Yes, when...what's her name (Lisa?) falls asleep in class.
I always forget Johnny Depp (blech) was in NOES!
― Pita Malört (Je55e), Monday, 21 May 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
BLECH???!?!????
― carl agatha, Monday, 21 May 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
Friendship over.
Although that Tonto bullshit going on now is pretty racist.
Okay, friendship back on.
No, blech in general, since I can remember. I hate seeing him. Except the aversion broke when I saw him in previews for Dark Shadows. I liked Edward Scissorhands, but that was IN SPITE OF Johnny Blech.
― Pita Malört (Je55e), Monday, 21 May 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
this thread isn't the place for it, but burton's dark shadows is so incredibly bad :(
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Monday, 21 May 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
That is disappointing yet feels inevitable.
Burton and Depp keep on Burtoning and Depping in...Dark Shadows!
― carl agatha, Monday, 21 May 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link
Depp has a cameo in Freddy's Dead, too.
― The Thnig, Monday, 21 May 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
I'm very disappointed that all I hear are bad things about that stupid movie. I'll get off the subject ITT now.
xp
― Pita Malört (Je55e), Monday, 21 May 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
<I>it also works because the ending is so, so dark that it makes you kind of go back over the rest of the movie and realize that it is just as dark, hidden under the tropes of a teen slasher camp movie. i mean, the whole movie is about children killing other children, adults joking around about wanting to sleep with children, and killing adults trying to sleep with children, but its done in this bizarre low budget campy almost silly tone.</I>
So wait, people are discussing it as sosodark because it's a kid rather than because of the genderswap? NB all I know of the film is it's Wikipedia page.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 21 May 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
many xps - The Ring is objectively better than Ringu IMHO.
so objectively better in your opinion?
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 21 May 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
Not to mention Roseanne and Tom Arnold, and Alice Cooper as Freddy's dad!
Really not a very good movie at all. The Breckin Meyer "death by videogames" sequence might've been the low point of the series.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 21 May 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
i too preferred the ring, guessing it'll show up right about...
― second only to popcorn (or something), Monday, 21 May 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
...balls.
― second only to popcorn (or something), Monday, 21 May 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
xxp Correct. My opinion = objectivity. It's a paradox, dealwithit.gif
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Monday, 21 May 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
i also prefer the american ring. #jingoism
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 21 May 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
did not vote for eithet, though. pulse is the only non-scatalogical sicko fest japanese film on my ballot i think.
I am a huuuge NOES fanatic. Craven was way anti-sequels but they made them anyway, and 2 was so campy and hilarious and bad (and also totally gay) that he was all "omg stop ok I'll work on 3", which he wrote the script for and is imo the second-best sequel (behind New Nightmare). 3 was the first film in which Freddy showed any humor and it p much went all downhill from there and by 6 he was a cartoon character without any wit or scariness. 6 is beyond abysmal btw. But yeah they all have really gnarly kill sequences (except for 6)
― a parker full of poseys (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 21 May 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link
I've watched ringu many times, the ring only once. the latter is good but iirc too slick and wants to make sure everything is explained.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 21 May 2012 23:31 (eleven years ago) link
^ i'm not sure that those things are faults, but i do like (not necessarily prefer, but enjoy) the rough and cryptic qualities of the original
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Monday, 21 May 2012 23:33 (eleven years ago) link
So, this day's reveal has my #3 (The Tenant), my #4 (Ringu), my #7 (Deep Red) and my #10 (Kairo/Pulse) and of all days that I follow this thread now, it was chock-full of all work no play for me, what a letdown.
Would have loved to repped for them as curiously enough they also seem to be one the least talked about entries yet. Wonder what that makes me (guy who destroys the natural order of your canon, i guess).
― the europan nikon is here (grauschleier), Monday, 21 May 2012 23:36 (eleven years ago) link
Add me to the liked the ring better than ringu camp as well
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 21 May 2012 23:36 (eleven years ago) link
Not going to have time for the last 2 on today's agenda until well after most people's bedtime (mine included), so tomorrow will be a 17-movie day.
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Monday, 21 May 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
So, this day's reveal has my #3 (The Tenant)
Welcome to the club!
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 21 May 2012 23:39 (eleven years ago) link
Nope, I'm saying it's dark because it's a semi-slapstick camp film that is actually all about terrible violence being perpetrated against children, and not post teen camp counselers but pre-teens. Also good lord people stop basing your movie interpretations off of Wikipedia plot summaries!
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 21 May 2012 23:41 (eleven years ago) link
on my ballot: the tenant, re-animator, the brood, an american werewolf in london and deep red
should have been: eyes without a face and a nightmare on elm street
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Monday, 21 May 2012 23:45 (eleven years ago) link
Re: Edward, I was just writing the same, I think of The Ring as a film entirely on rails in the scary spectrum, which equals to complete ennui for me. Although I can see why that would appeal to many, but on the contrast I absolutely love the melancholic matter-of-fact happenings in the original. It's gloomy, mournful atmosphere and especially the fact that the film seems to be out of pace sometime, for which is the thing that unsettles me the right way when done competent.
― the europan nikon is here (grauschleier), Monday, 21 May 2012 23:45 (eleven years ago) link
Only one or two films on here so far that I don't like, and even they I can defend, so I'd say good voting so far! Except jaws should have been top ten.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 May 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link
Also, if anyone wants to talk about The Tenant anymore, feel free to do so. Perhaps the only film on this list I would happily look forward to seeing it ten times and upwards in a row. So many (not necessarily frightening) great scenes, endless potential to discuss its ambiguities and Isabelle Adjani in a charming role diametrically opposed to that batshit one in Possession.
