Rolling Metal Thread 2012

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I've found myself saying "the first stuff was better/best" a lot. But I don't think its a rule, it just so happens to be so, regardless of genre.. Being tired of the argument I think has more to do with bands getting tired and putting out shitty music than it does fans holding on to nostalgia and the good old days. A lot of people like a band at its rawest and purest and most pissed off, and thats usually the first record. But sometimes that rawness is too raw, and undeveloped un focused.. (the 1st Sepultura comes to mind) It goes back to that 'you've had your whole life to do your first record, and you've had only a year and a half to do your second'...

SeanWayne, Thursday, 17 May 2012 03:43 (eleven years ago) link

but it really is something that bugs the shit out of me - the implied refusal to allow bands to evolve or grow.

i think you got the wrong person there.

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 17 May 2012 04:35 (eleven years ago) link

People like you are everything that's wrong with metal.

lol

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 17 May 2012 04:37 (eleven years ago) link

how dare I have an opinion!

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 17 May 2012 04:37 (eleven years ago) link

I only listen to the 1st song on the 1st demo

original bgm, Thursday, 17 May 2012 05:25 (eleven years ago) link

A lot of
people like a band at its rawest and purest and most pissed off, and thats usually
the first record. But sometimes that rawness is too raw, and undeveloped un
focused.. (the 1st Sepultura comes to mind)

this sums it up quite nicely. esp bc i have always thought that the 1st sepultura was a weak record.

original bgm, Thursday, 17 May 2012 05:29 (eleven years ago) link

baroness song on their website is v. "....."

call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 May 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link

bands really need to stop cleaning up their vocals because i don't want to know what dumb shit you are singing about

call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 May 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

how come bands never start off as blustery indie-rock affairs and end up doing sludgy hardcore stuff a few albums later? always the other way

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

The "first album is the best" phenomenon is a form of survivorship bias. Thousands of bands make shitty demos/debuts, never get to make a second.

Siegbran, Thursday, 17 May 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

baroness song on their website is v. "....."

holy shit, you weren't kidding

original bgm, Thursday, 17 May 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

Reports are that "Take My Bones Away" is the heaviest thing on the record. I also think it's the best thing they've ever done, but I'm a well known hater.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 17 May 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

Which website is that? Cause http://www.baroness.com gave me an unexpected result.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

lol well not entirely unexpected

call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link

baronessmusic is what you want

call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

Has anybody else preordered this record? I preordered the CD version and the green T-shirt.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link

You guys I bought the Jeff Loomis record today because of all your enthusing, mye ars are expecting to be shredded.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

i already said i pre-ordered the vinyl
xp

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

Three seems to be the magic number for my favorite metal albums for Metallica, Slayer, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Kreator and Megadeth. Album #2 for Napalm Death, Slough Feg, High On Fire and Mercyful Fate. For Mastodon, Gojira and Hammers of Misfortune I've got #4, Black Sabbath and Neurosis #5, Entombed and Scorpions #6, Opeth #8. Hopefully Baroness' #3 (not counting EPs) will be my favorite.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

Entombed?

Siegbran, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

i can't even think what the hell the 6th entombed album would even be. uprising is the only later entombed i still listen to. and i mostly just listen to it for the first song. unsane rubbed off on them on that album. unsane and motorhead. which is fine by me.

scott seward, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

Hellz yeah, Entombed - Uprising. Great album.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

siegbran doesn't even want to KNOW about entombed after clandestine. this much i know. i've known this for years, actually.

scott seward, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

Uprising is super awesome rad. MOTORDEATH

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Thursday, 17 May 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

Maryland Deathfest in one week. Anyone else going?

DLee, Friday, 18 May 2012 00:30 (eleven years ago) link

I'll be there. And at the YOB show in NYC on 5/23. Then I'm home for three days before Scion Rock fest and WM tour. Phew!

