(THIS) POLL REVERE(S) — ILM Artist Poll #19 — Beastie Boys RESULTS

Hold It Now is my #1, easy

oh ed you're just jealous it's the BEA STIE BOYS

ha

did you vote whiney?

it was OK but seemed like a "she's on it" retread

Perhaps. I prefer to view it as a refinement of a previously attempted style.

ha

did you vote whiney?
--diamanda ram dass (Edward III)

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I mean, "Fight For Your Right" and "Girls" are barely rap songs, which is why they rank so low for me. Even alt-rock stuff like "Sabotage" and "Gratitude" have more rapping on them!

"Hold It" and "New Style" were probably the purest "of-their-era" rap songs in the entire Beasties discography, which is why its probably been sampled the most by rappers!

my appreciation of "fight for your right" has nothing to do with how rap it is or isn't. i just like it.

but that's me. don't suppose there's anything wrong with rapness rankings.

I feel like Sabotage and Gratitude have equally as much rap as FFYR, but get the rock thing so much more correct.

Cosign.

my appreciation of "fight for your right" has nothing to do with how rap it is or isn't. i just like it.

― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:18 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

but that's me. don't suppose there's anything wrong with rapness rankings.

― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:19 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'll get this out of the way before JF gets back to his countdown...So "I just like it" is okay, but "I just heard it too often" is cause for the third degree; and "don't suppose there's anything wrong with rapness rankings," but there is something wrong with basing your list on what you happen to like best when you make up the list? Just trying to get this straight.

FFYRTP was on my list, but relatively low. I was 7 when it came out. I'm not really fussed by LTI much at all. PB through HN are "my" Beastie Boys, and that's cool with me.

rapness

read this as rapanese

I didn't vote for 'FFYR' but that's only because there are 20+ other BBs songs I prefer - I still think it's great. Think I mentioned in the voting thread but 'Intergalactic' is the only one of theirs I actually got sick of - I loved it when it first came out but I just heard it so many times in crap bars/rock clubs and it wore thin in a way that their other big songs didn't. It's not like I think this means it was actually a crap song all along but my ballot was based on what I like *now* and right now it'd be nowhere near my top 20.

Dug out the Sounds of Science anthology and the sleevenotes are great - each song gets discussed by one member.

Yauch on Fight For Your Right: "It was a joke that went too far… So I guess that the story could have a couple of possible morals. One might be, 'Be careful of what you make fun of or you might become it.'"

Yauch on Song for the Man: "Listening to the lyrics of this song, one might say that the Beastie Boy 'Fight for Your Right to Party' guy is a hypocrite. Well, maybe; but in this fucked up world all you can hope for is change, and I'd rather be a hypocrite to you than a zombie forever."

(xpost) Same here. Sorry for even bringing it up again--yesterday's detour around "Fight for Your Right" just struck me as really strange. But I know the Top 20 is today, so I won't mention the matter again. Final irony: I actually almost voted for "Fight for Your Right" (on a very abbreviated ballot), but instead went with a couple of the other metallish songs on Licensed, both of which still hit me full-force when relistened to some stuff (trying to figure out what I could and couldn't play for my students when I discussed MCA's death).

I feel like Sabotage and Gratitude have equally as much rap as FFYR, but get the rock thing so much more correct.

― how's life, Wednesday, May 16, 2012 4:53 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if you don't think Sabotage has more actual rap than FFYR, then I don't know what

did you vote whiney?

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― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:29 PM (Yesterday)

then I think that guarantees "hold it now hit it" placing :)

not to be all "old deej" about it too, but before "FFYR" and "No Sleep" were all over rock stations and MTV, "Hold It Now" was the song that actually resonated on rap radio in the 80s. Lots of Elvisy stories about dudes not knowing they where white etc etc. It really is the "heads" choice if that means anything to anyone, and it obviously does every time D-40 makes fun of me for liking "Cadillacs on 22s"

^ this is all true but I voted for "hold it now" cuz it was a jam then and it's a jam now, the bass hits on that are superb for alltimes

and not to pull some losing my edge shit here but really whiney how old were you in 1986?

I'll get this out of the way before JF gets back to his countdown...So "I just like it" is okay, but "I just heard it too often" is cause for the third degree; and "don't suppose there's anything wrong with rapness rankings," but there is something wrong with basing your list on what you happen to like best when you make up the list? Just trying to get this straight.

― clemenza, Wednesday, May 16, 2012 3:20 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i gave you a hard time because i was (not really) incensed at the low placement of "fight for your right", and i suspect that a lot of people elided or slighted it due to its onetime ubiquity and/or obviousness. wanted to strike a small blow for "first love best love", not that any of this really matters.

with whiney, i was just lolling at the absurdity of rating beastie boys songs according to their rapness.

It's a good thing all your suspicions were wrong and you apologized for it.

xposts to clemenza: fwiw sometimes I think I'm not cutout for music polls, much as I enjoy them. Mainly because I'm not grown up enough to brush off a song I love polling lower than I want it to. seems like a lot of ilxors itt ranked Fight a lot lower than I expected, and so I just need to put on my big girl pants and get over it, lol

honestly I don't think there's anything wrong with basing your ballot of what you want to hear now. which is a long-winded way of saying, um, truce?

Get a grip VG, spats are the essence of these polls.

