POLL: SPIN's Greatest Guitarists of All Time

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umm Dimebag is not a footnote at all

Buzzo, ok he introduced sludge to a bunch of indie rock dudes who were never going to hear about it otherwise, it's important that the sludge dude also be the indie dude

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 19 May 2012 15:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Buzzo's style was kind of low hanging fruit that was bound to be copped at some point in the late 80's/early 90's. Santiago influence seems much larger (as does Martsch in the following decade).

Darin, Saturday, 19 May 2012 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

and while Dimebag may not be a footnote, I don't hear much individuality in his style. maybe I'm wrong...

Darin, Saturday, 19 May 2012 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

ha yeah, santiago and martsch are major oversights in this list. both pretty major dudes in terms of the last 25 years of the guitar i'd say.

tylerw, Saturday, 19 May 2012 15:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Surprised Keith Rowe and Kevin Drumm aren't on the list.

Are you really surprised by this?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 19 May 2012 15:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

well the last 25 years of indie guitar, but yeah since that's what the list is

xpost

man pipes blog (some dude), Saturday, 19 May 2012 15:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Derek Bailey.

crüt, Saturday, 19 May 2012 15:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hendrix really is a criminal omission imo

crüt, Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hendrix and Sonic Youth together basically form the center of my personal guitar universe, so having one at #1 and the other completely excluded def doesn't sit right with me

man pipes blog (some dude), Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

my problem with this list is that they're trying to have it both ways by insisting that they celebrate these less famous dudes, but then still include trad guitar hero dudes like Zappa, Neil Young, McLaughlin, Iommi, The Edge, etc.

Darin, Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

voted dealwithit.gif

thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

you 'got the people talking,' that's what you wanted

man pipes blog (some dude), Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

whiney did you have like a 'voting process' or was it more of a 'hey guys who would you find it amusing to put on this list' process

thomp, Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Would honestly put Curt Kirkwood ahead of all of the other SST band dudes.

― Goodbye 20th Centipede (NickB), Saturday, 19 May 2012 11:21 (4 hours ago) Permalink

Absolutely.

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

some dude, your whole attitude about this has been really shitty and tiresome

thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

my attitude about this has been exactly the same as 30 other ppl on this board, take it personal if you want but be advised your favorite word "BUTTHURT!!!!!!!!" will be dispensed

man pipes blog (some dude), Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

those 30 other people post about it once and you post about it non-stop

thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Like if you're trying to deej me, i guess it worked? ("YAY HE <b>RESPONDED</b> ROFLOLOLOL")

thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's just patently untrue, lots of people have posted about this list as much or more than me

man pipes blog (some dude), Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

why don't you make me a list of them

thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Are you really surprised by this?

Legitimately surprised that Rowe isn't on the list; find it somewhat curious that Drumm isn't.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

whiney under your own 'say something nice too if you're gonna critique' rule i complimented the hell out of the guitarist infographic in the issue, sorry if that wasn't your baby and this 'lol skrillex' stunt was. but it's not like croup and aero and strongo and m@tt and elvis telecom were all giving you high fives for this and then i broke up the celebration.

man pipes blog (some dude), Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

croup was giving the list lots of props between his criticisms actually!

thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

omg shut UP.

They have fangs, They have teeth! (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Saturday, 19 May 2012 17:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Whiney if this list had been made by another magazine I bet you would have hated it and be on here complaining!

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 19 May 2012 17:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

But you voted eddie hazel so all is well!

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 19 May 2012 17:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

(Yes, I know I should have just quietly un-bookmarked the thread instead of complaining but I can't do that from my iPhone and you know, taste of your own medicine etc.)

They have fangs, They have teeth! (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Saturday, 19 May 2012 17:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

my problem with this list is that they're trying to have it both ways by insisting that they celebrate these less famous dudes, but then still include trad guitar hero dudes like Zappa, Neil Young, McLaughlin, Iommi, The Edge, etc.

that's because the list is about social positioning more than guitars. that group can figure on the list & still allow to list to throw a big middle finger at the big, bad boomers - "hey fuck you dad!!! I DIDN'T INCLUDE JIMI HENDRIX!!! Neil Young is way better anyway!!!" type o' deal

whiney save a dealwithit.gif card for yourself man, you're the fuckin guy who put Skrillex, whose name will be as well-remembered in twenty years as Peter Lemongello's is now, on a list of "greatest guitarists" instead of at least two dozen actual good guitarists. if you're going to troll for abuse at least be cool about getting what you paid for imo

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i mean he had to expect worse from the ilx peanut gallery than he's actually gotten, is my thing

man pipes blog (some dude), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

croup was giving the list lots of props between his criticisms actually!

no i wasn't

da croupier, Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

while i enjoyed seeing you celebrate the indie guitar paradigm of 1995, I wouldn't say I was giving the list "props"

da croupier, Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

you did call it "informed trolling"...which i assume is better than uninformed trolling

man pipes blog (some dude), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

well yeah, whiney read the SPIN Alternative Record Guide as religiously as I did

da croupier, Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

guys we're ruining this thread, can someone please save it and talk about the 'ondes martenot' some more

man pipes blog (some dude), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well, croup, I thought it was kind/touching that you immediately recognized an important similarity in our upbringings that ultimately led me to produce something. Sorry, I accidentally took that as a compliment.

thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

I am old enough to have read the Trouser Press list of Top 100 Guitarists at the end of the seventies so was unsurprised by this approach

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

you're the fuckin guy who put Skrillex, whose name will be as well-remembered in twenty years as Peter Lemongello's is now, on a list of "greatest guitarists" instead of at least two dozen actual good guitarists.

take it to the spin comments section, buddy

flopson, Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

whiney you spend most days bashing and flaming your generation of fellow hipsters, then turn around and praise their decades-old canon while mindlessly bashing a few-decades-older canon in the same breath. if you're hurt when people point out the irony online, don't be a contradictory dick online.

da croupier, Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Old enough to remember Peter Lemongello too

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

found the trouser press list: http://trouserpress.com/magazine/blurbs/guitarists.html

man pipes blog (some dude), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't see where you guys are getting the idea that I'm hurt/concerned/interested in anyone's criticism of the list except some dude's who's just been an especially sniveling, deej-poking brat about the whole thing.

thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

i got the idea from your previous post

da croupier, Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

when I thought you said something nice to me and then you came back to assure me you couldn't possibly have said something nice to me? maybe that's not about the list, dude

thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm sorry you think i 'turned on you' at some point in the last couple years, i guess you're going to lose the patience and respect of one or two people who've tried so hard to like you and get along with you on your glorious path to becoming the most banned poster in the history of the board.

man pipes blog (some dude), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wow, much more old school than I had thought, I only remembered the Johnny Ramone and Lou Reed inclusions. Whiney really is breaking new ground

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

when I thought you said something nice to me and then you came back to assure me you couldn't possibly have said something nice to me?

ok now who's conflating the list and the writer

da croupier, Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

hey, having mick jones, steve jones and verlaine on an 'all time' list within 24 months of their debut albums ain't bad for forward-thinking (xpost)

man pipes blog (some dude), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

haven't read the thread yet but voted robert quine.

get wolves (get bent), Saturday, 19 May 2012 19:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, somedude, I just looked a little closer and saw those others

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2012 19:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like this thread a lot even tho lol guitars

Lamp, Saturday, 19 May 2012 19:04 (2 years ago) Permalink


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