Boces by Mercury Rev

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Picked up a single over the weekend from this album I had completely missed all those years ago, namely "Bronx Cheer" -- the US version, which logically enough has the B-sides from the UK "Something for Joey" single where the US "Something for Joey" single had other tracks entirely. The fact that the Rev released songs entitled "There's Spider Eggs In Bubbla Yhum" and "Pop Rocks + Soda = Kaboom" makes me so happy.

Found the rough audience video from their 1993 show at the Phoenix Festival that year; there's cleaner audio due to radio/B-side releases elsewhere but if you want to enjoy David Baker in full flight:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL94B5E81559DB82EF&feature=mh_lolz

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 May 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

havent listened to this stuff in aaaaaages but this was the only m-rev period i was into, i was also into marijuana at the time

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 21 May 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

Well there ya go.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 May 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

yeah these guys got really boring starting with deserters songs

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 21 May 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

Man, this revive got me to go listen to "Frittering" again, what a cool song. Never bothered with anything that didn't have D. Baker in the band, just seemed like a different beast.

grandavis, Monday, 21 May 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

It took me a while to appreciate See You On the Other Side in full but it and the Harmony Rockets album (and even Deserter's Songs, which I enjoy as a one-off as opposed to setting the tone for everything that followed) showed that even post-Baker there was a lot going on. Grasshopper's solo album in 1998 or so was also fun.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 May 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, maybe someday I'll get to them ...

grandavis, Monday, 21 May 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

I really like both of the Baker lps & his solo thing Shady. I think Boces was all recorded by the band in the same room at the same time as opposed to Yerself is Steam which i'd at least heard was mainly recorded one at a time with nobody having the same agenda. i think it might also benefit from having had the band play out several times before its recording which i think YIS didn't. Think YIS was more of an art project and Boces more of a band, from what I recall of reading things around the time it appeared and maybe the same things again since.

I thought Boces was a mental institute upstate in nNew york so may be remembering that wrong.

I finally managed to get several early live sets together over the last few years only to have the hard drive they were aon become inaccessible last year. It's now saying it needs formatting. Have hoped I'd be able to retrievwe contents but not had anywhereto transfer them to so not tried. & now hoping I haven't left it too late now.

Stevolende, Monday, 21 May 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

Ned OTM about the post-Baker stuff

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 21 May 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link

Shady is great! I really, really wish I could have found the interview I did with him when it came out -- he was a hilarious, friendly interviewee, would talk to him again any time.

Here's your real life Boces:

http://www.boces.org/wps/portal/BOCESofNYS

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

Ned are you stalking me? I got this album out this weekend for the first time in years.

I was gonna explain BOCES to ppl who have never lived in Upstate NY but I see he got there first.

They called the album BOCES bcuz IIRC they got some money out of the Educational Board to record the thing, can't recall how.

They have fangs, They have teeth! (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Monday, 21 May 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

Hahah had never heard that but that would hilarious. And I could see it! No stalking here, I was just startled to see that "Bronx Cheer" EP, and happy to get it! Great cover art of course, "Stereo Prophetic" was the tag on the spine for this one:

http://s.dsimg.com/image/R-796564-1159821810.jpeg

http://s.dsimg.com/image/R-796564-1164984592.jpeg

I should scan in the art on the CD itself.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

Oh yeah, reverse of the booklet/slip:

http://s.dsimg.com/image/R-796564-1164984612.jpeg

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link

I think I've got just about all the actual CD singles covering the first three albums aside from "The Hum is Coming From Her"/"So There" now. I don't have the actual "If You Want Me to Stay" single but I did end up with the Rough Trade Japan comp for the singles club with that on it so at least there's the B-side too.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

BOCES funded a lot of weird shit. They paid for my first comic - training on the printing press, clearly!

This album is such a time & place for me - ironically after I moved down to NYC (this year, make NYC a state!) It's so the sound of working the night shift at the record shop.

They have fangs, They have teeth! (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Monday, 21 May 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

hah, i love this record. i saw them play portsmouth on the tour and it remains the most comprehensively fucked musical episode i have ever witnessed ,it must have been in the final months of baker's tenure, no one could have endured that unbridled madness for long. i think at least three people were crying onstage.

cw, Monday, 21 May 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

The fact that the Rev released songs entitled "There's Spider Eggs In Bubbla Yhum" and "Pop Rocks + Soda = Kaboom" makes me so happy.

