THE MASTER (2012) P.T. Anderson's film on the origions of Scientology (sort of), Starring Philip Seymour Hoffman, Joaquin Phoenix, Amy Adams, and Laura Dern

is he making a boob out of sand?

how would you rate your overall health?

strrrong

Actually you know, what if the whole supposition has been a bit of a blind and it IS all about Hubbard/Parsons/Crowley rather than just Hubbard straight up? The time period is right given the look of the trailer, and it suits the title.

will lose my shit if there's a Parsons (or Crowley) analogue in this

amy adams as marjorie cameron???

http://www.johncoulthart.com/feuilleton/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/cameron.jpg

probably not tho!

radiohead's jonny greenwood is doing the score for this, for those who care about such things. i thought he did a fantastic job with both There Will Be Blood and Norwegian Wood.

was there ever a movie made about parsons? that entire story with the three of them is so bonkers

I thought the music in that trailer sounded very similar to Greenwood's TWBB score.

tbh i would watch this for the wrestling seamen alone #pvmic

i almost auditioned to be an extra in that scene!!!

gr8080, mind if I change the year in the thread title now that it has a 2012 release date?

by all means, and change this to 2013 while you're at it:

TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES MICHAEL BAY REBOOT (2014)

thanks!

sorry if that's an annoying habit, i just really hate the "anticipate" meme in movie thread titles

i almost auditioned to be an extra in that scene!!!

Jeez, man, you could have snuck in a 77 tattoo or something into the film and blown minds.

i saw a girl with a 77 tattoo on saturday!!

i came very close to asking if i could take a photo

Phoenix looks like he's aged 40 years and had a stroke in that. Someone in the comments says he should get an Oscar for the trailer alone.

why is this not at cannes? is it not finished? awesome trailer.

Via Deadline.com, speaking of Cannes:

The three films highlighted tonight will be released in succession this fall with The Master (starring Joaquin Phoenix in a return to films , Philip Seymour Hoffman and Amy Adams) involving a complex plot dealing with a scientology-related religion (and obviously destined for controversy) opening in October . Tonight’s presentation was more detailed but Deadline unveiled the first teaser earlier today....About four minutes were shown...None of these films were obviously easy to excerpt, and all look like works in progress although Weinstein told me The Master is nearly finished.

it is almost certainly not finished

xp

PTA cut the trailer together himself I think; we mention that yet?

it definitely has his touch.

Did anyone else read this thread title as "the MASTER P film on the origins of scientology..."

SP: Da Last Don

damn that looks good

wow, that's a great trailer

The trailer's intriguing, as is the Wes Anderson, and scientology's a great subject. I'll approach both films hoping for the best, but aware that, for me, they've never equaled Boogie Nights or Rushmore.

stoked

man I think There Will Be Blood is superior to Boogie Nights in every way

^^should go without saying but doesnt for some reason

yeah cracking trailer, very much like the very early There Will Be Blood one which was pretty much just the "Do you get envious.." spiel iirc.

Punch Drunk Love is still his out and out best IMO but i know it's uh.. divisive.

Many do. To me it's almost like the difference between Mean Streets and The Gangs of New York (roughly speaking--I'd much rather watch There Will Be Blood than The Gangs of New York).

I watched this like 5 times today. So excited. Pheonix is just pretty much amazing. In general.

BN is his best but its not an unassailable masterpiece, he'll make something better than it someday, i just keep waiting for his taste to catch up with his talent

how magnanimous of you

that trailer is absolutely astonishing

i agree with clemenza: boogie nights is the best thing he's done so far. not really a PT anderson fan on the whole, but i'm always interested in seeing what he's up to.

punch drunk and magnolia are both amazing to me. the others are good with TWBB as least good.

i think it's thought to be kinda corny round these parts to love magnolia though.

BN def my favorite.

magnolia has lots of good-to-great parts, but i was disappointed by the whole. feel the same about punch-drunk love, tbh. loved the first half, when it was hard to tell what was happening or where it was all heading, but i lost interest when it settled out into an offbeat romcom (not that i really have anything against offbeat romcoms). need to see there will be blood again.

the score ruined TWBB for me.

i'm always interested in seeing what he's up to

Same here. Whatever my assessment of each film, I really admire the way Anderson is always trying out new things--he's got the same restlessness that Altman had, although he's somewhat more careful, and I doubt, the financing of films being what it is today, he'll ever really have the chance to misfire the way Altman sometimes did. If I compare his career to Tarantino's--they both got on the map imitating Scorsese--I think Anderson has managed himself much, much better.

There Will Be Blood is very, very good but, after the initial awestruck viewing, subsequent viewings have had slightly diminishing returns (but only to the extent that I'm not all 'maybe the best film of the 21st Century!' like I was when I first saw it). I thought Punch-Drunk Love was decent on a first viewing but I've had almost the opposite experience, wherein it's only gotten better the more I've watched it and I really like it a lot now. Hard Eight/Sydney is great for what it is, which is just a super low-key little movie with a '70s vibe. It's been...maybe a decade since I saw Magnolia. I liked it a lot back then, but people change, so...who knows?

And, well, Boogie Nights is one of my absolute favorite movies, one of the few that never gets old or diminishes at all in my esteem. Anderson is an incredibly talented filmmaker and he's probably got me on his hook for life like he's Altman Mk. 2.

Ha, didn't even see your Altman comparison, clemenza. Not too much of a stretch, though, I guess.

the score ruined TWBB for me.

― jed_, Monday, May 21, 2012 10:06 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

they make far fewer films now though. scorsese was making about 6 films a decade in the 70s and 80s. altman was averaging out at more that one per year at that time.

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which is basically what you were saying, clemenza... sorry i misread your post.

Ha, didn't even see your Altman comparison, clemenza. Not too much of a stretch, though, I guess.

― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, May 21, 2012 4:15 PM (2 minutes ago)

he was Altman's "backup" director on A Prarie Home Companion

that got me doing a little googlin' and so i came across this delightful sentence:

Well that's an excellent question because we see people accidentally swallowing gasoline all the time, I mean it's a daily occurrence here in Utah and the important thing to know is that if you swallow gasoline and it goes down to your stomach, it's really not that big of a deal, other than you're going to be burping gasoline for about 24 hours, that's not real tasty, but it will keep going, it's not absorbed very well in your gut.

what are people doing in utah? siphoning gasoline, it turns out

just utah stuff

Loved this movie, I see it sometimes described as a buddy movie and I guess it sorta is

Utah has restrictive alcohol laws so if you find yourself with a hangover on Sunday morning, unleaded 87 might be the only buzz in town

Utah State Song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUA9FUTieKA

at its heart it's the "me and my bro goofing around" movie

― mh, Wednesday, April 1, 2020 10:00 AM (three years ago) bookmarkflaglink

I liked their relationship, just two guys who want to have adventures surrounded by a band of joyless pedants.

― lag∞n, Monday, October 1, 2012 6:23 AM (eleven years ago)

Laura Dern does some of the best acting that has ever been done in the one little scene where she quizzes PSH about the nonsense and he yells "what do you want from me, Helen!?" at her, and she turns away shattered

I saw this in the theatre with my mom. She’s really into salacious Scientology scandals and isn’t super into “high brow” film. Her paraphrased review: “I didn’t know it was just going to be about.. two guys being guys”

she gets it

I think it worked better as a metaphor for Scientology.. that way they can't complain about little errors in the details

And PSH's character was sympathetic at times, whereas Hubbard was a deluded pervert monster