what were you listening to at 15?

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Peter Gabriel
Neil Young (I discovered Decade at 15, that's a year's worth of listening right there)
and lamentably, I went through a Zappa phase at 15

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha, Johnny Fever was watching "120 Minutes" while I was watching "Headbanger's Ball". Maybe if my mom had had cable, my tastes would've been different. As it was, I only saw MTV when I visited my dad on the weekends.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link

1995:
Primus
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Beck
Nine Inch Nails
Ministry
Beastie Boys
Porno For Pyros
Faith No More
Korn (ugh...)


Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Prodigy, Doc Scott, The House Crew, Altern 8, Jonny L, 808 State, New Order, Seal, Sunscreem, Senser, Stereo MCs, Depeche Mode, U2, Blur, Therapy?, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots, INXS, Metallica, Guns n' Roses, RHCP, Smashing Pumpkins

didn't really get back into hip-hop until the following year

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Senser! me too!

eat my replacement (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link

hardcore, thrash metal, and hip hop.

- (smile), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Also -- "Encendedor" is quite possibly my favorite 90's album. Props to you for listing it.

I haven't listened to it in years! I found it quite accidentally at the public library, of all places, and copied it to a cassette, which is now sitting somewhere in my closet. But yeah, good album!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Blur
Pulp
Tricky
Portishead
Biohazard (gosh)
Chili Peppers
RATM
Soundgarden
Pearl Jam
Nirvana
Terrorvision
The Flying Medallions (a totally forgotten London band who effectively got me into punk rock, less through their own songs than by covering the Descendents on their album)

DJ Mencap0))), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha, am I the oldest poster so far?

1973, the year of Dark Side of the Moon. Also:

Nitty Gritty Dirt Band ("Will the Circle be Unbroken"), Dan Hicks and the Hot Licks, Seatrain, Fleetwood Mac ("Mystery To Me"), Ten Years After, King Crimson, Mike Oldfield, Cockney Rebel.

Daniel Peterson (polkaholic), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link

97/98

sex pistols
underworld
atari teenage riot
chemical brothers
kmfdm
roni size
daft punk
air
dead kennedys
aphex twin
front 242

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Daniel, you're just the most distinguished! i was feeling a bit old too - 15 in 1986.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 20:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Miami Bass

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 20:02 (eighteen years ago) link

(mentally checks 15 yo self's tape collection)
the Beatles, the Ramones, Black Flag's "Damaged" b/w Husker Du's "Flip Your Wig", the Replacements, Digital Underground's debut, U2, REM, the Pogues, Camper Van Beethoven, the Smiths, De La Soul, Public Enemy, Tom Waits...

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link

At 15 (2000) I'd only just become seriously interested in music, and my taste was Radiohead-centric. I was largely going off what the Radiohead fans I perceived as cooler recommended online and that meant DJ Shadow, Mogwai, Godspeed You Black Emperor!, Sigur Ros, Grandaddy, Tortoise, Bjork, Aphex Twin, The Flaming Lips, Do Make Say Think etc. "IDM" and "post-rock" were the chief genres of interest, but I was always more interested in the latter.

Ogmor Roundtrouser (Ogmor Roundtrouser), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link

1993

NIN
Ministry
KMFDM
Depeche Mode
New Order
the Cure
They Might be Giants
U2
Gang of Four

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 20:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Whatever was popular on the country charts at the time.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 20:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Focus, Hamburger Concerto
Wishbone Ash, There's the Rub
Yes, Relayer
Man, Back into the Future
Van der Graaf Generator, Godbluff
Black Sabbath, Sabotage
Wonky tapes of Alan Freeman's Saturday afternoon Radio One programme complete with his hyperbolic intros over classical excerpts recorded on an iffy Bush cassette recorder that was my pride and joy. I used to write in regularly asking for Focus but he never played my requests.

