tumblr rapper kitty pryde

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (1077 of them)

so good art only expresses noble/intelligent/productive ideas now, it can't reflect other things?

― Chris S

apollonian ideal get into it

the late great, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

backlash agianst dionysus begins HERE

the late great, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

:)

Chris S, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

could def get into this apollonian ideal

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

the beastie boys dont seem self conscious at all

man down (D-40), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

no, they have different dumb ideas (most involving beer and hooahs)

The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

you sure you're not confusing apollo and adonis?

the late great, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

xxp

the late great, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

sorry for nerd lolz - that's a pic of "Apollo" from Battlestar Galactica

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol, i've never seen BG, but i figured due to ruggedized bunk beds (suitable for spacefaring)

The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

kitty pryde vs childish gambino

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, May 16, 2012 3:06 PM Bookmark

kitty pryde

The Reverend, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

a suburban-seeming middle class white girl being insecure about an identity as rapper -- wow, that is just so weird!

lol

Deej otm imho

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

dunno if I count as a "hip hop head" but Kreayshawn's one hit was way better than these three that's for damn sure

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

Both Kreayshawn and Kitty Pryde get a hype-bounce from their points of difference vis a vis other rap but I don't think you can conflate those points of difference.

I think where Deej's distinction holds true - and leaving aside what one thinks about the quality of the music in question - is that writing about kitty pryde already has - and I suspect nearly always will - slide into writing about tumblr culture etc. etc. whereas while Kreayshawn has profited from the same dynamics a writer trying to present her music as being about those dynamics would struggle to do so credibly.

We need to distinguish between internet culture as facilitating content and internet culture as the subject of content: at this point even the most scare-quote "real" scenes disseminate a lot of new material - and hence new developments - through youtube et. al. but this doesn't make all of them the same. Of course these things are heavily intertwined, but we can at least talk in terms of degrees.

Whiney's hypothetical lazy writer scanning the web for content to talk up isn't lazy because he's scanning the web - at this point I think we all do that. What might make him lazy is the extent to which his writing simply becomes a kind of recitation of the process of absorbing content and what that content seems to express at its surface level. I am wary of over-celebrating a traditional "work the beat" ethic in journalism because it can easily end up being just as lazy, but I would at least concede that the internet makes it possible to be lazier than ever before, at a critical rather than physical level.

None of this is kitty pryde's fault but at the same time her music seems to invite that reaction. Again, I think an enormous part of this is down to the backing music which positions her much more than the use of teengirl speak does.

Tim F, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think an enormous part of this is down to the backing music which positions her much more than the use of teengirl speak does.

yes!

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

Like, I've hardly been incensed by contenderizer wanting to defend this stuff b/c I suspect I feel about the same level of not-really-sure-what-I-think ambivalence, but I instinctively reject the idea that kitty pryde turns people off b/c she is alien - when it's clear that kp has already considered and decided to target adult audiences looking for yet another form of pop culture as distancing ironic-yet-sincere celebration of youth. The upshot of her being self-aware (and, I suspect, just plain smart) is that the music itself does all the "framing" heavy lifting so that writers don't have to.

Congratulations to her, really. OTOH I think ILX is unusual in that a lot of the antipathy towards artists stems from the presentiment of how much bad writing it is likely to inspire.

Tim F, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

target adult audiences looking for yet another form of pop culture as distancing ironic-yet-sincere celebration of youth

I am not in this target market

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

is this like 30-something dudes that watch that Lena Dunham show?

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

tim i've never seen you incensed on ilm, your sang froid in the face of bs is legendary

the late great, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

OTOH I think ILX is unusual in that a lot of the antipathy towards artists stems from the presentiment of how much bad writing it is likely to inspire.

haha, so otm

flopson, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, i think i'm sort of outside the bubble wr2 the reactions tim is talking about, mostly because i don't have any strong response to the way the backing tracks position KP's rapping. i have no positive or negative opinions on "cloud rap" (or w/e) and its appeal to hipsters. i think of the tracks as sort of second rate, but a good general choice of foils for KP's voice and persona.

in defending her, i'm only talking about her voice, style and lyrics.

The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

how do you separate her "style" from her choice of backing tracks?

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

is this like 30-something dudes that watch that Lena Dunham show?

hey, i'm 40-something, and i watch that show. only cuz my gf does, though. i mean, i saw every single episode of sex and the city, too, but not by choice.

The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

riiiiiiiiiight!

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

how do you separate her "style" from her choice of backing tracks?

her style as a rapper/vocalist/whatever. the music is so blah that i don't care about it one way or the other. afaic, it's just a frame that exists around her voice & lyrics.

