Worst Of These Mid-Late 90s UK Bands?

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I never got why Bluetones were so hated. Was it because they were seen as bandwagon hoppers?

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I once watched Stereophonics at Glastonbury, in one of the rainy years and around the 11am slot, and pretended not to hate them to curry favour with the girl I was with. While watching them she dismissed my very tentative advances. Thinking about it this may well be a definitive low point in my life

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I didn't know whether to put Embrace on it or not. All these bands were probably worse. I nearly put Placebo & Ash on.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Ocean Colour Scene. Special award to Sleeper's Louise Wener for being fucking irritating.

Neil S, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link

BLUE TONES - early warning of latent Thatcherism in belly of New Labour!

Also "Slight Return" was basically tonight Matthew we're going to be Aztec Camera.

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Bands who I like to some extent:
Catatonia
Gene
Travis
Longpigs

Bands who are just there:
Cast
Dodgy
Sleeper
Menswear
Gomez
Kula Shaker
3 Colours Red
Space
Supernaturals

Bands who actively suck:

Ocean Colour Scene
Stereophonics (though Dakota was agreat single)
Cast
Reef
Seahorses
Shed 7

Reef are the worst of that last bunch, they don't even have decent haircuts.

Billy Dods, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I never got why Bluetones were so hated. Was it because they were seen as bandwagon hoppers?
Nah, I think it was cos of the records. Also, I saw them twice in '95 and they were fucking terrible.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link

3 Colours Red should really be in a different 'Britrock' poll, which I'm considering doing but for the fact that the bands that would feature don't get enough recognition on ILM

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link

"You don't have to have the solution You've just got to understand the problem"

Fit this lyric in a song. No, that does not fit.

Mark G, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link

It's not fit either.

Octopus and Heavy Stereo fan will be disappointed with this list.

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.absoluteagogo.com/ultrapromo.jpg

Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link

3 Colours Red should really be in a different 'Britrock' poll, which I'm considering doing but for the fact that the bands that would feature don't get enough recognition on ILM

Do it!

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Perfume, anyone? And how could we forget Northern Uproar? Or Hurricane #1?

Neil S, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link

lol Hurricane #1 were a particular hate of mine cos I was a big Ride fan pre-Britpop.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link

I've listened to The Bluetones several times over the last year, having not listened to them for about 8-10 years prior, and they're actually alright. Good guitarist, good drummer, by the second album actually doing some quite interesting not-Britpop-at-all-really things.

Gomez's first album was alright; again, not really Britpop. More Beck goes proper blues. I guess they were seen as "inauthentic student scum" though. One of their later albums, forget the title, is really good, very eclectic, great production, electronics and brass and pop hooks.

Embrace and Ash I guess both survived way beyond Britpop and kept knocking out charting singles for years afterwards.

Travis' first album was actually pretty good, when they still rocked a bit.

Longpigs had about three great singles on the first album. A mate swears blind the second album is a lost classic.

Shed 7 at least had some decent singles, Dolphin and a handful off the second record.

Homegrown by Dodgy is, I'd say, a pretty classic Britpop record; embodies a lot of the spirit of that without the nastiness, sounds very of its time rather than being totally retro, still hasn't dated that badly, great production, some awesome arrangements. Shame Free Peace Sweet is FUCKING HORRIFIC.

Kula Shaker amusingly goofy until nazi breakout.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Space are the most obnoxiously scouse act in history. And obnoxious scouse <<<<<<<<< obnoxious any other region.

ledge, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Space were fucking horrific. OCS fucking horrific and sneeringly unpleasant and snobbish too. Catatonia uergh uergh uergh.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link

3 Colours Red should really be in a different 'Britrock' poll, which I'm considering doing but for the fact that the bands that would feature don't get enough recognition on ILM

Do it!

-- Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:28 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Would vote in this poll too, FWIW.

Neil S, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Why do the Britishes hate Sleeper so much? Granted, their presence in the US was small, but everyone who knew who they were kind of liked them.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Louise Wener's horrific media persona, at a guess.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

"Where is Silver Sun useless straight-to-MVE band?"

Everything else they ever did is pretty useless but Lava is better than anything by anyone on this list.

(but don't listen to me, I still have way too many AC Acoustics records)

Where is awful Feeder band, or is that one for the 3CR Britrock poll?

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I think you had to have read interviews with the singer in MM, NME etc to feel the tr00 hate. She was pretty obnoxious to say the least.

Pashmina, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I still like Gene. No guilt.

ledge, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I liked Sleeper when I first heard Delicious at the indie disco, I still have that one. But yeah subsequently became annoying extremely quickly.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Her voice sounds like her challops too, which doesn't help.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link

That "Alice" 7" is still one of my favorite singles ever.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link

This is quite hard, but the Sterophonics trump it for still turning up to bother me on occasion.

chap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Bands who have something, however tiny, that makes me not utterly despise them: Dodgy, Gene, Longpigs, Travis, Seahorses at a long stretch.

Scum de la scum: 3-way tie between Kula Kubes, Ocean Colour Scone and Space. I'm legally obliged not to vote for Space so I think I'm gonna vote OCS for not only being shit above and beyond but for simultaneously invoking the smug twattery of Paul Weller and Chris Evans.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Ocean Duller Scene

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

lol Hurricane #1 were a particular hate of mine cos I was a big Ride fan pre-Britpop.

I fell asleep standing up at a Hurricane #1 gig. according to my mates I was actually snoring!

