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― Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 19:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
Fucking hell, first time I've seen that 500th show end-card (lol UK redux); pure, dripping contempt for your (perceived) audience is truly nagl.
― that mustardless plate (Bill A), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 04:39 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
There's a very nu-Simpsons vibe to referring to "logging onto the internet" in 2012
― frogbs, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 04:42 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
brought to mind a writers' room full of old men who tuck their casual vertical-striped shirts into their jeans and don't trim their wayward eyebrows
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 22:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
ian maxtone graham has a secret desk full of new socks and underwear.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 23:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's crazy how we've gone from "Futurama is good, but it's nowhere near the Simpsons"
LOL WTF, I've always thought Fututama was in a completely different league to the Simpsons.
― Pureed Moods (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
how old are you exactly?
― Number None, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
who was that aimed at?
― Pureed Moods (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
I like Futurama a lot but to suggest it was at any point better than peak period Simpsons is crazy
― Number None, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
I dont agree! Not entirely.
I didnt say Futurama was better than all Simpsons. I said it's in a different league. Apples n oranges. When Futurama appeared it was a breath of fresh air compared to Simpsons - not talking down to its damn audience as much, imo.
The veneration for S2-8 of the Simpsons has always been deeply weird, to me. Its good, but theres plenty good later on, there's plenty good in season one, and I cant help but wonder if people who lament it sharkjumping that early on are people who like, havent actually *watched* it much since it orginally aired and are leaning on memories.
― Pureed Moods (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
And Im not sure what my age has to do with anything. (fwiw I've seen both shows right from their beginnings and have all of them on DVD, if that helps?)
― Pureed Moods (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
"In a different league" doesn't mean the same thing as "apples and oranges"
― Number None, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
and to say the two shows aren't comparable is kind of weird anyway
― Number None, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
There are Futurama episodes I personally think shit all over much of the Simpsons, thats all I'm sayin. I just dont agree with frogs's assertion that implied when it came out people were saying "pffff its no Simpsons". They werent, no one I knew was anyway.
xpost well no of course there's comparable areas, theyre both Groening shows! Anyway.
― Pureed Moods (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'll tell you what really lost its quality control, is Life In Hell.
― Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
tbh I haven't read it since it was 16 panels of Akbar & Jeff talking about Bush and WMDs
Haha :D Does he even still do LiH? I have a couple of hardcover books of it stashed away at home somewhere.
― Pureed Moods (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
xpost
Now, that really is apples & oranges inasmuch as you believe the almost nonexistent input Groening had on the creative process of either The Simpsons or Futurama. That Simpsons oral history was an eye-opening tome, I tells ya.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
I know Futurama is really Cohen's baby. But the genesis of it was def both him and Groening, doodling bored in Simpsons meetings, coming up with the idea for a sci-fi cartoon.
― Pureed Moods (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 01:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
"theyre both Groening" shows doesnt mean "he writes and draws every episode himself! By hand! omg heeroe!~"
― Pureed Moods (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 01:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
Me neither. And my alt weekly stopped running it so I have no idea if it is any good or not these days.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 01:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
No, seriously, in that oral history, several people pretty blatantly say that Groening was largely hands-off from the start. Like, "do some doodles and collect a check" hands-off.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 01:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
well, he's the creator. it's his drawing style, his characters, his general sense of humor. at a certain point it doesn't really matter how much else he did beyond that.
― waggin the cock and flow tit (some dude), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 01:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
Thanks to ILX, I've finally come to fully understand the purpose behind that old term paper saw about restating the thesis in your closing statement.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 01:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
S1 is pretty great too, but yes, I've watched the 'classic' ones whenever I could, and they're still great
Around me the Simpsons and Futurama got compared A LOT, even though we knew you're not really supposed to
― frogbs, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 01:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
part of what i like about the first couple seasons is that it's very groening-ish humor -- like, you can read 'childhood is hell' and 'school is hell' and watch those episodes and recognize that, whether he wrote any of it or not, it's definitely stamped with his sense of humor and general outlook on life. i haven't read that oral history but i assume he had at least some more input in the early days?
the only episode that matt groening actually wrote, 'colonel homer' (where homer is lurleen lumpkin's manager), has always been one of my least favorites.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 02:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
uh, 'whether he wrote any of it or not' referring to the simpsons, not LIH.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 02:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
I remember being all excited when I heard that the Life In Hell guy was going to have his own animated show (I somehow missed the Tracey Ullman shorts). I hoped that the series would spend a season on an animated version of Groening's 5th grade diary (from School Is Hell). I'm glad it didn't, though.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 02:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
When Futurama appeared it was a breath of fresh air compared to Simpsons - not talking down to its damn audience as much, imo.
lack of back-patting science nerd references /= "talking down"
― waggin the cock and flow tit (some dude), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 02:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think the tracey ullman shorts are great but apparently few other ppl do since they've never been released on dvd (unless there's some rights issue or something).