YES!

Great cover art of course

I had this & remember really digging the cover art as well - it was like a close-up photo of a bunch of balloons or lollypops iirc

Apartment of Evil (Pillbox), Monday, 21 May 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

it was boobs iirc

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 21 May 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

That was the album, "Bronx Cheer"'s cover is upthread a short distance.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 May 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

odd how their flawless visual aesthetic went wrong the moment they turned aor

cw, Monday, 21 May 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

^ otm (but i think you mean mor)

havent listened to this stuff in aaaaaages but this was the only m-rev period i was into, i was also into marijuana at the time

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, May 21, 2012 8:00 AM

Man, this revive got me to go listen to "Frittering" again, what a cool song. Never bothered with anything that didn't have D. Baker in the band, just seemed like a different beast.

― grandavis, Monday, May 21, 2012 8:40 AM

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that basically how I break it down to an extent. though i quite liked see you on the other side as a transitional piece, absent the noise blowouts, lysergic weirdness and rough humanity of the baker era, the softer & more refined pop-psyche explorations that came after didn't interest me much. at the time, the dropoff struck me as similar to whatever happened to stereolab post ETK.

saw them on tour for yrself is steam in 91 and chatted with david afterwards. seemed like a pretty cool guy.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Monday, 21 May 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

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there was only supposed to be that one part

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Monday, 21 May 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

This is such an important record to me. I see all its faults and yet it is still pretty close to a perfect cultural artifact in a personal sense. Even just looking at the cover is guaranteed to make me instantly 15% more happy and it's not because of the boobs.

/\ /\ Delete post (admrl), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

like

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

though i literally havent listened to this in at least 15 years

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

Listen to it!

/\ /\ Delete post (admrl), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

Boces and See You On The Other Side especially are my go-to albums of Mercury Rev's best output

'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 23:14 (eleven years ago) link

all true, but yrself is steam is better

nostormo, Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

"Bronx Cheer" = rule
later Mercury Rev = crap.

Poliopolice, Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

these days I actually think See You On the Other Side is the best

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

I like career midpoints, I've realized

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

Reflections from Mr. Baker

http://thequietus.com/articles/13628-mercury-rev-boces-anniversary-review

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 October 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link

ooh cool!

HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Friday, 18 October 2013 15:14 (ten years ago) link

would have YIS a few notches ahead of it now, but fuck me what a formative experience this record was

HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Friday, 18 October 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link

“'Trickle Down' was me trying to express what it was to be nervous.”

aye. might be my favourite track nowadays

HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Friday, 18 October 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link

I was thinking about doing a Pixies vs Mercury Rev poll a few weeks back but didn't have the time. I do think however that YIS/Boces might be a better one-two punch than SR/Doolittle

nypc blue (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 19 October 2013 11:31 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPQp_7U_4KQ

the band live at Phoenix, chemically enhanced?

Stevolende, Saturday, 19 October 2013 12:55 (ten years ago) link

six years pass...

It's on my Patreon -- and subscriber-only -- but I've just put up a transcription of an interview I did with Jonathan Donahue back after Boces was first released.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/31541916

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link

Think its pretty great ap0art from Girlfren.
1st lp by an active band as opposed to a bunch of individuals coming in to record over each other at different times.
& I do love the general sound, I think the Caribou Vibration Ensemble touch on something similar on the live lp that came out with Swim.
Wish there was more of it.
& I need to make sure that my early live sets are still on a usable hard drive.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 21:31 (four years ago) link

It's their best album imo. I love the unhinged creepiness of "Girlfren"

The World According To.... (Michael B), Thursday, 21 November 2019 13:03 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

speakin of the cover art for boces… does anyone know where its from?

syringemouth, Thursday, 27 October 2022 12:06 (one year ago) link

They never took down a Boces poster from the front window of my local record shop after it was released. Being about 12 at the time, always wondered what the hell it was, perhaps some kind of rave record

PaulTMA, Thursday, 27 October 2022 12:43 (one year ago) link


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