Throw out your arms for a new sound: The Boo Radleys - C'Mon Kids poll

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I got a promo of the album in advance of the release, I think I've played it twice or thereabouts. I did like the b-sides from then, though.

Does anybody else think Sice sounds like FMercury on the title track? (patticularly on "have we ever let you down?" (and, heck, on "See whatcha got" too)

Mark G, Friday, 18 May 2012 09:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's true - unless you've "opened the box" on their b-sides, you haven't properly checked this band.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Friday, 18 May 2012 09:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Shelter and Fortunate Sons felt like Sunday school attempts at rap.

There was definitely a trend for this in the late-'90s, indie bands doing this sub-Beck stuff with hip-hop beats, it never worked very well. 'Susan's House' by Eels for example.

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 18 May 2012 11:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

I can groove to Susan's House tbf, but yeah, it went hand in hand with indie bands employing a "DJ" to "scratch". hideous.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Friday, 18 May 2012 11:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Somehow I think they managed to get away with it... I hardly think the Boo Radleys believed they were ever trying to be 100% convincing at rapping.

Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

there is no rapping on "Fortunate Sons," it is more of a stab at trip hop or something along that nature. there is no attempt at rapping just some heavy distortion on part of the vocals and some really heavy beats.

Bee OK, Saturday, 19 May 2012 02:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Bit of a strange album, this one. There's something a bit cheesy about it in places. I like the title track. The best bit is Four Saints followed by New Brighton Promenade. I'm going to vote for the latter even though I think it's spoiled by the rock guitar that comes in.

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 19 May 2012 12:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Indie bands employing a 'DJ' to 'scratch' during live appearances on The Word. - Classic

my opinionation (Hamildan), Saturday, 19 May 2012 13:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Bullfrog Green. an incredible track, kinda spoiled by that last third of it. i'm convinced had it stayed like a pop song all the way through it could have been a single, a big hit and would be their 3rd best known song after Wake Up Boo and Lazarus.

piscesx, Saturday, 19 May 2012 15:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

.. oh there was a 7 inch that came with the vinyl too.

piscesx, Saturday, 19 May 2012 15:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is a great album. i don't understand the criticism for taking chances on most of the tracks. when they went backwards(traditional) on the next album it got a bit dull. that said i don't much like sice as a yeller, much better in a softer frame. c'mon kids vs eggman? i love the eggman album.

keythhtyek, Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

what is being flushed down the toilet in that picture upthread, is it the nineties

thomp, Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

so i re listened to most of this album on Friday. i was head over hills in love with it. i was trying to take it all in and see if the criticism of this thread was warranted.

"C'mon Kids" is a great opener, it kind of says we went through our Beatles stage on our last album and now lets turn up the guitars to 11. it starts off "C'mon Kids don't do yourself down, throw out your arms for a new sound."

not sure if "Meltin's Worm" is a good choice for the second song as it goes on some sort of psychedelic trip that sounds of base after such a crunchy beginning. ""Melodies for the Deaf (Colours for the Blind)"and the almost single of "Get on the Bus" get you in the proper mood for this album. "Everything Is Sorrow" is absolutely brilliant. the hate just builds up where Sice is screaming at the top of his lungs. than they go to "Bullfrog Green" to close out the side. one of the Boo Radleys best songs, but not even close to the best song on this album.

will do side two later, after another listen...

Bee OK, Sunday, 20 May 2012 01:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Bullfrog Green. an incredible track, kinda spoiled by that last third of it. i'm convinced had it stayed like a pop song all the way through it could have been a single, a big hit and would be their 3rd best known song after Wake Up Boo and Lazarus.

― piscesx, Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:19 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't think the last third of it spoils it all; I absolutely love it! I'm not convinced it would have been a pop hit in ANY form, though.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Sunday, 20 May 2012 05:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 21 May 2012 00:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

and now on to side two:

i always think of childhood exuberance when i hear "What's In the Box" as you just want to get to the good stuff when you are like 12 years old. i know the lyrics are saying something totally different. then you come to the center piece of this album "Four Saints" is my favorite song by the Boo Radleys. when he goes "I believe in Love" i just melt and than they follow that up with "New Brighton Promenade" which is fabulous. the next two songs are a major come down after those song and could be called filler. "Ride the Tiger" is cool but probably should not have been a single and "One Last Hurrah" is a great finish.

the Boo's fourth best album unless you include Learning To Walk than it drops down one more slot.

Bee OK, Monday, 21 May 2012 02:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love this album unreservedly and with no apologies. I am pretty sure that it is both a poke in Britpop's eye AND a love letter to it, I feel all the subtle experiments on the earlier records led to the loud ones here, and the anti-structure of a lot of the songs masks the extremely careful structure of the album itself.

But then again maybe I don't know a damned thing about this album or this group because I haven't ever heard the b-sides, or because I am from America.

@GracieLoPan #fyi (Display Name (this cannot be changed):), Monday, 21 May 2012 03:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

The single edit slaughtered Ride The Tiger. Bullfrog Green sounded great on the radio, the one time it was played on The Evening Session.

Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Monday, 21 May 2012 13:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

the Boo's fourth best album unless you include Learning To Walk than it drops down one more slot.

― Bee OK

I'm guessing you rate Giant Steps as the best (Only Geir doesn't) how would you rank the other albums?

Voted for New Brighton Promenade in the end, could have gone for Ride The Tiger, Everything is Sorrow, Four Saints or One Last Hurrah. Love this band.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 21 May 2012 14:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Agree that Bullfrog Green should have been a single. I like the psychedelic bit in that song but it feels a little tacked on. Ride The Tiger too - a good pop song that sounds like Carr wanted to 'weird up' and add some backwards shit in the middle 8. I love their weirdness, but on these tracks it sounds a bit forced. Not so much on Four Saints, which I'm glad is getting props here as I always thought I was alone in thinking of it as a highlight. If C'mon Kids had been full of tracks as effortlessly bizarre as this, it would have earnt its reputation as the most out-there Boos record. Speaking of which, I think it's a shame the band went to such lengths in covering up their little idiosyncrasies - editing the stranger bits out of their single versions and pretty much only releasing straight-up pop songs as A-sides (resulting in a skewed public perception of them as a happy clappy no-nonsense pop band).

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Monday, 21 May 2012 17:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

i am moderately fond of Giant Steps but had not heard this album, so this thread inspired me to listen to it. kinda wish i hadn't. voted for track 1 because it's all downhill from there.

some dude, Monday, 21 May 2012 17:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 00:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sad I missed this. Would've been a tough call between "Everything Is Sorrow" and "Bullfrog Green." Prefer Wake Up! and Kingsize as records but these songs are as experimental and successful as anything Martin Carr ever did.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 02:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

I remember we went to a 'preview' gig around this time. Arthur Baker was stood in front of us, seemed unusual at the time.

Mark G, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 06:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Two people think Meltin's Worm is the highlight of this record???

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 06:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm guessing you rate Giant Steps as the best (Only Geir doesn't) how would you rank the other albums?

i'm a huge fan and they are by far my favorite band of the 90's and i even own every single. i also have a slightly different order than probably most.

1. Kingsize
2. Giant Steps
3. Learning To Walk
4. Wake Up!
5. C'Mon Kids
6. Everything's Alright Forever

Bee OK, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 03:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

1= C'mon Kids
1= Kingsize
3= Giant Steps
3= Wake Up!
5. Everything's Alright Forever

Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 11:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

1. Giant Ste;s
2. Kingsize
3. C'mon Kids
4. Wake Up
5. Everything's Alright Forever
6. Learning To Walk
7. Ichabod & I

Looks like Kingsize should be the next album to get a poll. Really glad other people rate that album.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 13:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

1. Giant Steps
2. Kingsize
3. Everything's Alright Forever
4. Wake Up
5. Ichabod & I
6. C'mon Kids
7. Learning To Walk

Mark G, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 13:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 giant steps
2 everything's alright forever
3 wake up
4 c'mon kids
5 kingsize
6 learning to walk
7 ichbod & i

keythhtyek, Thursday, 24 May 2012 02:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

1. fuck off
2. you bollocks
3. stick the 90s
4. up your bollocks
5. fucking indie
6. wank
7. wank wank wank wank wank

ahhhhhhh shit here comes the motherfuckin thread cops (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 May 2012 02:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

ignore the troll

Bee OK, Thursday, 24 May 2012 02:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

anyways these list are interesting as everyone is having different opinions of what are the best album. Kingsize is interesting, when i was on the bravecaptain board it seems like a bunch of hard core fans really, really like that album. like the jewel of the Boo Radleys albums that casual fans seems to dismiss.

Bee OK, Thursday, 24 May 2012 02:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

can't believe i trolled another fucking indiestalgia poll

ahhhhhhh shit here comes the motherfuckin thread cops (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 May 2012 02:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

kingsize is pretty good, let down by containing their most wretched track "free huey"

ban halen (electricsound), Thursday, 24 May 2012 02:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

er, xpost

ban halen (electricsound), Thursday, 24 May 2012 02:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Kingsize prob the most Brave Captain-friendly album so

hard to disagree w/ NV's premise tbh

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Thursday, 24 May 2012 03:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

but every thread i see him post in it negitive.

this is ILM, it's a board to discuss music (iirc), if he is not interested in the thread than stay the fuck out.

Bee OK, Thursday, 24 May 2012 03:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

it it's

Bee OK, Thursday, 24 May 2012 03:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

.. and yet the brave captain himself was very ho-hum about the album

Mark G, Thursday, 24 May 2012 05:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's a bored, dying album by a bored, dying band. Giant Steps is the only full length I return to with any frequency.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 24 May 2012 07:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Kingsize-era Boos has some great ideas let down by some very precious songwriting. I feel that Carr's lyrics became increasingly insipid after Wake Up, to the point where most Brave Captain material makes me reel.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 24 May 2012 08:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

tbh, irrespective of my feelings about this shite, i crossed the line into boorish cuntiness and i'd like to apologise Mr OK

ahhhhhhh shit here comes the motherfuckin thread cops (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 May 2012 10:30 (2 years ago) Permalink


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