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 02:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, I used to check the ...In Hell collections out of the library (and subsequently sneak them into the house) all the time in elementary school, so I was on top of it when Ullman started.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 02:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
somedude: granted, but I guess I also meant that it does that nerdlolz without stopping to blatantly explain it, whereas - to me anyway - it feels like the Simpsons (like Family Guy) sometimes overexplain a ref/joke/thing/person.
― Pureed Moods (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 03:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
Certainly, they do so NOW, but that isnt what we were talking about, so fair cop.
"Pureed Moods (Trayce)Posted: 22 May, 2012 19:38:12And Im not sure what my age has to do with anything. (fwiw I've seen both shows right from their beginnings and have all of them on DVD, if that helps?)"
There is a bit on How I Met Your Mother where Barney postulates that if you watched Star Wars prior to the age of 8, you'd love the ewoks because they're cute versus hating them for ruining the movie; this may come into it a bit. We were younger & Simpsons fresher when it started out..
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 03:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
...but I was 20 when the Simpsons started lol :|
― Pureed Moods (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 03:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
THANKS YALL FEEL OLD NOW :(
― Pureed Moods (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 03:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
deric, what's the title of that oral history? would like to check it out
― Sisig Steve (stevie), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 10:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
LOL at Klassic Simpsons "talking down to its audience." That's . . . not the case? They put Ayn Rand jokes in, probably not figuring anyone would get them at all. Or stuff like:
Bart: I know that's funny, but I'm just not laughing. [taps head] Lisa: Hmm. Pablo Neruda said, "Laughter is the language of the soul." Bart: I am familiar with the works of Pablo Neruda.
― it was a dark and stormy genitals. (Phil D.), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 12:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
But yeah, Futurama was a very different animal. I had different expectations from them and got different things. But I will disagree w/Trayce on The veneration for S2-8 of the Simpsons has always been deeply weird, to me. Its good, but theres plenty good later on, there's plenty good in season one, and I cant help but wonder if people who lament it sharkjumping that early on are people who like, havent actually *watched* it much since it orginally aired and are leaning on memories.
I'll go as far out as season 13 in saying there was still more good than bad, and I've watched fairly loyally over the years for the one or two episodes per season that provide a ton of laughs and pleasure, but almost never (and that almost is a very generous hedge) do the reach the dizzying heights of classic after classic like season 4 or 5.
― it was a dark and stormy genitals. (Phil D.), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 12:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
shaving my shoulders... i'm gettin it all shaved off
― ban halen (electricsound), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 12:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
Season 1 of the Simpsons is a revelation. SMH at anyone who thinks otherwise
― ʕ•̫͡ʕ•̫͡ʕ•̫͡ʕ•̫͡•ʔ•̫͡•ʔ•̫͡•ʔ•̫͡•ʔ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 12:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
I think it's An Uncensored, Unauthorized History of The Simpsons? The cover looks like this:
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 12:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
awww, sorry Trayce! What I was getting at is that the Simpsons are something we (I) *grew up with* instead of just having the option to check them out as an adult (which is when Futurama came onto my radar. Which I like, but only find okay.)
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 12:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
thanks! will seek out xp
― Sisig Steve (stevie), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 13:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
I hear that simpsons history is bad news fwiw
― ʕ•̫͡ʕ•̫͡ʕ•̫͡ʕ•̫͡•ʔ•̫͡•ʔ•̫͡•ʔ•̫͡•ʔ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 13:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
In what way? I mean, some of the key players didn't participate, but the people who did (including Conan) were legit. I read it and it was pretty revealing without being, y'know, salacious or whatever.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 13:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
i found it second hand on amazon for a penny, will take my chances at that price tbh
― Sisig Steve (stevie), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 14:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
dead homer society just released an ebook on the decline of the simpsons. Could be interesting...
― EDB, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 21:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
what the fuck is that
― rock the swagon and g.o.a.t. it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 May 2012 00:00 (11 months ago) Permalink
this is funhttp://moviesimpsons.tumblr.com/
― a finnish scientist who collects nightmares (arby's), Thursday, 24 May 2012 13:05 (11 months ago) Permalink
i love that
― rock the swagon and g.o.a.t. it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 May 2012 13:25 (11 months ago) Permalink
just saw the "Try-n-save" episode where Brat shoplifts Bonestorm and that episode is classic as ever, it's not just a nostalgia thing, this show was awesome
― frogbs, Thursday, 24 May 2012 13:29 (11 months ago) Permalink