tbf I don't think anyone understood what was going on in What is It?
― "horror shirt" (Pillbox), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ one of PUS
― "horror shirt" (Pillbox), Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:47 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
LOL LOL
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
Powell played the father. That's him in the home movies torturing little Mark.
You're right, I forgot the dad is on screen. And the kid is Powell's son.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
ugh, can't believe I forgot to vote for Freaks. Definitely would have bumped it up a notch or two.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
Hausu is the only thing I watched because of this poll that ended up on my ballot. Kooky and ooky in equal parts.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
xxxp given what neuroscience knows about microcephaly today I think we can safely make some assumptions without disappearing down a philosophical rabbit hole.
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
i often have reservations of one sort or another about films that make use of mentally disabled actors: freaks, jodorowsky's santa sangre (which i should have voted for, goddam it), lars von trier's the kingdom and especially crispin glover's what is it?
there's a big difference between the treatment (cinematic treatment that is) of the mentally disabled actors in the kingdom vs. that crispin glover movie.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
contenderizer, I'd argue that the two actors with Down's Syndrome in The Kingdom were probably among the most gently-handled and sensitively-portrayed performers in Von Trier's filmography.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
"If you ... are thinking ... of seeing ... this film ... alone ... DERN't!"
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32. INLAND EMPIREDavid Lynch, USA, 2006(482 points, 14 votes)
what can Lynch really do after Inland Empire? feels like he's kind of exhausted the repertoire with this. feels like something he's been working towards, a condensed, cumulative piece of work.love the hell out of it.― circa1916, Saturday, January 15, 2011 3:24 AM (1 year ago)i think trying to interpret this film is just a headache i don't want or need.― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:28 PM (2 years ago)Ok. WTF.WTF.― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, August 14, 2007 6:43 PM (4 years ago)I remember still being on the fence about it immediately after seeing it the first time.― Eric H., Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:49 PM (4 years ago)I've now re-watched the first ten minutes and, suddenly, IT MAKES SENSE.― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:50 PM (4 years ago)Well, I wouldn't go that far.― Eric H., Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:51 PM (4 years ago)David Lynch's "Inland Empire"
i think trying to interpret this film is just a headache i don't want or need.― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:28 PM (2 years ago)
Ok. WTF.WTF.― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, August 14, 2007 6:43 PM (4 years ago)
I remember still being on the fence about it immediately after seeing it the first time.― Eric H., Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:49 PM (4 years ago)
I've now re-watched the first ten minutes and, suddenly, IT MAKES SENSE.― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:50 PM (4 years ago)
Well, I wouldn't go that far.― Eric H., Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:51 PM (4 years ago)
David Lynch's "Inland Empire"
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
oh, I guess The Kingdom will count for this jonner, eh
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
I really don't get all the hate for the shift in the descent
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Tuesday, May 22, 2012 12:34 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, I loved the first part. I was an enthusiastic spelunker when I was younger and I suffered from mild claustrophobia. Perfect!
And the transition to cave-dwelling not humans with sonar was great! The plausible lead-up of these spelunkers getting lost somewhere deep in the earth with no orientatation and no hope of finding their way out is the perfect set up for the terror of stumbling into the domain of these undiscovered and unknown monsters.
And what monsters! Some evolutionary offshoot of our acnestors, but totally alien.
I can see nitpicking over sense of smell in a few key moments, but I wasn't thinking about that as I was crawling over the back of my chair.
― He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
i may be a jerk for saying this, but i think LVT is playing a cruel joke with the disabled actors in the kingdom. as he says in every episode, this is a place where we must "take the good ... with the evil." in the kingdom, christian good (as portrayed by the actors with downs syndrome) is simplistic and rather dull. evil, especially as portrayed by EH jaregard, is clever, fascinating and clearly the best thing about the show, the reason we watch.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link
So are we all agreed that Inland Empire is an extended metaphor for expanding consciousness through Transcendental Meditation?
― A++++++ would deal with again (Matt #2), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link
yes
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
I confess that I have not yet watched Inland Empire.
― He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
Love inland empire but really happy to see it place this low.
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
well, it's gotta be a metaphor for something
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
seeing Inland Empire at the Castro theater was one of the best/most intense theater-going experiences I've had as an adult
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
"this low"
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
well remember, jjj thinks "The Straight Story" is going to be #1
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
i think trying to interpret deciding whether this film is horror or not is just a headache i don't want or need.
― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:28 PM (2 years ago)
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
xxp - i think the cruel joke he is playing is that the smartest characters in the show (the ones with the most knowledge) have Downs Syndrome. i think it's more about LVT's misanthropy.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
inland empire was my first-thought-best-thought #3, and this seems like a pretty reasonable placement for it. scary as hell, but probably not most people's idea of a "horror movie".
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
Congrats, Eric, for resisting the image that is burned into so many retinas.
― The Thnig, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
lots of mine are showing up today, hoping this doesn't result in a barren top 20. especially happy to see black christmas (too low), possibly the highest rated straight-up unambiguous horror on my ballot(#4).
― second only to popcorn (or something), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
I don't even like horror movies and yet for some reason this is my favorite movie list thread. Amazing stills, lots of stuff I've never heard of.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:06 AM (8 minutes ago)
pretty sure it doesn't count because it was tv show and not a movie.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, i guess the question is how deliberately perverse we think he's being in his choices
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
Speaking of Kingdom, somebody tell me that Stephen King's remake was shit so I don't have to watch it. Thanks in advance.
― The Thnig, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
it's Lars Von Trier, i'd be surprised if any of his perverse choices weren't deliberate!
― sarahell, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
I chose one from 3 Pillbox submitted, and none of them were THAT image.
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
i'm happy just assuming it's shit. and that we won't see udo keir emerging from SPOILAR.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
Well, that's three of my top five (Inland Empire, The Tenant, and Creepshow) that have shown up thus far. One of the others will be a no-show, but I certainly hope my #1 at least cracked the top 20.
I guess I can understand people dismissing other Lynch films as horror, but dismissing IE just feels reactionary.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
there were a couple of movies I love that I voted for, despite their being on the borderline of horror
inland empire was one I just couldn't justify
movies that aren't scary can be horror films, so this is the converse example then - terrifying, but not necessarily a horror film
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
Will Wicker Man crack the top 20? I know we have an appointment, I just don't know what time it is.
― game of crones (La Lechera), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
i dismissed Inland Empire because for me, it was a literal snoozefest ... i did manage to see almost 2 hours of it though!
― sarahell, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
it doesn't count because it was tv show and not a movie.
nah, it was shown in theaters in 'Murrica, that's all that should count! Plus there's already been at least2 made-for-TV things, Threads and Duel.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
that said, I don't complain about IE's placement here and expect there is another lynch in our future
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
Inland Empire was the only Lynch film i really considered 'horror' enough to vote for and was my no.4, i think. I'd say it's comfortably my favourite American film of the last fifteen years, or so.
― Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think the second half of "The Descent" is that bad, but the first half is intense that when things go horror movie it seems totally unnecessary. One of those movies where the original ending is absolutely essential, and it also helps to have seen it in a dark theater with people, new ending or no.
I grew up watching "Freaks," never thought it was scary. And in fact, it wasn't even until much later in life that I even considered it at all exploitative, let alone controversial. The "freaks," as such, are so sweet and sympathetic. And when they're played for revenge scares, you get the feeling the freaks are themselves playing it up for effect. And damn does their victim deserve their vengeance.
Somehow never seen "Inland Empire," even though I've seen everything else by the guy!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
xp - i would've voted for the Kingdom had it been nominated.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
I completely lost interest in Lynch after "Lost Highway" and have seen nothing since. And the only things I really liked from that were Robert Loggia beating up the tailgater, and Robert Blake.
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:22 PM (23 seconds ago)
you missed the long debate about how TV movies are allowed, but not TV shows or miniseries
however, if salem's lot places....
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
I completely lost interest in Lynch after "Lost Highway"
High Five!
― sarahell, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, that's what i mean. sure, they seem to know a lot, but that only encourages us to speculate about how much they really understand (whether or not we wish to), draws attention to their relatively flat line readings. it seems a subtle barb aimed at the "simplicity" of goodness, relative to more entertainingly complex evil.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
i've made only one attempt to watch inland empire and barely made it a half hour before throwing up my hands in exasperation. fuckin' rabbits.
― judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
Lost Highway is garbage but Mulholland is good fun. You're missing out.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
xxp - or to speculate that "God is retarded"
― sarahell, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
inland empire much better in a theater where you are trapped for the duration, turning it off after 30 minutes is like ending yr shroom trip cuz yr stomach got upset
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
OTM
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link