The Haunt Of Fear: ILX Top 100 HORROR Movies Poll Results Thread

i have never seen onibaba. get it confused w kwaidan, which is lo7ely but rather dull.

it's almost a given that art-house Japanese films from the early/mid 1960s have stunning cinematography ... the woman in the dunes (which i debated including on my ballot) is also stunning in that regard.

i always confuse onibaba/kwaidan/jigoku. I've seen none of them.

i have never seen onibaba. get it confused w kwaidan, which is lo7ely but rather dull.

I much prefer onibaba to kwaidan

"The CURSE of the CAT PEOPLE was the CURSE of BLOOD!"

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91. CURSE OF THE CAT PEOPLE
Gunther von Fritsch & Robert Wise, USA, 1944
(200 points, 5 votes)

did any other film of its era deal with a child's POV so effectively?
― J.D., Friday, January 18, 2008 1:26 AM (4 years ago)

I love Curse for many of the same reasons I love Night of the Hunter. It doesn't read as "horror" as well to those who didn't enjoy the thrill of horror as kids.
― michael assbender (Eric H.), Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:40 PM (7 months ago)

I really find it hard to believe that anyone prefers Curse to the original Cat People film.
― The New Dirty Vicar, Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:40 AM (6 months ago)

i'm the opposite ... i prefer kwaidan to onibaba.

Hip hip hooray for Onibaba. Great great film. The rustling grasses, the thundering storm, the cautionary tale of lust, the deep dark depths of the pit of despair.

curse is a very good film, but i see it as more of a ghost-story than a horror film.

Got Onibaba around 2005, viewings since: 0. Places highly on my phantom list of "Sure favorites if i'd only come around to actually watch them".
I feel a bit awkward having voted for (most probably) far inferior stuff in the lower ranks of my ballot for the sake of "not cheating".

onibaba goatse

I had never even heard of Onibaba until I went looking for source images for screencaps & found that literally every image I came across was some combination of beautiful, unnerving and haunted as fuck. It has since rocketed to the top of my list.

Haha, grauschleier, I made sure to get around to a bunch of films on my similar list just before voting closed. Many of them make an appearance on my ballot.

plus silence of the lambs features the fall on the soundtrack so

And SOTL and 7 both have Howard Shore scores which are very akin to one another. Shore's 7 music is perhaps even more amazingly black than his SOTL but unfortunately has never had a decent CD.

(abandoned my horror ballot early on bc I realized I hadn't seen enough horror movies to warrant voting so now I'm just along for the ride...however this results thread is awesome and Eric H your PUNgent humour is CUTTING me up)

curse is a very good film, but i see it as more of a ghost-story than a horror film.

― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, May 16, 2012 5:54 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wait, how are ghost stories not horror?

i do regret that i only had one Val Lewton on my ballot ... and i am sure that the one i voted for will make it.

Both orig cat ppl movies remain HUGE gaps in my watching history. God I need to remedy that.

Wait, how are ghost stories not horror?

― emil.y, Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:56 PM (29 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

b/c this is also a ghost story (and it's not a horror film):

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The Ghost and Mrs Muir

Topper

xxxp

A broken image link? Chilling...

I had two Val Lewtons on my ballot -- I'm pretty sure at least one will show up later. Also def need to see Onibaba now. I did no studying whatsoever before voting, just went with my cold dead heart.

then again, it may be a meaningful definition to myself only.

Ghost

it is not a horror movie.

Wait, how are ghost stories not horror?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-glwTnsFe0QA/Tp0JzXfA0AI/AAAAAAAACLM/YrAginokzzw/s1600/ghost_chase.jpg

e.mily ... it was a .gif from patrick swayze's ghost.

But neither are they mutually exclusive (ghost story/horror film)

Ghost is pretty horrifying

My memories of Onibaba are really smeary. I think I must have been falling asleep while watching it. Remember it being hella freaky

But no, point taken, I guess. Though maybe I'm more picky on the semantics... I wouldn't call the Ghost & Mrs Muir a 'ghost story', really. And I definitely wouldn't call Ghost a ghost story. More a romance that happens to feature a ghost...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NEW9asMBG6Q/S7FjuBbJaoI/AAAAAAAAAFw/0asmrF_O69U/s320/ghostdad.jpg

The prosecution rests, yer honor.

Ghost will have a new life someday as a comedy.

Again, not a 'ghost story'. A comedy that features a ghost.

xpost

So saying "it's a ghost story, not horror" doesn't really explain why something isn't horror. It's not the presense of ghosts in Topper, Ghost, etc that makes them not horror.

Ghost Dad was a comedy which involved a dad who was also a ghost.

patrick swayze's mullet was pretty frigthening.

I saw Onibaba years ago, don't remember much. Glad to see Curse of the Cat People; I voted for the first one, but thought they were both really good when I watched them back-to-back recently. Found the old lady's daughter (she only has one scene in the original) especially creepy.

Wait, how are ghost stories not horror?

it's been argued in the nominations thread that ghost stories can belong to the fantasy/"dark fantasy" genre just easily as they can to horror. suppose this is true, but it's equally true of just about every kind of supernatural being (werewolves, vampires, demons, etc). most of my favorite horror films take place at the intersection of fantasy and horror, so i'm inclined to count any at least moderately scary ghost story as horror.

and comical or romantic ghost stories are still ghost stories, just not scary ones.

i regret not voting for the original cat people.

the casper the friendly ghost movie was scary b/c it was so bad:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_h327jbSGoh0/R_6YUJP0lFI/AAAAAAAADRs/p0dKjjcFC6g/s400/casper_screen001.jpg

lotsa ghost stories that are horror (plz see every japanese film with a young girl with long black hair plz), lots that arent

haven't seen Curse in eons, liked it but preferred to include the original.

Love Curse, can't remember if I voted for it. (Agree that it's only sorta kinda horror, but w/e.)

whoa average curse of the cat people vote was 40 points

oh hey eric are you listing first place votes when they occur

I think I voted for Cat People but not Curse of the Cat People.

i can see someone voting for curse b/c it is a very good movie, but i didn't really think it was scary or creepy. maybe Simone Simon was too much a "good" ghost.

I read or heard somewhere that Lewton really pushed back against the studio on Curse; the more they tried to get him to make it just like the first one but scarier, the more he veered towards fantasy.

who was running RKO then?

oh hey eric are you listing first place votes when they occur

"One thing I'll say about Angie Dickenson and Michael Caine ... they sure are SHARP dressers!"

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90. DRESSED TO KILL
Brian De Palma, USA, 1980
(202 points, 8 votes, 1 first-place vote)

dressed to kill is a better movie than 90% of this list
― buzza, Thursday, July 28, 2011 4:09 PM (9 months ago)

I don't buy there are 5 movies on this list better than dressed to kill.
― third-generation stripper (Eric H.), Thursday, July 28, 2011 4:24 PM (9 months ago)
WORST of the Best Picture Oscar Noms (Only The '80s Edition)

Dressed to Kill was 't dus die al op de lijst stond. deze kan er ook best bij.
― Ludo, Tuesday, June 16, 2009 6:43 AM (2 years ago)

what's unique about onibaba is that it captures the desolation and seedy desperation of life in ancient times. the entire thing takes place in a swamp, where a mother and daughter feed off the chaos and disorder caused by the samurai armies ravaging the countryside. there's this primitive peasantry angle that gets exploited, almost akin to andrei rublev? but with a vengeful demon mask.

voted for cat people, but not curse.