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― Nhex, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 05:33 (eleven years ago) link
recently I was told that a cafe is bring run by 'the chinese' (by which she meant 'a family of east asian descent')
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 05:35 (eleven years ago) link
idk know why their genealogy was a crucial element of who's running the cafe
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 05:36 (eleven years ago) link
I can't really back this up though this is mainly going on my old cookbooks from the fifties/sixties which often have some "for a change of pace, try a rice dish" thing - looks like on some quick googling that rice was being grown in the colonies from 1694 so I'm guessing the "eat more rice" thing is more of an "increase sales" deal than a "make people think of rice as a thing you eat" one, I don't know, I need a grant for further research on this
― cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 05:39 (eleven years ago) link
I'll PayPal you $3.25
― raw feel vegan (silby), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 05:45 (eleven years ago) link
God all we ever ate when I was a kid was either plain boiled rice, or boiled potatoes and green beans, as sides. Blech.
― Pureed Moods (Trayce), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 05:54 (eleven years ago) link
The difference between Polo and Chelow is not the way the rice is cooked but rather Chelow is referred to as plain rice which is served with a stew or kebab (chelow khoresh badenjan, chelow kabab) while Polo is rice mixed with something (such as Baghali Polo, Zereshk polo, Loubia Polo etc.)
well there's five of my mom's seven dinners right there
― the late great, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 06:29 (eleven years ago) link
in a week i mean
Traditionally, rice was most prevalent as a major staple item in the rice growing region of northern Iran, and the homes of the wealthy, while in the rest of the country bread was the dominant staple
yyyyyeaaaaahhhhh
― the late great, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 06:30 (eleven years ago) link
In the 60s we rarely had rice with dinner, and when we did it was Uncle Ben's "minute rice." I do remember when we lived in Michigan we had rice for breakfast in winter sometimes, with milk on it, as a break from Malto-Meal.
x-post. Also grown in the Sacramento delta area. I think we sold a lot to Japan when they had a shortage a few years ago.
― nickn, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 06:44 (eleven years ago) link
I had the idea late last night that there should be an "Is This Racist" lightning round thread.
― this guy's a gangsta? his real name's mittens. (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
is this Ricist?
― Mark Ruffalo! is gonna tell us! about empathy! (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
SEND THE MESSAGE TO PRIME 6: Indie Music Will Earn You More Than Hip-Hop!!!
My name is Jennifer McMillen, and I live only a few doors down from the proposed site of Prime 6. Like most of the folks at the CB6 meeting on Monday night, I too have been concerned about the impending entrance of Prime 6 into our community and our daily lives.
I'm not generally the type of person that speaks up, (I remained silent during the entire Monday night meeting), but in this situation, I'm hopeful that I've stumbled onto a solution that makes so much sense for *both* parties that I'm beyond excited to share it with all of you.
First, let me explain what's at the heart of this conflict: I know for a fact that there's no single type of establishment (or type of bar/club patron for that matter) that Park Slopers would inherently view as "undesirable." I don't think anyone would deny that Park Slopers are about the least "racist" people on the planet.
What IS causing strife in this situation is that over the last ten years, Park Slope has become a family-oriented and family-centric community. This can be annoying at times - believe me, as someone who has chosen not to have children, I'm more than aware of the self-entitled attitude that often pervades parts of our community.
Nevertheless, it's just a fact that in this neighborhood, family comes first.
Prime 6 has to realize this - but at the same time - Park Slope families need to realize that this is a free country, and that Prime 6 has a right to exist. Furthermore, no one can legally stop the owners from doing what it is they're going to do.
So here's the gist of my big idea: Isn't there some middle ground between this spot being a stroller repair shop and it being a full-on hip-hop club?
No one can change the fact that Prime 6 WILL exist - they have their liquor license, and nothing's going to deter them from opening. BUT: What if owner Akiva Ofshtein could be convinced that his business will see far more financial success as a different kind of nightlife establishment. Instead of focussing on hip-hop and urban entertainment, what if Prime 6 embraced some of the more indie local artists of ALL races who live and perform in the area.
It's not "racist" to equate hip-hop with an elevated crime rate vis a vi other types of musical genres - It's just a statistical fact that crime is more likely to occur among urban audiences than among audiences of other demographics. R&B and rap happen to be my two favorite types of music, but no one (especially my African American friends and colleagues) would seriously deny that hip-hop's violent history tragically precedes it.
In addition, conveniently(!), we also happen to be in the middle of an unprecedented drought of live music. Seventh Ave has ZERO venues for live music by indie artists, and is absolutely ripe for the right type of establishment to come along and breathe life into the live music scene. The business owner who is able to do THAT will reap financial rewards far beyond what they could hope to earn by selling Henessey/etc to basketball fans after a Nets game.
Not only will Akiva Ofshtein make more money by creating a sustainable business that uses social media to bring crowd-drawing acts to Prime 6, he'll also find that by working alongside the community he's joining, he'll build loyal allies in the neighbors around him - INSTEAD of the hostility we saw at the CB6 meeting and on the internet on Tuesday.