Grandpont Genie, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Her voice sounds like her challops too, which doesn't help.

Very true. I'm shuddering thinking of her.

I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

http://vu.morrissey-solo.com/sleeper/2000/news/040527.jpg

One of the big problems with Sleeper was that this was the kind of malnourished, chicken-in-a-basket breast & thighs, 14-year-old boy with a vagina aesthetic that passed for sexy in the Britpop years.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Urgh, please mark thread NSFW

I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Top three acts my sister and I loved to hate come their appearance on The Chart Show: OCS, Weller, Northern Uproar

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link

A lot of these bands came around as I was at an entry-level point in listening to music, and did most of that via Radio 1 in the evening, so the only bands on here I can honestly say I NEVER enjoyed AT ALL, not even one song aged 14, are OCS, Stereophonics, Gomez, Kula Shaker, Travis and Supernaturals. I'm lowering the bar here to, let's say "lol blind cobbler's thumbs"

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link

The Stereophonics?

Save for their "Dakota" which I still like, and "The bartender" for that crash crash intro and sounding like (it should have been recorded and sung much better by) the Sex Pistols...

... yeah.

Mark G, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Now I'm thinking maybe I should've voted for Travis.

chap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Why does everyone talk about the mid nineties all the time?

Free Peace Sweet!, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

I give Travis a bye cause they dissed Oasis in Writing to Reach You.

ledge, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I still sort of love "Local Boy in the Photograph" but luckily "Mr Writer" was bad enough to render them permanent war criminals.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I hated Sleeper when I had to see them in the music press every week, but I probably wouldn't be too bothered either way by the first few singles now, I thought a couple of them were a'right before I'd read anything about the band. At the time Space and Gomez made me most angry but I think now it's got to be Reef or the Stereophonics. Helps that I don't remember anything Gomez recorded.

There is no Echobelly or Tiny Monroe, for I suppose fairly obvious similar reasons.

(Though NV's post reminds me that maybe OCS deserve it for being the first band to be quite so blatant about removing any hints, however slight they were already, of FUN or LOUD or pretending to sound slightly NEW in favour of total Weller-worshipping drear, thus paving the way for Travis or the Stereophonics to ditch their dirgier rockier beginnings for utter ear-sandpapering ubiquity, or... something)

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Why does everyone talk about the mid nineties all the time?

-- Free Peace Sweet!, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:52 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

We miss Enrique.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.mojoko.com/tutorial/candle/candle.jpg

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Someone please do a US equivalent poll.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Enrique is really into Photek. He's made 1998 last 10 years. This year being the last month of 1998 he's a little concerned about what '99 will bring.

Free Peace Sweet!, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I hated Sleeper when I had to see them in the music press every week, but I probably wouldn't be too bothered either way by the first few singles now, I thought a couple of them were a'right before I'd read anything about the band. At the time Space and Gomez made me most angry but I think now it's got to be Reef or the Stereophonics. Helps that I don't remember anything Gomez recorded.

I suppose that a lot of the hate on my part just comes from them and the other bands above being "NME music" and it was the media ubiquity rather than the music itself that was the problem. Now that I don't work in a record store or listen to the radio I never have to hear these bands again, and if I did accidentally hear them it probably wouldn't bother me that much

But at the time they were pure audio evil

I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Her voice sounds like her challops too, which doesn't help.

what does this mean?

braveclub, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

US equiv is, what, Everclear and bands like that?

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Pavement

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link

ok everyone probably thinks of this as old news and I'm not the Anglophile I used to be, so could someone please explain/point me towards the Nazi outburst from KulaShaker because this is the first time I've heard of it and it explains so much about why ppl loathe them

HI DERE, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link

mind you, the worst singing in that clip is the drummer

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 October 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha the chorus on that Glastonbury link is still fucking hysterical

a misunderstanding of Hip-Hop and contracts (HI DERE), Friday, 2 October 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah and the worst part is by the drummer. I thought it was chris helme until i realised he had stopped and it was the drummer who was even more out of tune.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 October 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link

hahaha I am having the exact same reaction I had the first time I played this; WHY IS IT STILL GOING

a misunderstanding of Hip-Hop and contracts (HI DERE), Friday, 2 October 2009 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link

so you can hear the solo!!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 October 2009 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link

The drummer out of Space died recently, i think. (he was the Teardrops anecdote guy wasn't he?)
heard Catatonia's Road Rage on the radio today, somewhat surprisingly.

j.o.n.a, Friday, 2 October 2009 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link

who on earth was playing that?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 October 2009 23:34 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

every now and then I stumble across or search out this thread and listen to that wretched Seahorses video

it is always hilarious, and then tedious

do not wake the dragon (DJP), Thursday, 20 October 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

you talking about ilx?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 20 October 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

four years pass...

every now and then I stumble across or search out this thread and listen to that wretched Seahorses video

it is always hilarious, and then tedious

― do not wake the dragon (DJP), Thursday, October 20, 2011 3:56 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

me OTM

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 12 May 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link

link? fucked if I'm going through this whole thread

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Thursday, 12 May 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link

Some quality vocals there

real orgone kid (NickB), Thursday, 12 May 2016 21:36 (seven years ago) link

Not sure i've ever actually heard some of those notes before?

real orgone kid (NickB), Thursday, 12 May 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link

Oh god, this shit again!?!

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Thursday, 12 May 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link

'Tis the season!

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 12 May 2016 21:46 (seven years ago) link


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