onibaba is a fairy tale told in a savagely brutal way, with beautiful cinematography. desperately in need of a blu-ray release.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/ink_prod/photos/0232/5254/n1208885751_30710694_785503.jpg
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
I never understood why ppl started writing the title as Se7en, fuck the credits.
Will endeavor to watch Onibaba when I have time (mebbe 3 years).
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
i have never seen onibaba. get it confused w kwaidan, which is lo7ely but rather dull.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
it's almost a given that art-house Japanese films from the early/mid 1960s have stunning cinematography ... the woman in the dunes (which i debated including on my ballot) is also stunning in that regard.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
i always confuse onibaba/kwaidan/jigoku. I've seen none of them.
― a parker full of poseys (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
I much prefer onibaba to kwaidan
― original bgm, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
"The CURSE of the CAT PEOPLE was the CURSE of BLOOD!"
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7243/7209113742_f5a95f25eb_o.jpg
91. CURSE OF THE CAT PEOPLEGunther von Fritsch & Robert Wise, USA, 1944(200 points, 5 votes)
did any other film of its era deal with a child's POV so effectively?― J.D., Friday, January 18, 2008 1:26 AM (4 years ago)I love Curse for many of the same reasons I love Night of the Hunter. It doesn't read as "horror" as well to those who didn't enjoy the thrill of horror as kids.― michael assbender (Eric H.), Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:40 PM (7 months ago)I really find it hard to believe that anyone prefers Curse to the original Cat People film.― The New Dirty Vicar, Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:40 AM (6 months ago)
I love Curse for many of the same reasons I love Night of the Hunter. It doesn't read as "horror" as well to those who didn't enjoy the thrill of horror as kids.― michael assbender (Eric H.), Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:40 PM (7 months ago)
I really find it hard to believe that anyone prefers Curse to the original Cat People film.― The New Dirty Vicar, Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:40 AM (6 months ago)
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
i'm the opposite ... i prefer kwaidan to onibaba.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
Hip hip hooray for Onibaba. Great great film. The rustling grasses, the thundering storm, the cautionary tale of lust, the deep dark depths of the pit of despair.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
curse is a very good film, but i see it as more of a ghost-story than a horror film.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
Got Onibaba around 2005, viewings since: 0. Places highly on my phantom list of "Sure favorites if i'd only come around to actually watch them". I feel a bit awkward having voted for (most probably) far inferior stuff in the lower ranks of my ballot for the sake of "not cheating".
― the europan nikon is here (grauschleier), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
onibaba goatse
I had never even heard of Onibaba until I went looking for source images for screencaps & found that literally every image I came across was some combination of beautiful, unnerving and haunted as fuck. It has since rocketed to the top of my list.
― Troll 3 (Pillbox), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
Haha, grauschleier, I made sure to get around to a bunch of films on my similar list just before voting closed. Many of them make an appearance on my ballot.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
plus silence of the lambs features the fall on the soundtrack so
And SOTL and 7 both have Howard Shore scores which are very akin to one another. Shore's 7 music is perhaps even more amazingly black than his SOTL but unfortunately has never had a decent CD.
― Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
(abandoned my horror ballot early on bc I realized I hadn't seen enough horror movies to warrant voting so now I'm just along for the ride...however this results thread is awesome and Eric H your PUNgent humour is CUTTING me up)
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, May 16, 2012 5:54 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Wait, how are ghost stories not horror?
― emil.y, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
i do regret that i only had one Val Lewton on my ballot ... and i am sure that the one i voted for will make it.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
Both orig cat ppl movies remain HUGE gaps in my watching history. God I need to remedy that.
― Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
― emil.y, Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:56 PM (29 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
b/c this is also a ghost story (and it's not a horror film):
http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjAxNzk3NDQ3OV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwODU3MjE0MQ@@._V1._SY317_CR5,0,214,317_.jpg
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
The Ghost and Mrs Muir
Topper
xxxp
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
A broken image link? Chilling...
― emil.y, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
I had two Val Lewtons on my ballot -- I'm pretty sure at least one will show up later. Also def need to see Onibaba now. I did no studying whatsoever before voting, just went with my cold dead heart.
― game of crones (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
then again, it may be a meaningful definition to myself only.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
Ghost
it is not a horror movie.
― Troll 3 (Pillbox), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-glwTnsFe0QA/Tp0JzXfA0AI/AAAAAAAACLM/YrAginokzzw/s1600/ghost_chase.jpg
― Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
e.mily ... it was a .gif from patrick swayze's ghost.
But neither are they mutually exclusive (ghost story/horror film)
― MrDasher, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
Ghost is pretty horrifying
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
My memories of Onibaba are really smeary. I think I must have been falling asleep while watching it. Remember it being hella freaky
― Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
But no, point taken, I guess. Though maybe I'm more picky on the semantics... I wouldn't call the Ghost & Mrs Muir a 'ghost story', really. And I definitely wouldn't call Ghost a ghost story. More a romance that happens to feature a ghost...
― emil.y, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NEW9asMBG6Q/S7FjuBbJaoI/AAAAAAAAAFw/0asmrF_O69U/s320/ghostdad.jpg
The prosecution rests, yer honor.
― Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
Ghost will have a new life someday as a comedy.
― game of crones (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
Again, not a 'ghost story'. A comedy that features a ghost.
xpost
― emil.y, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
So saying "it's a ghost story, not horror" doesn't really explain why something isn't horror. It's not the presense of ghosts in Topper, Ghost, etc that makes them not horror.
― MrDasher, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
Ghost Dad was a comedy which involved a dad who was also a ghost.
― Troll 3 (Pillbox), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
patrick swayze's mullet was pretty frigthening.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
I saw Onibaba years ago, don't remember much. Glad to see Curse of the Cat People; I voted for the first one, but thought they were both really good when I watched them back-to-back recently. Found the old lady's daughter (she only has one scene in the original) especially creepy.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
it's been argued in the nominations thread that ghost stories can belong to the fantasy/"dark fantasy" genre just easily as they can to horror. suppose this is true, but it's equally true of just about every kind of supernatural being (werewolves, vampires, demons, etc). most of my favorite horror films take place at the intersection of fantasy and horror, so i'm inclined to count any at least moderately scary ghost story as horror.
and comical or romantic ghost stories are still ghost stories, just not scary ones.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
i regret not voting for the original cat people.
the casper the friendly ghost movie was scary b/c it was so bad:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_h327jbSGoh0/R_6YUJP0lFI/AAAAAAAADRs/p0dKjjcFC6g/s400/casper_screen001.jpg
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
lotsa ghost stories that are horror (plz see every japanese film with a young girl with long black hair plz), lots that arent
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
haven't seen Curse in eons, liked it but preferred to include the original.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
Love Curse, can't remember if I voted for it. (Agree that it's only sorta kinda horror, but w/e.)
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
whoa average curse of the cat people vote was 40 points
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
oh hey eric are you listing first place votes when they occur
I think I voted for Cat People but not Curse of the Cat People.
― MrDasher, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
i can see someone voting for curse b/c it is a very good movie, but i didn't really think it was scary or creepy. maybe Simone Simon was too much a "good" ghost.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
I read or heard somewhere that Lewton really pushed back against the studio on Curse; the more they tried to get him to make it just like the first one but scarier, the more he veered towards fantasy.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
who was running RKO then?
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link