After all, which one of Prime 6's direct neighbors wouldn't be forever grateful to Ofshtein for seeding a vibrant artistic hub instead of another Yo MTV Raps "bling-bling" vip club.
As a Park slope resident that has lived steps from Flatbush avenue since 1998, I've seen the neighborhood change drastically in the last 12 years, and I'm well aware of the gentrification sensitivities that have been part of the neighborhood fabric for at least the last decade - so let me tell you first-hand:
We've waited a long time to get to this point: for once, this isn't a question of race or even class. My hope is that artists and art-appreciators OF EVERY IMAGINABLE BACKGROUND will band together to make this happen - to that end, please tweet and tweet and re-tweet: sign this petition to let Prime 6's owner know what he stands to GAIN by embracing independent LIVE music; and by steering clear of processed, commercial noise.
― sarahell, Thursday, 17 May 2012 05:54 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, that is racist.
― raw feel vegan (silby), Thursday, 17 May 2012 06:11 (eleven years ago) link
also old, and fake
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 May 2012 06:19 (eleven years ago) link
o
― raw feel vegan (silby), Thursday, 17 May 2012 06:20 (eleven years ago) link
it's fake?
― sarahell, Thursday, 17 May 2012 06:21 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it was a prank
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 May 2012 06:25 (eleven years ago) link
by whom?
― sarahell, Thursday, 17 May 2012 06:26 (eleven years ago) link
some person who thought it would be funny I don't remember, all the details are on the downtown Brooklyn thread iirc
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 May 2012 06:27 (eleven years ago) link
...blah blah selling Henessey/etc to basketball fans after a Nets game.
^ kind of gives the game away
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 06:48 (eleven years ago) link
haha is that still going around
― max, Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:52 (eleven years ago) link
“go-to spot for farm-to-table food, super steaks, fresh fish, venison, bison burgers, etc.”
― how's life, Thursday, 17 May 2012 11:25 (eleven years ago) link
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703300904576178812393548284.html
At a recent meeting, most locals who turned out in force to air gripes about the establishment—tentatively called Prime 6 and set to open in May—didn't know a Ms. McMillen. Efforts by The Wall Street Journal to find a person with that name in New York City were unsuccessful.
― max, Thursday, 17 May 2012 11:43 (eleven years ago) link
Huge 30 Rock x-post, but I'm pretty sure the...
re: first episode, playing in traffic in your underwear screaming 'i am a jedi' speaks more to tracy morgan's experience
...was a reference to Martin Lawrence ('On May 7, 1996, comedian Martin Lawrence suffered a nervous breakdown. Lawrence was picked up by police for standing in the middle of a busy, mid-day Los Angeles intersection and screaming at cars. Although he said it was due to exhaustion and dehydration, his behavior was symptomatic of a mental breakdown...' / from http://www.blackhealthzone.com).
― Walter Galt, Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:43 (eleven years ago) link
is www.blackhealthzone.com racist?
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
Because it's all about the health problems mainly faced by people of African descent? I wouldn't think so.
― pplains, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
yeah why would it be racist?
― dayo, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
Health is an issue where you can't be color-blind. Are you a black male? Guess what, you're more likely to die of a heart attack than a white male of the same age. There's a score of other health-related problems that affect blacks more.
Now why isn't there a whitehealthzone.com? I dunno, maybe because all it would be about is how to survive zipline accidents and Mountain Dew poisoning.
― pplains, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
khaki burns
― goole, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
yeah why would it be racist?― dayo
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
Are you trying to start an argument, Mr. Forks?
― pplains, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
not at all, falling back now
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
ha yeah people really jumped on you about that, i thought what you were doing was pretty obvious
― that's why god made kokomo (some dude), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
from now on, i will look at any inquiry from forks twice to spot ulterior motives before continuing to answer his question in a respectable fashion.
― pplains, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
oh will you?
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
no I won't, falling back now
― pplains, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
is this wiki page racist? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American
― Mordy, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link
trying to imagine a black guy on a zipline or wearing khakis or eating sandwiches even LOL
― He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, and I just realized that you were just taking blackhealthzone.com from the comment made about 30 Rock.
I don't watch 30 Rock, so I haven't been paying close attention to this thread lately.
― pplains, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link
pplains, it's all love
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link
er, xpost
pplainslovezone.com
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
don't click on that at work
― pplains, Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
pplains got chastized for clicking on pplainslovezone.com at work. repeatedly.
― He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
http://rareseeds.com/ching-chang-bok-choy.html
― mh, Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
last nights 30 rock episode was pretty great in terms of the stuff we were talking abt itt
― max, Friday, 18 May 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link
i mean in terms of "being smart and challenging about race"
that being said margaret cho's kim jong il is..... something
― max, Friday, 18 May 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link
― mh, Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
this is probably just a romanization of 清江白菜 using a wade-giles type system
― dayo, Friday, 18 May 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
xp that something is straight up horrible. i mean, at least they got an Asian to play it (i still remember Amy Poehler), but ugh, still
― Nhex, Friday, 18 May 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
thx dayo!
― mh, Friday, 18 May 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link