wow. nice discussion. i love the internet.
thanks dan and jorge
― speculator (speculaotr), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 05:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
Umm... Marlowe, Phil Sherburne explores some of those links you're making between minimalisms in his essay from the Audio Culture book, fyi.
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 07:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 08:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
Repress of African Rhythms!?!?! I must acquire!
― EDB, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 08:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
"...Phil Sherburne explores some of those links..."
Thx, will check it out.
― J. Marlowe, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 11:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
Gonna see Ital, Magic Touch, Maria Minerva and LA Vampires tonite in Amsterdam for the 100% Silk label tour. I sort of have mixed expectations about the live shows, but will report back.
Anyone else seen these guys perform?
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 31 May 2012 08:10 (11 months ago) Permalink
See you at OT301, then!
Saw Maria Minerva play to a very enervated Subbacultcha crowd at the same venue earlier in the year (the usual thing where the gig was free for members and they couldn't give a fuck about who was performing, talking/boozing with friends) to no great effect, and I saw Ital play a very sweaty set in Utrecht last year, albeit to a crowd that was mainly there to see Twin Sister.Hoping for a more dance-friendly atmosphere tonight.
― etc, Thursday, 31 May 2012 08:18 (11 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, that's been my experience with Subbacultcha crowds, there can be a sense of indifference to the actual acts that comes along with that subscription model, I suppose.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 31 May 2012 09:04 (11 months ago) Permalink
So, Ital. Really good live. He was on a bit early maybe, considering the kind of twisted banging music he played, but I was not at all disappointed.
― MikoMcha, Friday, 1 June 2012 11:12 (11 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, Ital bought the trackiness - much better crowd response than at EKKO, and I really like how into it he gets while performing. Nice sushi chef/masseuse keyboard hammering, heh. Missed Maria Minerva's set; L.A. Vampires were a lot songier than I expected, with "Wherever, Boy" a highlight. Loved how Amanda was dancing up front to the other acts!
― etc, Friday, 1 June 2012 13:45 (11 months ago) Permalink
Philip Sherburne and Miracles Club on the birth of hipster house in Portland.
I went to the Holocene on my one visit there. Saw Soft Metals, Joey Casio and somebody else with an amazing collection of Roland gear (any help?).
― dan selzer, Friday, 1 June 2012 22:35 (11 months ago) Permalink
somehow i never went to holocene in the year and a half i lived there. i think a friend scared me off of it.
in other news, octo octa continues being good, kinda http://vimeo.com/41865217
― The Reverend, Saturday, 2 June 2012 20:13 (11 months ago) Permalink
it's true that house bangers totally clear the floor there, sigh
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Saturday, 2 June 2012 21:25 (11 months ago) Permalink
I went to this 100% Silk tour show last night. Maria Minerva was a revelation, so much more dramatic and punchier than her recorded material, but really endearing as a performer. Ital was great too. Not so much "banging" as "noisy" and for a guy whose live show consists of a projector and him turning knobs on gear, he was fun to watch. Innergaze were dreadful though, between their lacklustre show and the fact it was a school night meant I didn't hang around. The highlight was watching Amanda Brown going wild at the front of an otherwise stationary dancefloor.
― boxedjoy, Friday, 8 June 2012 11:35 (11 months ago) Permalink
Sounds cool. I'm going to the London leg tomorrow, which is at Birthdays in Dalston.
― Citizen Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 8 June 2012 12:48 (11 months ago) Permalink
i went to the paris show and it was super good, best set ive seen la vampires do p much ever. had low expectations tbh cuz when i saw the label tour in la/toronto it was p w/e and ppl werent that into it but the place was packed and ppl were dancing and it was a really good time. it was funny how much 'clubbier' the stuff played tho
― Lamp, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 00:12 (11 months ago) Permalink
here are some things i have found underwhelming lately
- minimal wave
- hivern disc
- octa octa
- american acid (vis a vis british acid)
some of it is just lol
annie lenox uneasy lol
craigslist after dark lolz
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 5 July 2012 01:16 (10 months ago) Permalink
here is some stuff along the vein of this music though that i have found compelling
electronic prog rock in the vein of klaus schulze, yet infected with the whimsy and rowdy conceptual bent of frank zappa and the bass pressure of early uk soundsystem pioneers bill laswell, jah wobble, coldcut and daevid allen, this inspired crucial acid house artists / soccer hooligans / national front members the klf and edgar varese as well as inspiring "newbuild" and "90125", thus laying the groundwork for both the hacienda as well as the entire bass 'nuum
raw US house productions in the vein of detroit house masters like madlib, w/ strong traces of the self-indulgence that european house artists like ame,henrik schwarz and moodyman would milk to death
classic minimalist detroit techno
terry riley influence here
philip glass influenced house?
contemporary german trance
and goa trance
disco with a pronounced sylvester / patrick cowley vibe
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 5 July 2012 01:48 (10 months ago) Permalink
whoops i said philip glass but i meant terry riley!
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 5 July 2012 01:49 (10 months ago) Permalink
anyway - detroit techno links were broken
inspired drexciya iirc
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 5 July 2012 01:54 (10 months ago) Permalink
stop putting Panda Bear on your albums people
― Number None, Sunday, 19 August 2012 21:37 (9 months ago) Permalink
i've never really understood that whole opinion— the track on the new TGF is pretty good, and his appearance on "Black Noise" was quite awesome. to me it just seems like generic "OMG some hipster guy invading my precious sub-genre" bullshit.
