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Shakey did the research I thought I was going to have to do :) I vaguely remembered this episode and wondered if it ad a similar storyline.

*tera, Monday, 21 May 2012 21:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

one of my favorite OST episodes, not least because of the ridiculously heavy-handed metaphor, which even so is less clunky than Kinsey's "Negron Complex" concept

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 21 May 2012 21:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think it's only happened a couple other times, but when Don and Joan are together just being Don and Joan it's one of the best parts of the series.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, May 21, 2012 5:28 AM (18 hours ago)

Oh yes, so nice that the two massively attractive TV characters can just talk, with barely a smidgen of will they/won't they (barely. And they won't).

it occurs to me that christina hendricks is a good actress.

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf

This occurred to me in the first season.

So many hearty laughs from the return of Kinsey - he's a Hari Krishna! He's written a spec episode for fucking Star Trek!

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 00:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm still a bit narky about the absolute ludicrousness of all English accents that pop up in this show.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 00:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

hendricks has taken a turn for the much better on the acting front this season

phooey and nuts and phooey (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 00:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

she's always been good. she's probably the best actor on the show with anything do do.

jed_, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 00:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

there are other good actors, like robert morse/bert cooper, but we don't see much of them.

jed_, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 00:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

btw i couldn't make out the note on joan's flowers.

jed_, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 00:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

They were from Don - "Your mother trained you well" or some such.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 00:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

signed, Ali khan

he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 01:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, at the bar she said something like "My mother trained me to be irresistible" or something like that.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 03:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

pretty great episode! everything about harry and kinsey was hilarious and sad.

kind of dreading any financial shenanigans plot bullshit going forward tho

goole, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 03:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

why so? seems pretty well motivated given what we know of lane's situation and character.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 03:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

So ARE they setting us up for Don and Joan having a thing? Or was this episode as far as they'll take it?

― America's Mobile, Monday, May 21, 2012 11:37 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i didnt get the impression they were implying this at all. the dialogue was more about don having a fight of self-determination v. fate iirc, & ends w him driving a car really really fast

i rewound that convo she & he had to rewatch to try to better understand their diff perspectives on the cheating spouse

littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 09:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

Is staying with the Hare Krishnas necessarily any better than heading off to LA and facing almost certain failure at being a scriptwriter? Dude seemed in a pretty vulnerable state and that's hardly going to help from what I can see. Peggy was probably OTM earlier in the episode.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 09:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

LA in the mid-late 60s -- so many more fun cults he could join!

sarahell, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 09:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

Is staying with the Hare Krishnas necessarily any better than heading off to LA and facing almost certain failure at being a scriptwriter?

yeah i can easily see kinsey panhandling on the streets of hollywood in a few years (or months). when his "screenwriting" ambitions turn up nothing, does he seem grounded enough to like get a job as a waiter or something?

he'll probably end up hanging out with charles manson and dennis wilson.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 09:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

peggy was great!

goole, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 13:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

That could be her in three years, so the smugness about Kinsey's downfall was nagl I thought.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

I just realized - he was the best Krishna recruiter ever because of his advertizing background!

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

What was it Peggy said? "If it doesn't come easy for him, then he shouldn't bother"? I thought that said a lot about her own attitude about work and her career.

Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

well the implication was if a script that bad didn't come easy then maybe he should try something else

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

i saw hare krishnas at the airport today for the first time in years! pretty cool.

♆ (gr8080), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 23:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

aside from the really charming joan and don love-in i found p. much everything else in this episode unconvincing. esp the hare krishna thing.

jed_, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 23:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

what does that mean 'unconvincing'

littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 23:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

what it always means!

jed_, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

the jaguar salesman was convincing

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

then why you smell of british sterling?

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

why are you being so condescending? oh wait, it's you. care to provide your flaky thoughts on the french cultural theorist du jour?

i love the world of intrigue this line effortlessly invokes

Mordy, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 01:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

talk about condensing.

jed_, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 01:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

um, condescending

jed_, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 01:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm just a pulpist

Mordy, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 01:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

jed-I agree...

*tera, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

i find that unconvincing

Mordy, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Hare Krishna storyline seemed a bit sloppy. Liked seeing Kinsey but...meh. I could see how he would be the type to go exploring cults and how subcultures appeal to that character but the show seems to try and incorporate too much pop culture at once this season. Or was I just annoyed with this episode.

*tera, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

given that the mid-60s was when pop culture REALLY went into overdrive, this seems entirely appropriate

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

They could've just found Kinsey in some storefront "cool" xtian church, but then we wouldn't have had the pleasure of his Krishna haircut.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

the theater and post-play argument between Don & Megan was awesome

sarahell, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

I guess my main question coming out of the episode was whether Don is throwing himself back into his work for good reasons (he really has been slacking, needs to focus) or bad reasons (Megan is too hard for him to deal with so he's gonna live at the office for six weeks). The fact that Megan was pushing him to try harder at work makes it a complicated question.

dmr, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think the joan dinner reminded him that there's more to live for than megan

jump them into a gang - into the absurd (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

also tooling around in a jag and megan freaking out with the spaghetti
he likes domesticity but is trying to determine how to balance his life now that megan isn't the constant.
tried making everything a playground, now will try to make his life a battlefield
dude has trouble with half measures

jump them into a gang - into the absurd (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

given that the mid-60s was when pop culture REALLY went into overdrive, this seems entirely appropriate
Yeah, this is true.....

*tera, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

megan is awesome you goon

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

xpost

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

I like Megan a whole lot more, her charm is diminishing.

*tera, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

Kinsey is such a pathetic Krishna lol

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

i liked the joke about him working at A&P.

tim machine (get bent), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 21:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

still cracking up every time I think of "there's an airplane here to see you."

s.clover, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 21:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, laughed so hard at that

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 21:10 (1 year ago) Permalink


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