croup was giving the list lots of props between his criticisms actually!
no i wasn't
― da croupier, Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
while i enjoyed seeing you celebrate the indie guitar paradigm of 1995, I wouldn't say I was giving the list "props"
― da croupier, Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
you did call it "informed trolling"...which i assume is better than uninformed trolling
― man pipes blog (some dude), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
well yeah, whiney read the SPIN Alternative Record Guide as religiously as I did
― da croupier, Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
guys we're ruining this thread, can someone please save it and talk about the 'ondes martenot' some more
― man pipes blog (some dude), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
Well, croup, I thought it was kind/touching that you immediately recognized an important similarity in our upbringings that ultimately led me to produce something. Sorry, I accidentally took that as a compliment.
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
I am old enough to have read the Trouser Press list of Top 100 Guitarists at the end of the seventies so was unsurprised by this approach
― Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
you're the fuckin guy who put Skrillex, whose name will be as well-remembered in twenty years as Peter Lemongello's is now, on a list of "greatest guitarists" instead of at least two dozen actual good guitarists.
take it to the spin comments section, buddy
― flopson, Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
whiney you spend most days bashing and flaming your generation of fellow hipsters, then turn around and praise their decades-old canon while mindlessly bashing a few-decades-older canon in the same breath. if you're hurt when people point out the irony online, don't be a contradictory dick online.
― da croupier, Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
Old enough to remember Peter Lemongello too
― Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
found the trouser press list: http://trouserpress.com/magazine/blurbs/guitarists.html
― man pipes blog (some dude), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't see where you guys are getting the idea that I'm hurt/concerned/interested in anyone's criticism of the list except some dude's who's just been an especially sniveling, deej-poking brat about the whole thing.
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
i got the idea from your previous post
― da croupier, Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
when I thought you said something nice to me and then you came back to assure me you couldn't possibly have said something nice to me? maybe that's not about the list, dude
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
i'm sorry you think i 'turned on you' at some point in the last couple years, i guess you're going to lose the patience and respect of one or two people who've tried so hard to like you and get along with you on your glorious path to becoming the most banned poster in the history of the board.
― man pipes blog (some dude), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
Wow, much more old school than I had thought, I only remembered the Johnny Ramone and Lou Reed inclusions. Whiney really is breaking new ground
― Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
when I thought you said something nice to me and then you came back to assure me you couldn't possibly have said something nice to me?
ok now who's conflating the list and the writer
― da croupier, Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
hey, having mick jones, steve jones and verlaine on an 'all time' list within 24 months of their debut albums ain't bad for forward-thinking (xpost)
― man pipes blog (some dude), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
haven't read the thread yet but voted robert quine.
― get wolves (get bent), Saturday, 19 May 2012 19:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, somedude, I just looked a little closer and saw those others
― Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2012 19:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
I like this thread a lot even tho lol guitars
― Lamp, Saturday, 19 May 2012 19:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
tbf i did think the familiarity of the list was charming when i was just scanning & before i read the intro. and i could, can and have said something nice about whiney, just not his addiction to trollage.
― da croupier, Saturday, 19 May 2012 19:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
Fripp
― Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
Where the hell is Ted Falconi?Paul Westerberg?
― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
would take greg sage over both of those two
was helios creed on the list?
― Goodbye 20th Centipede (NickB), Saturday, 19 May 2012 21:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
― billstevejim, Saturday, 19 May 2012 21:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
Uncle Acid was robbed lmao
― billstevejim, Saturday, 19 May 2012 21:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
re: Jonny Greenwood I haven't heard anything else like his guitar in "Just" except for maybe "Paranoid Android"
― billstevejim, Saturday, 19 May 2012 21:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
I think some of his 90s guitar stuff was pretty inventive.
― billstevejim, Saturday, 19 May 2012 21:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah they were a good guitar band when that was their whole deal. he was their mike mccready!
― judas, a scary ho (some dude), Saturday, 19 May 2012 22:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
Between Nels Cline and John McLaughlin right now. The flawed and egalitarian McLaughlin would be ahead in the sheer chops department.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 19 May 2012 22:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
Fripp's up there too obv.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 19 May 2012 22:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
Voted McLaughlin in the end. Guy is just superhuman.
Despite my criticisms, btw, I do think it's pretty cool that Spin included people like Bailey, Branca, Sharrock, Ribot, Chadbourne on this list.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 20 May 2012 02:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
voted Ribot
― Darin, Sunday, 20 May 2012 02:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
I voted for Robert Fripp
― Iago Galdston, Sunday, 20 May 2012 03:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
xp Sonny Sharrock is in SPIN's favorite 90's albums also, which is essentially the reason why I know he exists.
― billstevejim, Sunday, 20 May 2012 05:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
anyway, this list is weird and very spin-like in various ways (admirable, sad, funny, etc). i'm not annoyed by any exclusions, cuz that seems to have been the point, and it's nice to see some love for sonny sharrock, eddie hazel, d boon and robert fripp on airport newsstands.
i voted for john fahey, which seems both way too easy and lol old man, but i've got about 20 albums by the dude that consist of little more than fingers and strings, and i never get tired of them/him.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Sunday, 20 May 2012 06:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
What this thread reminded me of: goddamn, I'm glad I don't have to rely on my opinions about music to put food on the table.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 20 May 2012 07:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
i've got about 20 albums by the dude that consist of little more than fingers and strings, and i never get tired of them/him.
I went to sleep to The Yellow Princess last night.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 20 May 2012 11:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
What else should I look for? (Have Womblife already.)
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 20 May 2012 12:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
― man pipes blog (some dude), Saturday, May 19, 2012
this post was already a lol but i invite everyone to read "ondes martenot" in a maurice chevallier voice.
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 20 May 2012 12:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ribot
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 20 May 2012 14:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
Derek Bailey
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Sunday, 20 May 2012 14:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
I would automatically disqualify ALL punks no matter how much they practiced. I'm voting Zappa in protest.
― โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Bulgarian Tourist Chamber (Mount Cleaners), Sunday, 20 May 2012 14:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
Neil
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Sunday, 20 May 2012 17:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ended up voting for Asheton.
― Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 20 May 2012 20:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 20 May 2012 20:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
i thought james williamson played lead guitar on raw power?
― flopson, Sunday, 20 May 2012 20:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
He did. Ronnie played bass. Is that what it says in the article?
― Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 20 May 2012 20:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
nnnnevermind
― flopson, Sunday, 20 May 2012 21:31 (1 year ago) Permalink