― for reasons of sass (the table is the table), Sunday, 19 August 2012 21:42 (9 months ago) Permalink
i don't have a problem with PB in Animal Collective. I just don't think he adds anything as a guest vocalist
― Number None, Sunday, 19 August 2012 21:45 (9 months ago) Permalink
OTOH that Talabot track with the dude from Delorean would probably better with PB.
― Tim F, Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:09 (9 months ago) Permalink
"OMG some hipster guy invading my precious sub-genre" bullshit
i don't want any hipsters in my hipster house, thanks
is anyone else into this innergaze album?
not really house at all but who cares, this is great
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Monday, 20 August 2012 19:20 (9 months ago) Permalink
ha I thought "innergaze" was some new genre.
― skip, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 18:38 (9 months ago) Permalink
yeah its crazy good posted about it elsewhere on ilm tho
― Lamp, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 19:34 (9 months ago) Permalink
where? was it in your forest thread or w/e, i haven't had time to do much other than check bookmarks lately
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 03:00 (9 months ago) Permalink
yeah, probably, i just remember posting about it
― Lamp, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 03:31 (9 months ago) Permalink
i'm listening to minimal wave on a sunny day and ... fuck, it's actually kind of cool?
songs like this have not only a cool detroit techno flashback vibe but also a "computer incantations for world peace", hardly as dark-sounding in the right context as people make it out to be, more mystical than anything else
sampled by madlib i believe for this gem
― the late great, Friday, 21 September 2012 20:27 (8 months ago) Permalink
ha I just listened to Minimal Wave Tapes last night. this track I had never noticed before really stuck out.
vocals are deadpan but has a pop element to it too, in the call and response. and the breathier female parts remind me of something really specific that I can't put my finger on. cool song.
― dmr, Friday, 21 September 2012 20:35 (8 months ago) Permalink
she did a great job with those comps, they're really good
i know what you mean! the part at 1:00 sounds EXACTLY like something else
― the late great, Friday, 21 September 2012 20:37 (8 months ago) Permalink
some italo thing like sharevari
― the late great, Friday, 21 September 2012 20:39 (8 months ago) Permalink
madlib also used
guess he built that track around minimal wave tapes 1
― the late great, Saturday, 22 September 2012 10:00 (8 months ago) Permalink
Loving that Oppenheimer Analysis album, thanks for the heads up here
― skip, Sunday, 23 September 2012 15:06 (8 months ago) Permalink
there's not like the finest line between that and this
― the late great, Sunday, 23 September 2012 15:12 (8 months ago) Permalink
Getting a bit of a Saint Etienne Foxbase Alpha vibe from the new LA Vampires/Maria Minerva record. Nice album:
― MikoMcha, Sunday, 18 November 2012 12:26 (6 months ago) Permalink
Also, has the new Ital Dream On been mentioned? Another interesting release from him.
― MikoMcha, Sunday, 18 November 2012 12:30 (6 months ago) Permalink
that maria/la vampires record is so good.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Sunday, 18 November 2012 13:07 (6 months ago) Permalink
there is a nice little scene germinating in my city (vancouver). was at a delightful party last night. here's the promo mix they did for it. all local artists!
― fennel cartwright, Sunday, 25 November 2012 20:17 (5 months ago) Permalink
So, what's the best of this stuff in 2012? I've not really kept up. I liked the first Ital LP but now I see there's another one. The Maria Minerva / LA Vampires sound interesting, I'll check that out - what with all my SE love.
― kraudive, Sunday, 25 November 2012 21:44 (5 months ago) Permalink
i'm digging the new holly herndon full length on RVNG
the album drifts between minimalist noise composition and more uptempo moments like the track above
not sure if there's a rational reason to put it in this thread, but i'm not really sure where else i'd put it so
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Sunday, 25 November 2012 22:06 (5 months ago) Permalink
Really feeling that Holly Herndon album, it's like the Laurel Halo one if it was as easy to listen to as it is to admire.
― boxedjoy, Monday, 26 November 2012 10:47 (5 months ago) Permalink
i found that laurel halo album unbelievably disappointing so maybe ms herndon is the lass for me
― monotony, Monday, 26 November 2012 13:14 (5 months ago) Permalink
laurel halo album is so bad lol
― flopson, Monday, 26 November 2012 16:04 (5 months ago) Permalink
I really don't understand Ital; either of the releases this year. I kind of want to though... It does really nothing for me :-/
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Monday, 26 November 2012 16:05 (5 months ago) Permalink
not feeling the minimal vocal pieces i've hear4d from that herndon record, it sounds like someone playing around with ableton pitch-shift in a really unadorned and unappealing way.
Ital is great. i really like the analog texture, and the sense of hardware machines interacting and not being quantized together (whether or not he actually uses hardware & tape, i don't know).
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Monday, 26 November 2012 16:25 (5 months ago) Permalink
I heard it's all done in Audacity (a bit like Burial), which is formidable if true, but I'm just not sure I can get my head around the aesthetic. The idea of it being house you can't dance to, or home-listening electronica that sounds like dance music, well it frustrates me. I guess there's loads of music that could come under this banner, but the Ital albums seem like they've been purposefully created to be jarring in a lot of ways and it just comes off unpleasant. I can neither dance around to it nor space out and enjoy the sounds. That said I have a feeling it's perhaps a matter of things "clicking" into place for me.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Monday, 26 November 2012 16:37 (5 months ago) Permalink
i really like this octo octa from earlier this year: http://soundcloud.com/mixmag-1/octo-octa-oh-love
― jabba hands, Friday, 30 November 2012 16:01 (5 months ago) Permalink
dog that surprises me cause aren't you like mr idm?!?
― the late great, Friday, 30 November 2012 16:54 (5 months ago) Permalink