― the europan nikon is here (grauschleier), Monday, 21 May 2012 23:55 (eleven years ago) link
there are these weird little touches in ringu that I adore. like when the boy and his father encounter each on the rainy street and just stand there with their umbrellas staring at each other. the relationship between them hasn't been established by the film at this point, so it makes for this odd moment that becomes melancholic once you understand what's going on.
and the change from the pitiful, victimized sadako to the evil rage monster samara lessened the impact.
btw anyone seen the girl who played samara lately?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a5/Daveigh_Chase_LF_adjusted.jpg
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 00:21 (eleven years ago) link
*feels old*
interesting tidbit this IMO that i'll post while it's quiet. in a late 1990's docu on Channel 4 (UK) Mark Kermode goes on an anti censorship rant and makes the usual fair and valid points, but to elaborate on why 'horror films can't be made safe for everyone' and how we're not all scared by the same things etc, he shows a still from a Rupert The Bear annual. Ramsey Campbell ('Britain's most respected horror writer' - Oxford Companion To Horror) said the still was 'the most frightening thing (he'd) ever seen' and it had given him 'months of nightmares' as a child.
this is the picture (sorry its so small!)
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/579499_10150932792719273_813524272_9870125_1209256195_n.jpg
― piscesx, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 01:23 (eleven years ago) link
also, where's m.eily?!?
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Monday, May 21, 2012 8:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Hello! I was off in London at a show, so missed most of today. Voted for Eyes Without a Face, The Tenant and Ringu... think that's all, though I'm working off skimming this thread while drunk.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 01:39 (eleven years ago) link
We done for today?
― Mark Ruffalo! is gonna tell us! about empathy! (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 01:52 (eleven years ago) link
Ok just scrolled upn so nevermind. Sorry bout that.
― Mark Ruffalo! is gonna tell us! about empathy! (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 01:59 (eleven years ago) link
"All that stabby equipment, you'd think he was a TOM-inatrix!"
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7077/7242856764_e6d4196c55_o.jpg
42. PEEPING TOMMichael Powell, UK, 1960(392 points, 12 votes, 1 first-place vote)
it didnt look like england at all.― charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, February 2, 2005 7:24 AM (7 years ago)There is something about Peeping Tom that seems to me to be much more advanced, much more modern - the student half of me is wanting to say something about how it is at least partially because its psychology is more Lacanian than straight Freudian, but I think I may get beaten on for that.― emil.y, Saturday, June 5, 2010 10:38 AM (1 year ago) Splendid companion piece to Psycho. I saw it circa '88 at American Museum of the Moving Image, with Powell in attendance, and he was visibly moved at the ovation he received. There were also walkouts.― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, February 2, 2005 11:07 AM (7 years ago)
There is something about Peeping Tom that seems to me to be much more advanced, much more modern - the student half of me is wanting to say something about how it is at least partially because its psychology is more Lacanian than straight Freudian, but I think I may get beaten on for that.― emil.y, Saturday, June 5, 2010 10:38 AM (1 year ago)
Splendid companion piece to Psycho. I saw it circa '88 at American Museum of the Moving Image, with Powell in attendance, and he was visibly moved at the ovation he received. There were also walkouts.― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, February 2, 2005 11:07 AM (7 years ago)
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 12:34 (eleven years ago) link
aw that morbs anecdote about powell is so touching
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 12:38 (eleven years ago) link
"To Max SHRIEK I say: FANGS for the memories!"
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7223/7242925640_020415b0cc_o.jpg
41. NOSFERATUF.W. Murnau, Germany, 1922(417 points, 16 votes)
I think (Murnau's) better than Lang... his films have better plots, better dream sequences, lots of doors, shadows and so on. And Nosferatu is my favourite film ever, apart from Who Framed Roger Rabbit.― DV, Wednesday, January 30, 2002 7:00 PM (10 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkI like the idea of Who Framed Nosferatu?― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, January 30, 2002 7:00 PM (10 years ago)in nosferatu check how the count ALWAYS emerges into the frame from an unexpected place― mark s (mark s), Monday, December 9, 2002 7:25 AM (9 years ago)
I like the idea of Who Framed Nosferatu?― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, January 30, 2002 7:00 PM (10 years ago)
in nosferatu check how the count ALWAYS emerges into the frame from an unexpected place― mark s (mark s), Monday, December 9, 2002 7:25 AM (9 years ago)
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 12:48 (eleven years ago) link
So great that the unauthorized "Dracula" adaptation is better/more "faithful"/scarier than the actual Dracula movie.
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 12:54 (eleven years ago) link
Ach, totally forgot Peeping Tom. Would have definitely placed it at least mid-ballot.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 12:57 (eleven years ago) link
Voted for both of these - yes, my ballot is looking very canon indeed.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 13:02 (eleven years ago) link
Thought Peeping Tom had an outside shot at the Top 10.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 13:05 (eleven years ago) link
Nah, it's a classic, but I'm not that surprised that people didn't think of it when compiling.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 13:14 (eleven years ago) link
The image for Peeping Tom is really oog-inducing, but lovely in color!
― game of crones (La Lechera), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 13:22 (eleven years ago) link
On Ringu vs. Pulse, I voted for both of them, but Ringu was top 10 for me because it unnerved me in a way that very few movies have in my adult viewing life. The odd tone and pacing mentioned above is a big part of that, it has this lyrical, tragic side, plus also the tag-team investigator dynamics of the reporter and ex-husband. Its warmth makes its horror more horrific. (Whereas the chilliness -- emotional and meteorological -- of the remake blunts the scares, imo.)
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link
nosferatu too low, in my top 10, still unnerving almost 100 years after the fact
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link
I should see Ringu at some point, given how much I liked The Ring
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link
OMG we need someone to make a Japanese version of The Thing called Thingu.
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 13:52 (eleven years ago) link