price apparently forgave reeves for all his bad behavior and admitted it was one of his best performances
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
Vincent Price is a CLAWS ACK!
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
that's better
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
nothing I voted for has placed yet and I've only seen a few of what's placed so far. bunch of things I've never even heard of. Putting May in the queue tho
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
I'd be more surprised to see, say, Silent House - The Cabin in The Woods does one thing really well, it's not going to be for everyone, but it is really going to be for those it's for. Is the surprise that people who love it are expected to not be 'real' horror fans?
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
we won't find out for sure until tomorrow, but my guess is that the next 15 will be a similar "a fine mix of camp, kitsch, shlock, gore, crud, old people movies, and that's-not-really-horror" (quoting Strongo) as today's batch. i wonder precisely when the likely suspects (OG texas chain saw massacre, dracula, exorcist, friday the 13th, etc.) will start showing up.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
I would be surprised if Friday the 13th places very highly. Excorcist and TCM are gonna be top 10.
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
To help tide us over until tomorrow:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-e8ATuFpIc
― He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
i know i always underrate it but i would be surprised to see exorcist in the top ten
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
xpost way to circumvent all the material I'm stealing!
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
i dont think that the cabin in the woods head scratching has anything to do with real horror fans or whatever, it just seems a little slight in a lot of ways, and also (and im saying this even w/my weird recent only rule) way too recent to have really gotten a handle on yet.
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
I would be surprised if Friday the 13th places very highly.
i wouldn't ... for better or worse, it's canonical at this point. then again, so is Korn's first album so YMMV.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
Well, to be precise, TCITW was actually filmed something like two or three years ago, right?
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
I don't really like it, but I know folks around here that REAAAALLLY like it.
I know F13th is canon but people don't seem to stan for it much and it's really a pretty shitty film.
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
F13 is canonical but also not a very good film
the exorcist is like the godfather in that there's usually a lot of consensus around it being GOAT
unless horror ilxors are feeling particularly challopsy I'd expect to see it in the top 10
lol xpost
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
in fact I'm gonna make my top 10 prediction list right now (won't post it till after tho)
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
xpost to cryptkeeper video
videad sassoon cRIPt
― the acquisition and practice of music is unfavourable to the health of (abanana), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
you know how jjjusten is about pontypool? that's gonna be me if black swan places
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
reading contemporaneous reports of people watching the exorcist when it first came out is like reading contemporaneous reports of when people first saw, e.g., birth of a nation or phantom of the opera ... it's a glimpse into a very different time with different mindsets. nowadays certain scenes from the exorcist are more noteworthy for being unintentionally comical (though Richard Pryor realized its comic potential right from the start, apparently) than for being scary.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
Pryor's bit is better than the movie imho
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
i mean, people in 1973 (or whenever it came out) were really scared shitless by the thing!
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
ha theres no chance of that is there? re black swan placing
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
I wouldn't think F13 would even make the list! Just re-watched it and boy that's an unimpressive little film.
Cabin in the Woods is a very fine satire, and catnip for horror fans casual or serious. The lab half is smart and fun. The zombie half is forgettable and limp. None of it is scary, but surely we agree on that (and with no complaints). Overall, I can't imagine we'll be talking about it in 5 years.
― The Thnig, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
(i voted for black swan)
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
i think to be fair part of the problem w/me seeing the greatness of the exorcist was that growing up in a godless heathen household it just wasnt really scary because posession seemed way less likely than getting eaten by a werewolf or w/e. obv thats not a general rule, but for me, frankly, the omen was way better
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
I would've said the same about a movie that came out a month ago but forget it jake it's chinatown
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
I honestly hope Friday the 13th fails to place. That thing is coasting on little more than name recognition, and even that's a little baffling. It's the only one of the big '80s franchises without a single installment I'd rep for.
― Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
Black Swan will have a shot at my ballot in the Unintentional Comedy poll.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
i'd be surprised if F13 makes the countdown, unless people around here are a lot more nostalgically fond of it than i realized. exorcist i figure will definitely make top 20, but i'm not convinced that it'll be top 10.
considered voting for black swan, but nah
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
i though black swan was supposed to be funny, though, so maybe i didn't really "get it"
only one for me (wolf creek) but a couple that might have made a top 100.