Nate Carson, Friday, 18 May 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link

got my new decibel with a rave witch mountain review in it. and a picture suitable for framing.

scott seward, Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

Nice! Will have to check that out. I need to get a subscription...

Nate Carson, Sunday, 20 May 2012 03:29 (eleven years ago) link

Saw Narrows, Retox and Early Graves last night.. the sound sucked-ass for EG and Retox, but the drummer for EG, who is a soundman in his own right, totally fixed the sound for Narrows, and they destroyed SF.. EG was great despite the shitty sound and Retox was, egh..

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 02:32 (eleven years ago) link

oh rad i fuckin love narrows

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 02:35 (eleven years ago) link

yeah... it wasn't packed, like not enough to have that big piece of man meat singer trying to stage dive, but he did it anyway...lol! got the sleepy Sunday crowd going for their set for sure..

It made me realize though... the bands that have that strong root in Hradcore, no matter how far they stray from it, always know how to wake a crowd up and put on a good show, without being pretentious in anyway.. that shit was real, raw, and heart felt.

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 03:31 (eleven years ago) link

= danish hardcore??

j., Tuesday, 22 May 2012 03:35 (eleven years ago) link

I really like the song Greenland off the last Narrows album. It's like the country, all weird, fucked up and shit.

Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 05:34 (eleven years ago) link

The new Grand Magus is really good; hits that sweet spot between classic Judas Priest and Amon Amarth.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 11:06 (eleven years ago) link

Also excellent: the new Dawnbringer. I find Profound Lore's catalog way more miss than hit, but this one's a killer.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 13:33 (eleven years ago) link

May metal roundup: 10 mini-reviews by me, 5 by other folks (and I feel like I'm slipping behind in my listening again):

http://www.rhapsody.com/blog/2012/05/metal

xhuxk, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link

The Grand Magus and Dawnbringer albums are outstanding. Hooky, powerful stuff. A bit silly how the Dawnbringer is a concept album yet no lyrics are included!

And Chuck, that Halestorm album is growing on me.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, and Crazy Lixx is great fun.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

Oh man, that Grand Magus record is killer – made me happy I just got a new car with USB capabilities so I can rock out to it while driving.

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link

Tomorrow: Nasum and Brutal Truth in Philly.
My face: Grinded.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

I knew it was a good idea to start reducing my antidepressants at the start of the year. I'm actually getting really excited about the Slayer day of IBYM in London now.

Is anyone going?

Seeing Yob for the first time and the Melvins should be amazing if the new album's anything to go by.

Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

Wish I was going this weekend but will content myself with Harvey Milk tonight instead.

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

Rockin'. They're usually ace. Seeing them on Saturday.

Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, this Grand Magus album is solid, in the solidest sense of solidity. Metal in the oldest, grandest, Steppenwolf-and-Deep-Purple-invented-this tradition.

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

"Starlight Slaughter" totally sounds like Down to Earth era Rainbow.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

That song has been stuck in my head. I love catchy songs about werewolves!

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

Awesome show all round. A Norwegian (?) sludge band playing their second ever show were a blinding start, then Hey Colossus (who I have always managed to miss until now) totally knocked me out.

Harvey Milk completely brought it though, with a sludge doom first half culminating in Anvil Will Fall, then an unexpected Shame ushering in a totally rocking second half. We also got an encore of Lay My Head Down in defiance of the curfew which you might not get at the weekend. Creston's voice is in seriously bad shape though, so I wouldn't actually like to predict just what you'll get at the weekend.

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

Hey Colossus are awesome. How was the drumming? They've recently picked up Tim Cedar - frontman of Part Chimp - on sticks.

Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 23:39 (eleven years ago) link

Haha, I was pretty sure it was him but thought it too odd a change to be right. Drumming was great, he hits hard and the second last track had some really strange tempo changes and stop-starts that seemed to suit his style well.

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Thursday, 24 May 2012 06:10 (eleven years ago) link


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