Ranking Rupert (Ranking Rupert), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link

1995

Matthew Sweet! The Lemonheads!
Weezer -- DGC Rarities / No Alternative -- Frank Black, Pixies, Breeders, Flaming Lips, Smiths, New Order, Beastie Boys, Blur, Helmet

Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link

1986

Not much at *all* -- this was a dry gulch year for me in all respects. 1981-1985 was my pop radio time of fascination, very end of 1987 was when I got a first proper stereo system all for myself (even if a Fisher all-in-one ;-) ) followed by a CD player. I think all I bought this year was Sgt. Pepper's and Red Wave, and the only radio hits I remember from the year with clarity were "Addicted to Love," "Rock Me Amadeus" and of course the Pet Shop Boys. Klymaxx's horribly gloopy "I Miss You" literally made me stop listening to Top 40, I remember that much.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I had just discovered punk rock, thanks to a couple of borrowed cassettes from an older friend. Basically, I was listening and relistening to the first Ramones album, the Clash, the soundtrack to The Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle (as a 15-year-old, I though Friggin' in the Riggin' was the greatest song of all time) and the Forgotten Rebels.

BanjoMania (Brilhante), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

My 15 yr old record collection (1985) was almost entirely metal and punk.

Black Flag
Ozzy
Fear
Motley Crue
Flipper
Led Zeppelin
Circle Jerks
Iron Maiden
Minor Threat

darin (darin), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 20:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Me, 1985, too, but different:
The Uptones
Tones on Tail
Fishbone
Egyptian Lover
Tears for Fears (the hurting)
Yaz (upstairs at Erics)
Violent Femmes
Suicidal Tendencies
Generation X
Haircut 100
Jean Michel Jarre
Laurie Anderson

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link

(x-post) Rupert, good God!! I had all of those records too, save the Man one. But "Back Into The Future" made me think of "Remember The Future" by Nektar. On an 8-track. In my best friend's '64 Chevy Impala. Underage drinking. Ahhhh, 1973....

Daniel Peterson (polkaholic), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Despite my Britpop indoctrination by the NME, I still refused to give up on Nirvana.

Let's see, I turned 15 in Nov 95, so...

Oasis - Definitely Maybe, What's The Story (oh dear)
Blur - Great Escape (oh dear)
Supergrass - I Should Coco
Black Grape - It's Great When You're Straight
Teenage Fanclub - Grand Prix
Radiohead - The Bends
REM - Monster, Automatic, New Adventures
Manic Street Preachers - Everything Must Go

15 was a key year now I think of it. I think the Bends and REM definitely brought me into indie-rock pastures and away from Britpop. And then during summer '96 Dancing In The Street aired, which meant I heard the Velvet Underground for the first time. This, and getting Odelay for my 16th birthday, really opened things up.

Stew (stew s), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 21:14 (eighteen years ago) link

1983-1984


circle jerks
dead kennedys
bad religion
crass
rudimentary peni
ssd
youth brigade
7 seconds
subhumans (uk)
x
buzzcocks
husker du
specials
selector
8 eyed spy
yaz
bauhaus
velvet underground
whodini
fat boys
kurtis blow
run dmc
joy division
new order
bronski beat
bow wow wow
echo & the bunnymen
stranglers
the jam

and other stuff. and whatever was on the radio. i turned 16 in october of 84, so some of this stuff i might have been listening to after my 16th birthday. i do remember that i listened to husker du all night ON my 16th birthday, drunk and alone in my dorm room at the bad boy's school that my parents had shipped me away to.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Fifteen? Let's see, that would've been October, 1982. My favorite ablums would have been.....

Concrete by 999 (I was inexplicably obsessed...pardon the pun...with this record)
Generation X by Generation X....older by a few years, but I bought it at the same time as the 999 record
Give the People What they Want by the Kinks
Joe's Garage Act I by Frank Zappa
The Number of the Beast by Iron Maiden
Fire of Unknown Origin by Blue Oyster Cult
Oh No! It's Devo by Devo
Wild in the Streets by the Circle Jerks
Stukas Over Disneyland by the Dickies
Troops of Tomorrow by The Exploited
Let Them Eat Jellybeans by various artists (Alternative Tentacles)
Ghost in the Machine by the Police
Rio by Duran Duran

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link

"i do remember that i listened to husker du all night ON my 16th birthday, drunk and alone in my dorm room at the bad boy's school that my parents had shipped me away to." - why couldn't this have been my story?

