The Haunt Of Fear: ILX Top 100 HORROR Movies Poll Results Thread

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Wait, how are ghost stories not horror?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-glwTnsFe0QA/Tp0JzXfA0AI/AAAAAAAACLM/YrAginokzzw/s1600/ghost_chase.jpg

Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

e.mily ... it was a .gif from patrick swayze's ghost.

Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

But neither are they mutually exclusive (ghost story/horror film)

MrDasher, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

Ghost is pretty horrifying

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

My memories of Onibaba are really smeary. I think I must have been falling asleep while watching it. Remember it being hella freaky

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

But no, point taken, I guess. Though maybe I'm more picky on the semantics... I wouldn't call the Ghost & Mrs Muir a 'ghost story', really. And I definitely wouldn't call Ghost a ghost story. More a romance that happens to feature a ghost...

emil.y, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NEW9asMBG6Q/S7FjuBbJaoI/AAAAAAAAAFw/0asmrF_O69U/s320/ghostdad.jpg

The prosecution rests, yer honor.

Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

Ghost will have a new life someday as a comedy.

game of crones (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

Again, not a 'ghost story'. A comedy that features a ghost.

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emil.y, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

So saying "it's a ghost story, not horror" doesn't really explain why something isn't horror. It's not the presense of ghosts in Topper, Ghost, etc that makes them not horror.

MrDasher, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

Ghost Dad was a comedy which involved a dad who was also a ghost.

Troll 3 (Pillbox), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

patrick swayze's mullet was pretty frigthening.

Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

I saw Onibaba years ago, don't remember much. Glad to see Curse of the Cat People; I voted for the first one, but thought they were both really good when I watched them back-to-back recently. Found the old lady's daughter (she only has one scene in the original) especially creepy.

clemenza, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

Wait, how are ghost stories not horror?

it's been argued in the nominations thread that ghost stories can belong to the fantasy/"dark fantasy" genre just easily as they can to horror. suppose this is true, but it's equally true of just about every kind of supernatural being (werewolves, vampires, demons, etc). most of my favorite horror films take place at the intersection of fantasy and horror, so i'm inclined to count any at least moderately scary ghost story as horror.

and comical or romantic ghost stories are still ghost stories, just not scary ones.

i regret not voting for the original cat people.

the casper the friendly ghost movie was scary b/c it was so bad:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_h327jbSGoh0/R_6YUJP0lFI/AAAAAAAADRs/p0dKjjcFC6g/s400/casper_screen001.jpg

Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

lotsa ghost stories that are horror (plz see every japanese film with a young girl with long black hair plz), lots that arent

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

haven't seen Curse in eons, liked it but preferred to include the original.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

Love Curse, can't remember if I voted for it. (Agree that it's only sorta kinda horror, but w/e.)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

whoa average curse of the cat people vote was 40 points

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

oh hey eric are you listing first place votes when they occur

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

I think I voted for Cat People but not Curse of the Cat People.

MrDasher, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

i can see someone voting for curse b/c it is a very good movie, but i didn't really think it was scary or creepy. maybe Simone Simon was too much a "good" ghost.

Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

I read or heard somewhere that Lewton really pushed back against the studio on Curse; the more they tried to get him to make it just like the first one but scarier, the more he veered towards fantasy.

clemenza, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

who was running RKO then?

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

oh hey eric are you listing first place votes when they occur

"One thing I'll say about Angie Dickenson and Michael Caine ... they sure are SHARP dressers!"

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90. DRESSED TO KILL
Brian De Palma, USA, 1980
(202 points, 8 votes, 1 first-place vote)

dressed to kill is a better movie than 90% of this list
― buzza, Thursday, July 28, 2011 4:09 PM (9 months ago)

I don't buy there are 5 movies on this list better than dressed to kill.
― third-generation stripper (Eric H.), Thursday, July 28, 2011 4:24 PM (9 months ago)
WORST of the Best Picture Oscar Noms (Only The '80s Edition)

Dressed to Kill was 't dus die al op de lijst stond. deze kan er ook best bij.
― Ludo, Tuesday, June 16, 2009 6:43 AM (2 years ago)

Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

what's unique about onibaba is that it captures the desolation and seedy desperation of life in ancient times. the entire thing takes place in a swamp, where a mother and daughter feed off the chaos and disorder caused by the samurai armies ravaging the countryside. there's this primitive peasantry angle that gets exploited, almost akin to andrei rublev? but with a vengeful demon mask.

voted for cat people, but not curse.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

yay another one that i voted for! dressed to kill is still surprisingly effective.

Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

angie dickinson is aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawesome in dressed to kill and i forgot to vote for it :(

game of crones (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

what's unique about onibaba is that it captures the desolation and seedy desperation of life in ancient times.

well, so does monty python & the holy grail but that one certainly isn't a horror film ...

XD

Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

dressed to kill, really? why not blow out and body double too? never thought of it as a horror film, more like hitchcockian suspense thriller. the final scene does use some horror movie trappings but that doesn't make it a horror movie.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

blow out was more of a political thriller ... though Lithgow was pretty creepy, as was the final scene w/ Travolta listening to Nancy Allen's final screams on a walkman.

Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

watched Dressed to Kill earlier this year actually (after seeing it on TV as a kid lol) - really fun, Dickinson is awesome, Caine is good, the elevator attack is nightmarish.

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah it's a joyride. Almost as much a send-up of Hitchcock as an homage.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

whoa average curse of the cat people vote was 40 points

― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, May 16, 2012 1:07 PM (16 minutes ago)

yeah, high passion score there

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

vacillated endlessly on dressed to kill. i really wanted to vote for more than one de palma film, but it wound up being one of my last two cuts. like the silence of the lambs and se7en, i just feel that it's more a dark, erotic mystery thriller than a horror film.

i'm not sure why i exclude DTK when i made room for the likes of repulsion and psycho though. perhaps because those films really pushed at the boundaries of what a "scary movie" could do in their day, and focus so intently on ghoulishness and creepy atmosphere. a line so fine it vanishes on close examination, but i'm nevertheless happy with my decision.

blow out is a straight political thriller, without even DTK's black-gloved, stalk-and-slash giallo trappings, and body double is a romantic, melodramatic thriller that owes a huge debt to vertigo. it's only got one real horror-style moment (but what a moment it is).

just perused my ballot, but it looks like i left off onibaba ... i thought that i had voted for it, but apparently not.

Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

huh, dressed to kill? really? i am thinking that i am operating on a very different definition of horror here than lots of other people

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

My fave things in DtK are the museum sequence, the wacky but relevant STD thing, and maybe Keith Gordon. You can p much have the rest of it.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

whoa average curse of the cat people vote was 40 points
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, May 16, 2012 1:07 PM (16 minutes ago)

yeah, high passion score there
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:27 PM (6 minutes ago)

Don't have the numbers in front of me atm, so I'm not sure if COTCP wins the Passiondex for the whole top 100 or not. I will say that it's the only movie in the whole list that got in with less than six votes.

Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

As a 13-year-old boy I had teh major hots for Nancy Allen.

That STD thing is one of cinema's great punchlines.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

Morbius--not sure about RKO. The same people who mucked around with Ambersons, probably.

Fantastic image choice for Dressed to Kill.

clemenza, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

Also in look7ng back at my ballot I actually voted for Se7en, so. At least two weeks ago I though7 it was horror.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

just an aside, but if paranormal activity makes it in this countdown and blair witch doesnt i am going to shake my head at yall so hard that its going to fall off

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

Fantastic image choice for Dressed to Kill.

There really was no other choice imo. It's such an instantly iconic image.

Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

Morbz OTM about the museum sequence

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

just an aside, but if paranormal activity makes it in this countdown and blair witch doesnt i am going to shake my head at yall so hard that its going to fall off

― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, May 16, 2012 1:38 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTM. Doubt that'll happen tho

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

oh btw i will join in the chorus abt how awesome the stills are, but lets not forget the cryptkeeper business that eric is doing here which is also a+++

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

btw has Michael Caine ever been worse?

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

btw has Michael Caine ever been worse?

Talk about releasing the Kraken.

Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link


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