gravy train!!!, da hawnay troof, & similar outfits

people like cazwell or avenue d are much more explicitly referencing hip hop than anybody mentioned so far on the thread, i've seen them live too and there's no "joke" about it.

i had more fun at the avenue d shows i saw than at most of the shows starring my electronica idols, though i'd never take the time to buy an avenue d album or downloading tracks or whatever.

this is about as dud as dj shadow complaining about hip hop sucking in 96

(my secret reason for starting this thread - wondering whether my uh dislike of this stuff is reconcilable w/my penchant for "duff euro-rapping" or whatever (tho haha none of the ppl who listen to DHT/GT!!!/whatevah that I've met have ever, ever given anything disco-&-beyond the time of day))

My local record shop is claiming that the new Gravy Train album sounds like the Shangri Las singing Peaches. This sounds oddly appealing.

Well its definitely preferable to Peaches singing Shangri-Las.

It's a bit garage rock and bit rubbish, and I used to have a lot of time for Gravy Train!!!!.

i like hawnay troof's enthusiasm. but it's kinda empty enthusiasm. it's like watching kids who've had too many red bulls playing air hockey; kinda fun for about a minute, then really really dull.

xbxrx are the sha-na-na of hardcore. i assume that's the point, though.

gygax and strongo 1,000% OTM (3 years ago and many many posts ago)

this stuff really did turn out to be the future of popular music, didn't it

xbxrx are the sha-na-na of hardcore. i assume that's the point, though.

wtf?

wow, i'm pretty sure i SAW gravy train (!!! i guess) back in 2004 or thereabouts, but i remember almost nothing about them. certainly don't remember them being offensive enough to merit the kind of reaction they got here, but hey who knows.

I was thinking about Hawnay Troof today for some reason. I saw them (when they were a duo) in 2003, performing in a dive bar in central Europe in their underpants, and it was definitely one of the most entertaining shows I've seen. Not that musically accomplished, of course, but somehow welcoming, intense and fun all at the same time. I had a copy of their LP Get Up! Resolution Love, but it wasn't great except for a few tracks, and I failed to investigate them any further until today, when I found this from 2008, and I dunno, it's pretty good?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqT0vgx73CI

Not surprised they/he got a kicking in this thread as he does appear to be sort of a hipster, and people will hate hipsters. What I'm surprised about is that nobody mentioned HT in the context of gay hip-hop, because (especially on the first LP) at least half the tracks seem to be explicity about gay sex, and that isn't something you encounter that often even now, and even less so in 2003.