstructed multiphonic guitar, tapes, voice, etc.
GARY HIGGINS
Yes, THAT Gary Higgins, of the classic 1973 psych-folk LP Red Hash.
THE SEDIMENT CLUB
Can we talk about their parents? They were in the Bush Tetras and the Voidoids.

$8

scott seward, Saturday, 16 June 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link

i might go to this local color show coming up at the 'wheel too : Steve Baczowski, Chris Corsano, Paul Flaherty, Bill Nace quartet

scott seward, Saturday, 16 June 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

I've been somewhat familiar with St Louis based electronic musician Raglani for years, but I'm listening to his 2010 record Of Sirens Born and it's sounding very fresh
This morning's review on Dusted of his new one is what stoked my interest

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link

Scott, I covered this pretty heavily above, but will definitely say that the Man Forever show I saw was excellent. Not for everybody, but I found it really compelling on multiple levels. If Richard Hoffman is playing as well that is a big bonus, he's great.

Really though, with Gary Higgins on the bill as well seems like a complete winner of a night.

grandavis, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

Can someone tell me more about the essential Sylvester/Silvester Anfang (II)? I bought the new one on a whim and now almost immediately i want more.

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Sunday, 1 July 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

Not trying to make a big 4th of July brouhaha or tie-in, but this is pretty astounding (and I only know about from someone posting it yesterday, so there ya go). I really dig when someone can translate themselves so succesfully into a known commodity and kick your ass with it, and this just delivers on that idea on so many levels for me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=USlBuN_g5T8

grandavis, Thursday, 5 July 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

Ah shit, not sure why that didn't embed properly, but it is Bill Orcutt doing "The Star Spangled Banner".

Fuck it, here's some more Orcutt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyiDepQQ56o&feature=related

grandavis, Thursday, 5 July 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

think i hate bill orcutt. anyone hear the new corsano?

ogmor, Thursday, 5 July 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

that Orcutt SSB was way great; thx grandavis

heaven needed someone who rhymed with 'poop' (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 5 July 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

Sure thing LLB. New Corsano I have heard sounded great, but just a track or two. Those two songs made me want to hear the whole thing without a doubt though.

I can see Orcutt not being one's thing, but glad that is not the case for me.

grandavis, Thursday, 5 July 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

there's some corsano vids on the ecstatic peace site, they're coming from the young cricketer end of things which is great by me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_bNsmvCSaU

really thought i wld dig orcutt & there were a few initial things that caught my ear but the more i've listened to the more limited it sounds. i wish i cld just write it off but there is still an overall neatness to the phrasing, his technique is obv pleasingly & he has v appealing moments but i am mostly bored by the one-note sleepy-drunk lofi sloppyness of it.

ogmor, Thursday, 5 July 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, Corsano covers a lot of terrain successfully, that clip is great. Orcutt is definitely playing from a limited palette, and I can only take it in smallish doses (that 20 minute clip above seems about right as far as what I could get through live, depending on him mixing it up a bit), I can get being bored by it. I don't get sleepy-drunk (or lo-fi actually) from it at all though. He seems heavily invested in it, and attacks the guitar with a lot of gusto. Not necessarily vituosic (a la much of Corsano's stuff) but certainly accomplished. I get what you are saying though, would certainly come across that way if you aren't feeling it.

grandavis, Thursday, 5 July 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

Any opinions on the White Manna album to be had here?

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Thursday, 5 July 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

moreover

Can someone tell me more about the essential Sylvester/Silvester Anfang (II)? I bought the new one on a whim and now almost immediately i want more.

― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Sunday, July 1, 2012 9:15 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark

i did find this, and it is highly recommended by me if you like a driving kind of dark rockabilly vibe with your clangy psychedelic guitar noises
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui3x2VRG92c

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 July 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

re: orcutt
mb stronger rhythm wld give him more space to move around in. as it is he falls into these phrases, speeding up v fast then slowing down, it's like he's staggering, swaying, he totally sounds like a blind-drunk virtuoso - esp mumbling to himself - v immediate but not v mindful. also the first record at least, is mad lofi.

ogmor, Thursday, 5 July 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, that record is lo-fi, I guess I just don't associate that term with folks doing solo guitar improvisations (not that it matters, lo fidelity is lo fidelity). Don't really wanna parse his playing too much, as I have never heard him talk about it or anything. Seems like he is doing what he wants, which is mindful to me, but sure, he falls into phrases and lurches around then pauses. Just seems intentionally limited, not like he is lacking stronger rhythm phrasing etc. But, 5 more records of that kinda thing may not really pan out, I can see that. Really that "Star Spangled Banner" above shows a pretty good combo of his signature style with some adherence to midnfulness (to me at least). Good direction for him.

La Lechera, that Sylvester Anfang II song is cool, would have sounded great at a barbecue yesterday. Good music to melt in the heat to. Don't know anything about them, but may have to investigate. Thanks.

grandavis, Thursday, 5 July 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

he played a couple weeks back with a drummer at a warehouse show i was at, however, it being a warehouse show, it started about 2 hours later than advertised, and i had to work the next day, so i left before he played. but based on this discussion, i wish i had stayed, so i could report on how that worked out vis a vis his style.

sarahell, Thursday, 5 July 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

Apparently SAII have two albums out this year? The one I bought is much much slower/hynotic in its grooviness, recommended if you like your raga with an element of space noise.

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 July 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

Sylvester Anfang II are definitely someone I want to check out. Emil.y was raving about them on another thread the other day...

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Thursday, 5 July 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

Yes, they are emil.y approved, I know that to be true!

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 July 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

is the new ty segall psych/freak or was that the white fence vibe

how's the new blooz contrrol

the late great, Thursday, 5 July 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

I'm hoping the new Blues Control is better than the samples I've heard. Too much cheesy keyboard way out front.

Amoeba, Fish, Monkey, Shame (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 5 July 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

not all the tracks have that but it's the most prominent change in their sound

it'll prolly bug quite a few ppl but I get the impression they're fairly cool with that

if you are a false nine don't entry (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 5 July 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link

hmmm... I didn't care for the promo track at all and I'm a pretty big fan. bummer.

original bgm, Thursday, 5 July 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

i thought the laraaji thing was tight

:(

the late great, Thursday, 5 July 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link

Hey who wants to do a quick blues Control s/d or rundown itt? I want to get into them and I think I'm gonna try Puff but I don't quite know what to expect. Any recommendations?

yes (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 6 July 2012 05:38 (eleven years ago) link

new Alexander Tucker, Third Mouth, on Thrill Jockey, blowing me away right now. Keep flipping it over and over. Fourth listen today. Gamechanger, methinks!

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 6 July 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link


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