THE MASTER (2012) P.T. Anderson's film on the origions of Scientology (sort of), Starring Philip Seymour Hoffman, Joaquin Phoenix, Amy Adams, and Laura Dern

jeez i'm just saying elmo kinda went off apropos of nothing

yeah woah, totally off topic, speculating about the possible movie and how its controversial subject might be received, gosh i'm sorry bout that

tom-cruise-has-seen-paul-thomas-andersons-the-master-has-issues-with-it

Joke's gonna be on all of us when this turns out to be a MANOS prequel.

http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/manos/notapproved.jpg

it was more the way you did a mini-rant, then i posted something, then you went in for another rant that seemed even madder and unrelated to the previous posts. i mean go ahead, rage it up, i just thought maybe you could pump your brakes.

glad weve gotten the thread back on topic

I don't know a ton about Hubbard & Co, but I will be pleased if Anderson has made his first wholly successful film since Hard Eight.

btw i thought it pretty clear that my point wasn't "scientology's bad" but "hubbard was probably a jerk" but *shrugs*

I don't know a ton about Hubbard & Co, but I will be pleased if Anderson has made his first wholly successful film since Hard Eight.

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The Master

who knows, maybe we'll see a softer, cuddlier side of hubbard in this film! which would be something much more interesting than "here's a crazy cultist huckster, who was bad"

Whoa whoa whoa. Rein it in a bit there, elmo, you utter maniac.

I don't know a ton about Hubbard & Co, but I will be pleased if Anderson has made his first wholly successful film since Hard Eight.

Morbs, just so I can keep tally when this comes out, what percentage of each of his films would you deem wholly successful?

Also, please list other wholly successful films, thanks.

(BTW, Morbs, you would totally love Hubbard!)

The reviews for TWBB were more unhinged and crazed than the movie itself.

My ranking:

Hard Eight
Boogie Nights
bits of TWBB

not doing the Someone Who Shouldn't Be a Respected Auteur's Career Recap in yet another thread.

gutted

Morbs, I want numbers! Show me the numbers!

i actually think PTA would be trolling harder if this film actually portrayed LRH in a sympathetic light than if it were a merciless debunking of all things scientology. that's not to say that trolling is the best or noblest thing he could do with this film.

i think it's legit and fascinating to wonder about how l ron hubbard understood himself and related to others. i can only imagine that being surrounded by a bunch of people who believe steadfastly in your quasi-divinity and made-up mumbo-jumbo might actually cause you to be contemptuous of people in general. but i can't really see a way to tell the LRH story without the ultimate verdict being pretty damning, because you know....

If Phillip Seymour Hoffman's character is supposed to be an LRH stand-in, does anyone know Phoenix's character's historical analogue?

tom cruise

Heinlein

amateurist OTM. i'm guessing the phoenix character might be the first person 'LRH' actually 'helps,' and who, from the trailer, actually seems in need of help? cultism aside, a lot of scientologists credit the system for liberating them from long histories of substance abuse, which i think most people would agree is a noble cause. so is he helping the helpless, or exploiting the weak, or both? this is the stuff i'm hoping the movie addresses, i'll probably be happy with whatever tho.

A drifter (Phoenix) becomes his right-hand man but as the faith begins to gain a fervent following, the drifter finds himself questioning the belief system and his mentor.

The drifter becomes the drifted.

if this turns out to be a "debunking" of scientology i'll eat my shoe

well he already debunked porn, oil and frogs, it was just a matter of time before he found the next target of his michael moore-style takedowns

debunking frogbs

Teaser Number 2!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5U8eyMFCpJw

Attempt 2 to embed!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U8eyMFCpJw

i've got a feeling this film is going to have music in it

cool

Damn great. Wonderful to finally get a sense of how Hoffman is doing this.

Dunphy: “There’s another feature of today that is unique, it’s an honour for Liam to be sitting in between two former Millwall footballers – and it’s not often two former Millwall footballers appear on television.”

Sadlier: “Privileged.”

Brady: “Where do Millwall ex players usually appear? In the dock?”

Maloney: “We’d like to distance ourself from those remarks – and so would Liam.”

brady's best ever zing? can't wait for video of this to emerge.

Me neither.

gah wrong thread

I was wondering if I missed something in the trailer.

i wish they were in it

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oh wow. i'd heard the 'loaf of bread' part of that but not the context.

Just stopping by to list two things I love:

• Magnolia
• Julianne Moore

Agree with ALS & Morbs that Hard Eight is his most fully realized movie. I saw Hrd8 after Boogie Nights, Magnolia, & Punch-Drunk. I was exctatic. PDL is his only movie I feel ambivalent about.

WRT Magnolia and TWBB, I love a great hot mess of a movie.

stoked for the madness.

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http://thefilmstage.com/trailer/first-theatrical-trailer-for-paul-thomas-anderson%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98the-master%E2%80%99-%E2%80%93-philip-seymour-hoffman-converts-joaquin-phoenix/

just came to post it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ1O1vb9AUU

wow

stoooooooooked