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
guys the crypt keeper has a christmas album and there is a rap song
― He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
I was raised catholic so I am the exorcist's built-in audience, but I have to imagine that no matter what yr upbringing, a 12 year old girl stabbing herself in the crotch until bloody is a pretty shocking image for most
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
i will totally rep for the first friday the 13th! i think the weariness from endless sequels watered it down but its def among the better mainstream slasher films
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
can someone please add WARNING: EXORCIST CROTCH SPOILERS to thread title? thnx.
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
also youve got to hand a lot of credit to that and carrie for permanently establishing the double ending gotcha moment xpost
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
friday the 13th is kinda gack and im on record as not entirely hating some of the late halloween sequels
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
i was raised Catholic ... and my parents were pretty hardcore religious, too ... but even so the whole "this is why the exorcist is really scary to Catholics!" had to be explained to me. then again, i've always had a sick sense of humor (though a 12 year-old stabbing herself in her crotch was admittedly shocking) and when i 1st watched it as a teenager my honest reaction was "lol 12 year old cussing up a storm and spitting green pea soup COMEDY GOLD".
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
i think to be fair part of the problem w/me seeing the greatness of the exorcist was that growing up in a godless heathen household it just wasnt really scary because posession seemed way less likely than getting eaten by a werewolf or w/e.
I grew up the same way, jjj, but I always counter the position you've taken by asking, "What makes you (or the characters in the film) so sure that the 'possession' was caused by anything as easily-definable as a demon or that there was any theological solution to the problem?". It's a question that I think the film leaves open to interpretation (assuming you ignore the additional backstory supplied by subsequent installments).
― Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
The OG F13 killed an actual snake on screen. Can Val Lewton say that?
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
huh deric thats actually kind of an interesting question
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
I'll give F13 credit for the double-shock ending. And, oh, how well that has served us.
― The Thnig, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
also, i saw the Richard Pryor Exorcist/SNL skit long before i'd actually seen the exorcist (lol my parents having less trouble having less problems w/ a teenaged me watching/listening to Richard Pryor even at his raunchiest than they had w/ me watching stuff like the exorcist or top secret! or playing dungeons and dragons, but that's another topic). so that probably irrevocably predisposed me to seeing the comedy in the exorcist.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
I agree that as a non-Catholic the "horror" element of the Exorcist totally eludes me. like OMG the devil can levitate a bed. stop the presses.
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
I wasn't a huge stan for black swan, but I think it would be fair play for a horror poll - it certainly has enough hat-tips to Repulsion to reveal that Aranofksy was totally going for the Polanski model of woman-in-distress.
― Troll 3 (Pillbox), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
never cared for the exorcist honestly and i could only be more catholic if i was wearing a pope hat.
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
I think the extremity of the exorcist leads ppl to be either really into it or totally out of it. if you think the proceedings are goofy I guess you're just going to check out? what lends the craziness of the final sequence its power is the patient buildup, that 70s verite style contrasted with totally outlandish happenings. there's a great use of sound design - a lot of sudden cutting between loud jarring scenes and complete silence. and some of my favorite moments from it are the early ones - the mysterious prologue in iraq, karras' dream, his first meeting with regan etc. and all the scenes between karras and the detective are golden.
also the stories about friedkin making the exorcist are kinda hilar, like him slapping an actual priest to get him to cry onscreen which scandalized the catholic crew.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
i was more disturbed by the discovery that high-ranking Catholic clergy during the late 20th century still took the concepts of demon possession and exorcisms of same seriously than by what i saw on the screen while watching the exorcist. it was as if they also disclosed that they still believed in witch-burning or torturing heretics.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
I don't understand most of the religeous references in supernatural j-horror (and they're in there), but that hasn't stopped these movies from freaking me out.
― He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah Friedkin's kind of a maniac and the movie seems genuinely unhinged, which I think is more what's scary about it than anything theological. It's incoherent and objectively ridiculous, but the whole thing feels out of control.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link