I don't think I could argue too strenuously that se7en is not a horror film. obv it's a police procedural but the crimes are designed to horrify, general feeling of unease and dread permeates, doesn't shy away from gory details, evil wins, etc. it ain't dirty harry.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
silence of the lambs is great, so's se7en. i'd vote for both in thriller poll, but like most responding here, i don't personally consider either "my kind of horror film".
that said, i agree that se7en belongs here, mostly due to it its massive and obvious influence on the saw franchise, "torture porn" and the cinematic vocabulary of 90s/00s horror in general. it's the godfather of distressed fonts & scratchy noises, grim and gritty filth pit mise-en-scene, and elaborate yet rusty torture implements.
agree w scott seward about the sensibility on display in fincher's early films, but i think se7en pulls it off. and SOTL is full of great performances.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
yay for art-snobbery i voted for onibaba.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
oniwhatwho
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
Yay Onibaba!
― Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
jjjusten it's good you should see it
onibaba my #40
I've told this story a couple times on ilx, but my first viewing of onibaba is colored by the memory of my wife walking in during the conclusion and observing "you watch some weird shit, man"
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
oh ha i just looked it up and i have walked past that film like 1000 times at my local library because i just assumed it was another 8 hour samurai epic
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
I never traced Saw et al back to 77777, but this seems pretty otm
― Troll 3 (Pillbox), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
first thing I voted for that has placed. my #45. it's very grim. xp
― original bgm, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
itt thread a david fincher movie becomes a boredoms song
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
Now hoping that having filled the word, stray 7s will start appear7ng in other posts throughout this t7read...
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
my queue grows
― He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
onibaba is a fairy tale told in a savagely brutal way, with beautiful cinematography. desperately in need of a blu-ray release.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/ink_prod/photos/0232/5254/n1208885751_30710694_785503.jpg
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
I never understood why ppl started writing the title as Se7en, fuck the credits.
Will endeavor to watch Onibaba when I have time (mebbe 3 years).
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
i have never seen onibaba. get it confused w kwaidan, which is lo7ely but rather dull.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
it's almost a given that art-house Japanese films from the early/mid 1960s have stunning cinematography ... the woman in the dunes (which i debated including on my ballot) is also stunning in that regard.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
i always confuse onibaba/kwaidan/jigoku. I've seen none of them.
― a parker full of poseys (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
I much prefer onibaba to kwaidan
― original bgm, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
"The CURSE of the CAT PEOPLE was the CURSE of BLOOD!"
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7243/7209113742_f5a95f25eb_o.jpg
91. CURSE OF THE CAT PEOPLEGunther von Fritsch & Robert Wise, USA, 1944(200 points, 5 votes)
did any other film of its era deal with a child's POV so effectively?― J.D., Friday, January 18, 2008 1:26 AM (4 years ago)I love Curse for many of the same reasons I love Night of the Hunter. It doesn't read as "horror" as well to those who didn't enjoy the thrill of horror as kids.― michael assbender (Eric H.), Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:40 PM (7 months ago)I really find it hard to believe that anyone prefers Curse to the original Cat People film.― The New Dirty Vicar, Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:40 AM (6 months ago)
I love Curse for many of the same reasons I love Night of the Hunter. It doesn't read as "horror" as well to those who didn't enjoy the thrill of horror as kids.― michael assbender (Eric H.), Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:40 PM (7 months ago)
I really find it hard to believe that anyone prefers Curse to the original Cat People film.― The New Dirty Vicar, Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:40 AM (6 months ago)
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
i'm the opposite ... i prefer kwaidan to onibaba.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
Hip hip hooray for Onibaba. Great great film. The rustling grasses, the thundering storm, the cautionary tale of lust, the deep dark depths of the pit of despair.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
curse is a very good film, but i see it as more of a ghost-story than a horror film.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
Got Onibaba around 2005, viewings since: 0. Places highly on my phantom list of "Sure favorites if i'd only come around to actually watch them". I feel a bit awkward having voted for (most probably) far inferior stuff in the lower ranks of my ballot for the sake of "not cheating".
― the europan nikon is here (grauschleier), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
onibaba goatse
I had never even heard of Onibaba until I went looking for source images for screencaps & found that literally every image I came across was some combination of beautiful, unnerving and haunted as fuck. It has since rocketed to the top of my list.
― Troll 3 (Pillbox), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
Haha, grauschleier, I made sure to get around to a bunch of films on my similar list just before voting closed. Many of them make an appearance on my ballot.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
plus silence of the lambs features the fall on the soundtrack so
And SOTL and 7 both have Howard Shore scores which are very akin to one another. Shore's 7 music is perhaps even more amazingly black than his SOTL but unfortunately has never had a decent CD.
― Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
(abandoned my horror ballot early on bc I realized I hadn't seen enough horror movies to warrant voting so now I'm just along for the ride...however this results thread is awesome and Eric H your PUNgent humour is CUTTING me up)
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, May 16, 2012 5:54 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Wait, how are ghost stories not horror?
― emil.y, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
i do regret that i only had one Val Lewton on my ballot ... and i am sure that the one i voted for will make it.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
Both orig cat ppl movies remain HUGE gaps in my watching history. God I need to remedy that.
― Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
― emil.y, Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:56 PM (29 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
b/c this is also a ghost story (and it's not a horror film):
http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjAxNzk3NDQ3OV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwODU3MjE0MQ@@._V1._SY317_CR5,0,214,317_.jpg
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
The Ghost and Mrs Muir
Topper
xxxp
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
A broken image link? Chilling...
― emil.y, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
I had two Val Lewtons on my ballot -- I'm pretty sure at least one will show up later. Also def need to see Onibaba now. I did no studying whatsoever before voting, just went with my cold dead heart.
― game of crones (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
then again, it may be a meaningful definition to myself only.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
Ghost
it is not a horror movie.
― Troll 3 (Pillbox), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-glwTnsFe0QA/Tp0JzXfA0AI/AAAAAAAACLM/YrAginokzzw/s1600/ghost_chase.jpg
― Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
e.mily ... it was a .gif from patrick swayze's ghost.
But neither are they mutually exclusive (ghost story/horror film)
― MrDasher, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
Ghost is pretty horrifying
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
My memories of Onibaba are really smeary. I think I must have been falling asleep while watching it. Remember it being hella freaky
― Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
But no, point taken, I guess. Though maybe I'm more picky on the semantics... I wouldn't call the Ghost & Mrs Muir a 'ghost story', really. And I definitely wouldn't call Ghost a ghost story. More a romance that happens to feature a ghost...
― emil.y, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NEW9asMBG6Q/S7FjuBbJaoI/AAAAAAAAAFw/0asmrF_O69U/s320/ghostdad.jpg
The prosecution rests, yer honor.
― Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
Ghost will have a new life someday as a comedy.
― game of crones (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
Again, not a 'ghost story'. A comedy that features a ghost.
xpost
― emil.y, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
So saying "it's a ghost story, not horror" doesn't really explain why something isn't horror. It's not the presense of ghosts in Topper, Ghost, etc that makes them not horror.
― MrDasher, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
Ghost Dad was a comedy which involved a dad who was also a ghost.
― Troll 3 (Pillbox), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
patrick swayze's mullet was pretty frigthening.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link