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link

The Stooges

also, richard hell, the velvet underground, and random punk rock and elephant six-ish indie pop

matlews, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I should also add that at 15 I was an avid listener to the old Mark Radcliffe show on Radio 1 at 10pm. Those were the days...

Stew (stew s), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link

another voice heard from 73

Dark Side of the Moon Pink Floyd
Live at Fillmore East
Brothers and Sisters
Eat A Peach
Idelwild South Allman Brothers Band
Hot Rocks Rolling Stones
Mott
All The Young Dudes Mott the Hoople
Houses of the Holy Led Zeppelin
Marshall Tucker Band
Aerosmith
Alladin Sane David Bowie esp "Panic in Detroit"
Live Dates Wishbone Ash
American Beauty Grateful Dead
Quadrophenia The Who

lots of Sly, Spinners and O Jays on AM radio

I remember being slightly obsessed w/the New York Dolls debut but the cover scared me away from buying it!

m coleman (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 21:56 (eighteen years ago) link

x-post) Rupert, good God!!
Heheh! I don't think I had any Nektar records though I remember flicking through the sleeves in Middle Earth Records, Sunderland. I think you're maybe a couple of years ahead of me (I was 15 in 1975). And had better taste at 15.

My Rush infatuation was just around the corner.

(It's my latent Catholic urge to confess.)

Ranking Rupert (Ranking Rupert), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 22:14 (eighteen years ago) link

And had better taste at 15

I meant you (Daniel) did.

Ranking Rupert (Ranking Rupert), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 22:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Lipstick On Your Collar - The Saints
Know Your Product - The Saints
Fun - The Thought Criminals
Monday Morning Gunk - Radio Birdman
Prefab Heart - The Reels
Jet Boy Jet Girl - Elton Motello
Love Is Like Oxygen - The Sweet
Sheer Heart Attack - Queen
The B52s
Low - David Bowie
T Rex
Space Ritual - Hawkwind
Red Queen to Gryphon 3
My Sex - Ultravox
Slow Motion - Ultravox
New Rose - The Damned
Watching The Detectives - Elvis Costello
Hammer Horror- Kate Bush
I See Red - Split Enz
The Modern Dance - Pere Ubu
This Is Pop - XTC
Jet Boy Jet Girl - Elton Motello
TVOD/Warm Leatherette - The Normal
I Feel Love - Donna Summer
Trans Europe Express - Kraftwerk
Shot By Both Sides - Magazine
She's Lost Control - Joy Division
Lucky Number - Lene Lovich
Pop Muzik - M
Death Disco - PIL
Rock Around The Clock - Telex
154 - Wire
Don't Throw Ashtrays At Me - Swell Maps
Money Flying - Lizards
Are Friends Electric? - Tubeway Army
Dream Baby Dream - Suicide

Telegram Sam, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Joy Division
New Order
The Cure
Killing Joke
Dexys
The Chameleons
Dead Kennedys
The Specials
Depeche Mode
Bauhaus
Sisters Of Mercy
Theatre of Hate

Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Hmm, between October 2001 and October 2002, I think I was just getting out of listening to Joy Division at that time, wasn't listening to Cocteau Twins so much, and I couldn't really afford to buy much music at the time as I had no job. I was listening to The Cure's Faith and Pornography and The Durutti Column's LC and Another Setting a lot that winter. I came across WFMU in June and really started getting obsessed with all the Factory rarities I had read about but never had a chance to listen to (and I acquired Crispy Ambulance's The Plateau Phase immediately after vaguely recalling hearing the initial LTM CD issue of it when I was little), and I was also getting into 99/Y/On-U-Sound Records-related music as well, like The Pop Group, ESG, Liquid Liquid, Glenn Branca, Vivien Goldman, The New Age Steppers, Singers and Players, and so forth. Very formative year for me, I must say!

Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 23:24 (eighteen years ago) link

1985
Art of Noise
Gilles Peterson / Jazz Juice 1
James Brown
Rockabilly /50s
Streetsounds electro comps
Matt Bianco
Bauhaus
Echo & the Bunnymen
Django Rheinhard
Bill Broonzy

I was very into music but was teased for basically having advanced tatses for my age (due to cool parents and sisters)

Windy Miller, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 23:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow, I'm not as interesting as the people who were listening to Joy Division, Circle Jerks, Echo & the Bunnymen as a sperm...

For me, the Smashing Pumpkins had pretty much taken over my life, and I listened to Dark Side of the Moon almost every night before I went to bed. Also, I loved CCR, and didn't know music got much better than Live's Throwing Copper, Dookie, Weezer, and KISS: MTV Unplugged.

PB, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

PJ Harvey Rid of Me, REM Automatic for the People, Smashing Pumpkins Siamese Dream, Breeders, Juliana Hatfield Three, They Might Be Giants, Cranberries first album, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Helmet. I think that was when I had a copy of Dark Side of the Moon, but I didn't like it.

How much of everyone's tastes then was heavily influenced by what was available in the "Alternative" section of those music clubs?

daria g (daria g), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 00:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Ooh, fuck, I forgot Throwing Muses - The Real Ramona and Belly - Star and King.

Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 01:02 (eighteen years ago) link

1986 / 87
Woodentops - Giant
Public Enemy - Yo! Bum Rush the Show
Revolting Cocks - Big Sexy Land
Ministry - Twitch
Billy Bragg - Talking with the Taxman...
Cure
Smiths
R.E.M.
Husker Du
10,000 Maniacs - In My Tribe
Adrien Belew's band the Bears
Sinead O'Connor
XTC - Skylarking
They Might be Giants
Love and Rockets
Pastels
fIREHOSE

oh, man...i could just go on and on. this was right smack at the peak of OCD record/tape buying.

john'n'chicago, Wednesday, 6 July 2005 01:23 (eighteen years ago) link

1974. Uh, King Crimson, Genesis, Steely Dan, Jethro Tull. Joni Mitchell. James Brown. Cat Stevens, Carly Simon. Nilsson. Yes. Steppenwolf, the Allman Brothers, Marshall Tucker. Jimmy Buffett. Wings. Badfinger. Hendrix. And shit that was on the radio--the Spinners I liked a lot. America. Neil Young. Floyd (Pink not Cramer). In short, I was a typically deluded little consumer, groovin' to "Thick as a Brick" and aware of but uninterested in all the great soul and r&b records I now pay big dollars for. Didn't really get with it until I went to college in '76 and discovered Eno, Roxy, Beefheart, Velvets, Mott, Big Star, etc.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 01:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Bjork
Portishead
Rage against the machine
Fugees
Fiona Apple
Nirvana
Smashing Pumpkins
Skunk Anansie
...

Sami (Sami), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 02:06 (eighteen years ago) link

mostly australian stuff (clouds, falling joys, died pretty) and UK/US new wave. just starting to get into US indiepop stuff.

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 02:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Hmmm 1986:

Japan
Bauhaus
the Cure
Cocteau Twins
the Waterboys for some reason
the Church
Echo & the Bunnymen
the Alarm (arrrrgh! wtf I was obsessed with them)

OK that was embarrasing.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 02:33 (eighteen years ago) link

for some reason I was listening to The Living End a lot. Weird?

Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 02:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Ok 15. Let's see. It was 1979.
I was listening to:
Fleetwood Mac's Rumours
Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon
All the Queen albums
All the Kiss albums
Foreigner (yeah I grew out of that one)
Kansas (Ditto)
Aerosmith Rocks
Linda Ronstadt
Elton John
Frank Zappa and the Mothers
The Who
All the Alice Cooper albums
John Denver (and I admit it! Do I get a medal?)
Dolly Parton

Later in the same year I was listening to:
The Sex Pistols
The Ramones
The Clash
Blondie
Devo

and the next year 1980, well *that* was golden. 16 in 1980, going to ALL the punk/new wave shows....I'll have to wait for the "what were you listening to when you were 16" thread to tell you about that, old coot that I am.

Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 02:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Pierre Schaeffer
Frankie Goes To Hollywood
Drunks With Guns
Limahl

Brian Turner (btwfmu), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 02:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I think it was something like: Iron Maiden, WASP, Hanoi Rocks, Scorpions, Motley Crue, etc. at the beginning of the year; Celtic Frost and Metallica in the middle; Big Black, Naked Raygun, Minutemen, Black Flag, Butthole Surfers, Camper Van Beethoven, by the end.

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 03:13 (eighteen years ago) link

1992-1993... Beach Boys, Stone Temple Pilots, They Might be Giants (Flood Flood Flood), REM, and probably way too much Bon Jovi.

lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 03:20 (eighteen years ago) link

dow, if you were 15 when the above hits were new, then I must relinquish to you my sobriquet as "ilx's oldest known non-lurker". I'd count that as a huge relief.

Aimless, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link

XTC
Green (the Chicago pop-punk-soul band, not the Scritti Politti singer)
James Brown
the Replacements
Husker Du
Elvis Costello
Midnight Oil
Prince
the Who
Pink Floyd

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 23:29 (eleven years ago) link

Stereotypes of a high school sophomore misunderstood, but it's still all good:

Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out
Selby Tigers - Year of the Tigers
Pavement - Brighten The Corners
Radiohead - OK Computer
Pixies - Doolittle
X - Under The Big Black Sun
Stereolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup
Bjork - Homogenic
Cibo Mato - Viva! La Woman
Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation...
Tricky - Pre-Millenium Tension
Portishead - Portishead
Atari Teenage Riot - Burn, Berlin, Burn

d3rs, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 08:00 (eleven years ago) link

When I was 14/15, my friends and I would go to the record shop nearly every day and buy up cut-out cassette singles for 25p each. Most of them were awful, but I discovered dEUS through that, and a couple of other neat things.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:27 (eleven years ago) link

It's safe to say that every single person on this thread was a cooler 15-year-old than I was, lol.

No worries, I was listening to Ace of Base and Enigma too. And I still like them today.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:43 (eleven years ago) link

hahaha when I was 18, I made a bunch of my friends lie on the floor of my parents' darkened family room and meditate while blasting the first Enigma album

I don't know what is more amazing, the fact that I suggested this or the fact that THEY DID IT

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

15 was also just a year or two before everything exploded for me, in terms of music. Having a car and having friends who brought back IT'LL END IN TEARS from the import bins, after a steady diet of LA punk and rock, was a revelation. Then there was all those whack jobs I met when I went off to college.

I do think that 15was the year that 91X, the San Diego rock station (you'd call it classic rock now) went from their old format to new wave/college ratio/alternative before it was alternative. I kept listening, but mostly when the batteries in the Walkman died.

Matt M., Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

Turned 15 in March 1996, was mostly listening to NME-friendly dance music (Underworld, Prodigy, Chemical Brothers, Leftfield), Epitaph Records skatepunk (NoFX, Bad Religion, Pennywise, Rancid) and the Cardiacs. Also still liked some of the britpop/indie I'd been into earlier (I got Suede's Coming Up that year). Wish I still had my homework planner covered in band logos...

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

It's safe to say that every single person on this thread was a cooler 15-year-old than I was, lol.

Well, 15/16 was arguably my apex of cool a music listener, but my nadir of cool as a socially functional human being.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

it's funny, but i don't think it really occurred to me that music could be "cool", that it could have social and fashion significance, until i was 16 or 17. i mean, i was peripherally aware that others viewed music as cool or uncool, but didn't really get where they were coming from, figured that this sort of judgement was basically the same as simply liking billy joel or not.

i didn't start listening to stuff that i personally thought of as cooler than other music until i was 18 or so. i guess that's the year i became a snob, went along w getting seriously into the proto-indie "underground rock" that jon lewis mentioned above. it's taken me along time to shake the teenage idea that some sounds, audiences, aesthetics and ways of listening are better than others by virtue of their coolness. still rooting out traces (e.g., contempt for bro-rock a la puddle of mudd, jam bands, etc)

Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

Beyond kneejerk class/status etc, coolness can be a good thing, if it involves perspective, not just mindlessly melding w the artiste's self-seriousness etc--not that we don't all need someone we can feed on, comfort-wise for inst

dow, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, i'm cool w all that. it's the kneejerk/class status thing i was talking about. got really sucked into that for a while. honestly, i think it's in my nature to divide up the world that way, but i'm trying to me a bit more open-minded these days.

Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

The Fall, the Slits, the Clash, Wire, the Banshees and the Buzzcocks were biggies, as was anything on Rough Trade. Two-Tone. Burgeoning taste in reggae, which was quite tough to find in suburban America, but Linton Kwesi Johnson was a big fave. At 15 or 16, I remember my mother asking what I wanted for Christmas, and I gave her a list of records - from which she bought Wire's "Pink Flag," the Fall's "Early Fall" and the Pop Group's "How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass Murder?" albums. I still smile thinking about it, and the pain of waiting to play these on the stereo, which couldn't be done until my grandparents had left! Thanks, mom. Beyond that, nothing too embarrassing, remarkably, though I quite liked a lot of things that are forgotten / dismissed today - the Yachts' "Box 202," Chelsea's "Urban Kids," Henry Badowski's "Baby Sign Here With Me" and many others . . . as well as stuff like the debut Lene Lovich album, which is still pretty fine, but probably too silly to be revived in any way nowadays.

Ages 13 through 16 or so were lonely and odd . . . you can't imagine how much crap you'd get just walking down the street being into "punk rock" at this time, and I didn't even look or dress in punk-style! (I still love that the dismissive remark I'd always get from jocks riding by in a care was always "Devo sucks!" - apparently the sole weirdo-music frame of reference amongst Neanderthals.) In fact, pre-internet suburbia at that time offered few ways to learn much about punk at all - there weren't really any books about it when I got into music, and imported copies of the NME or whatever cost as much as a 7", so guess what I'd buy! Consequently, the idea I had of punk - shared by one other guy, and later two "much older" guys (one year older) - was largely self-invented, and involved things like making attaching resistors and funny looking but tiny electrical parts from Radio Shack to odd parts of our clothes, doing any drug we could find at any time and quite a lot of what today would be considered much more dada or situationist than recognizably punk. By the time I was a senior in high school, "new wave" had become just mainstream enough so that it appealed to the officially "cool" kids, and quite suddenly I was very popular and even looked up to by those who avoided me like the plague just two years earlier.

The early days of punk were great - so many concepts that are common today just didn't exist then - the idea of anything "retro," for instance. Records that weren't big sellers stayed in print for about 18 months and then you never saw them again. A lot of crucial stuff, like the Velvet Underground, was unknown to young music fans with good taste, because their best records had been out of print forever. Being into punk was a heavy choice; more or less one's musical choice was either REO Speedwagon, Styx, Kansas and Foreigner and the dregs of disco or stuff that was *genuinely* upsetting to people. I remember, around 1982, that there were suddenly records that offered kind of a middle path - you didn't have to make that crucial decision to avoid Eddie Money in favor of things that would get you beat up . . . you could listen to Soft Cell or the English Beat or something like that instead.

crustaceanrebel, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

later two "much older" guys (one year older)

That should read ". . . later two "much older" girls (both one year older) . . . "

crustaceanrebel, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

Reggae was extremely tough to find a long time ago, a crime considering how some American kids followed the British press! I used to like to read articles about reggae.

New wave and r & b.

Don't remember xpost "retro" til maybe late-ish 70s, a fashion thing, re bomber jackets etc--xgau defined it as "nostalgia with a will to power." When was it first applied to music? Anyway, although that was when I finally bought The Velvet Underground & Nico and The Who Sings My Generation--a punk deed, in my mind--after recently buying Nuggets, and in the wake of Patti Smith x Lenny Kaye distilling 60s into their own minimalist art-punk; ditto New York Dolls, folding "Pills," "Stranded In The Jungle" and "Don't You Start Me Talkin'" with their glam-punk originals. I bought new copies of those VU and Who LPs, but yeah, lots of other stuff now taken for granted was hard as hell to find until CDs took off. Sorry bout the boomer bait, but can't resist one more (it wasn't all Anglophilia)
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dow, Thursday, 3 May 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link


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