The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

sarahell, i would be very interested in hearing more about the link between kitty pryde + lena dunham

Mordy, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

riiiiiiiiiight!

won't deny that i wound up getting into both shows. i'm an easy sell (as this thread conclusively proves).

The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

As a Girls watcher who turned 30 this week, I'd say "yes" with caveats: both seem to get a lot of their sense of momentum from an audience mindset already primed to be fascinated with both the traumas and the dialects of youth.

The difference is that Girls by virtue of being a fully-fledged TV show with characters and plot-lines etc. is in a position to prompt good writing as well as bad.

Articles about KP at this point are kind of like articles on Girls (positive or negative) based solely on HBO's teaser trailer of a few months back.

I am part of the target market btw.

Tim F, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

shows i watch atm:

girls
game of thrones
mad men
adventure time

The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

Mordy - the only link in my mind was Tim's phrase "target adult audiences looking for yet another form of pop culture as distancing ironic-yet-sincere celebration of youth," and the fact that contenderizer seems to post a lot in that thread, as well as a conversation i had a while back with an irl non-ilx friend who was talking about how he should watch that show after expressing concerns about aging and cultural relevance.

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

To be clear I don't have a problem with "yet another form of pop culture as distancing ironic-yet-sincere celebration of youth", but the excitement with which each new example is greeted tends to invite condescending willy wonka meme pictures.

Tim F, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

polyphonic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh good, America has its own Die Antwoord now.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

the only link in my mind was Tim's phrase "target adult audiences looking for yet another form of pop culture as distancing ironic-yet-sincere celebration of youth," and the fact that contenderizer seems to post a lot in that thread

makes more sense to triangulate my posting re: girls, KP and LDR as a combo of marc loi and "i am interested in the discourse"

The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

tim i've never seen you incensed on ilm, your sang froid in the face of bs is legendary

― the late great, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:39 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well, you know, arguments on the internet.

Tim F, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

that Lena Dunham show

♆ (gr8080), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

i guess there was that time you got incensed at me for trying to talk about doc daneeka and other hipster funky on the tropical 2 thread

the late great, Thursday, 17 May 2012 01:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

furious.

Tim F, Thursday, 17 May 2012 01:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

800 posts

♆ (gr8080), Thursday, 17 May 2012 02:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

and to think there are only 4 new answers on the Jackson Galaxy, star of Animal Planet's "My Cat From HELL." thread

sarahell, Thursday, 17 May 2012 02:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha thats a very unfair comparison!

♆ (gr8080), Thursday, 17 May 2012 03:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

my tumblr rapper kitty pryde from HELL

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 17 May 2012 03:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

girls is dope ftw

man down (D-40), Thursday, 17 May 2012 08:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

when you glean all your information about television programmes from the thinkpieces that trail in their wake, it's often really surprising who turns out to be pro or anti

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

ime everyone likes girls

flopson, Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 01:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

riff raff collabo by the end of next week

― J0rdan, Diddy (tpp), Friday, May 11, 2012 12:39 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

took a lil longer

just sayin, Thursday, 24 May 2012 19:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

idgi how u cant like this girl

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE JUST REALIZED ANYONE CAN LITERALLY GET MAD ABOUT ANYTHING THERE ARE AN INFINITE NUMBER OF REALLY ANGRY POSTS THAT PEOPLE CAN MAKE ON THE INTERNET

BOUTTA DRAW UP A MATHEMATICAL THEOREM OR SOMETHING
******************
VAMPIRE WEEKEND SENT ME A BEAT

HM
******************
DID YOU GUYS KNOW THERES AN ARTIFICIAL SWEETENING CHEMICAL IN SUGARFREE GUM THAT WILL GIVE YOU EXPLOSIVE DIARRHEA IF YOU CHEW WAY TOO MUCH AT A TIME??????????

I DIDNT BUT I DEFINITELY DO NOW
*****************
THANK U FOR YOUR KIND ASK MSGS BUT
LISTEN MAN IF BEING “FAMOUS” MEANS YOU EXPECT ME TO STOP TALKING ABOUT MY UNFORTUNATE BOWEL ACTIVITIES PUBLICLY THEN LETS JUST FORGET ABOUT THE WHOLE THING

johnny crunch, Friday, 8 June 2012 01:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

DID YOU GUYS KNOW THERES AN ARTIFICIAL SWEETENING CHEMICAL IN SUGARFREE GUM THAT WILL GIVE YOU EXPLOSIVE DIARRHEA IF YOU CHEW WAY TOO MUCH AT A TIME??????????

I DIDNT BUT I DEFINITELY DO NOW

didn't some ilxor post about this recently? OUTED!

Merdeyeux, Friday, 8 June 2012 01:39 (1 year ago) Permalink


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.