50. "GIRLS" (1986) [83 points, 5 votes]
49. "SHE'S ON IT" (1985) [93 points, 4 votes]
TIE 47. "TIME FOR LIVIN'" (1992) [95 points, 5 votes]
TIE 47. "FINGER LICKIN' GOOD" (1992) [95 points, 5 votes]
46. "FLUTE LOOP" (1994) [104 points, 5 votes]
45. "ROCK HARD" (1985) [115 points, 5 votes]
44. "SONG FOR THE MAN" (1998) [126 points, 8 votes]
43. "BODHISATTVA VOW" (1994) [128 points, 6 votes]
42. "POSSE IN EFFECT" (1986) [136 points, 4 votes, 1 first place vote]
41. "3 MINUTE RULE" (1989) [138 points, 6 votes]
40. "JOHNNY RYALL" (1989) [143 points, 9 votes]
39. "THREE MC'S AND ONE DJ" (1998) [145 points, 8 votes]
38. "SKILLS TO PAY THE BILLS" (1992) [152 points, 8 votes]
37. "SOMETHING'S GOT TO GIVE" (1992) [157 points, 7 points]
36. "REMOTE CONTROL" (1998) [169 points, 9 votes]
35. "B-BOYS MAKIN' WITH THE FREAK FREAK" (1994) [172 points, 8 votes]
34. "HIGH PLAINS DRIFTER" (1989) [202 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
33. "COOKY PUSS" (1983) [202 points, 11 votes]
32. "THE MOVE" (1998) [227 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
31. "SHE'S CRAFTY" (1986) [234 points, 11 votes]
30. "BODY MOVIN'" (1998) [250 points, 12 votes]
29. "STAND TOGETHER" (1992) [252 points, 14 votes]
28. "THE NEGOTIATION LIMERICK FILE" (1998) [264 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote]
27. "SUPER DISCO BREAKIN'" (1998) [283 points, 13 votes]
26. "I DON'T KNOW" (1998) [295 points, 13 votes]
25. "JIMMY JAMES" (1992) [323 points, 15 votes]
24. "PROFESSOR BOOTY" (1992) [331 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]
23. "FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT (TO PARTY)" (1986) [334 points, 15 votes]
22. "EGG MAN" (1989) [334 points, 16 votes, 1 first place vote]
21. "BRASS MONKEY" (1986) [346 points, 16 votes]

Breaking into the top 20 in just a few minutes...

xp I thought part of the fun of poll results was to get comically irate for five minutes about something which doesn't matter. I'm never actually that bothered. Apart from when people voted Autechre the best dance duo of the 90s - fuck those guys.

It's a good thing all your suspicions were wrong and you apologized for it.

lol, eat my shorts

http://youtu.be/pKNmLMs7ugw?t=29m26s

20. "CAR THIEF" (1989) [359 points, 16 votes, 1 first place vote]

Car Thief is great but the demo is even better.

yeah the demos is *nasty* innit. way nastier than anything off ..ILL lyrically iirc.

Car Thief is cool. I like the way it dovetails onto the back of Looking Down the Barrel of a Gun, they kind of feel like two parts of the same song

^ otm

http://youtu.be/aBG1AUYxu4Y

Dust Joint [Car Thief Demo]

<3 that "car thief" demo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSYsIrzwU7c

19. "THE NEW STYLE" (1986) [361 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote]

No big deal--I was just fighting for my right to say, "That's a great song I used to love, I just wore it out." Onward!

with whiney, i was just lolling at the absurdity of rating beastie boys songs according to their rapness.

― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:13 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

whyever would a rap fan do this to one of the most important rap groups ever?

whiney do you want me to tag you in for an IA rant? let me know

contenderizer's whole "it's nor REEEALLY rap anymore" attitude when white new york punkrats or white Tumblr teenagers do it is mad tiresome

white Tumblr teenagers

Plz don't pollute this beautiful poll thread, k thx.

Questlove wrote some cool stuff abt MCA/Beasties after he passed, this part is worth quoting re: The New Style

(Circa 95, Roots on tour with the Beasties) ...it was just the four of us. shooting some hoops in the truck storage area (a tradition for those guys before showtime) and they were already to switch up some songs in the lineup. i played the back grabbing rebounds passing it back to them kinda like a ball boy’s role for the team about to hit the court warming up.—they were a song short in the new lineup and were tryna figure out what they could muster up. so then i went for the gusto:

“how about “The New Style”? y’all aint done that in like forever.—-

there was silence….

and then…

“wait who starts it?…..

“center stage on the mic….”

“because your girlfriend is cattin….”

“ahmir what’s my line?……”

“oh yeah ‘Father To Many Married To None…..”

‘should we just do 2 verses?”

i lost it “y’all crazy?!?! the breakdown is the best part of the entire song! why do “New Style” if you don’t let all the fly “skimmers feel the beat…..mmmmmmmm drop!”

i convinced em.

they rehearsed the song like 4 times in a row acapella to an audience of me as Dave Seville meets Doug Fresh (what you thought i was gonna let them do my JAM and me not keep the beat?)

http://www.okayplayer.com/news/mca-what-does-it-mean-by-questlove.html

aw

I know right? warm and fuzzies

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whyever would a rap fan do this to one of the most important rap groups ever?

i like punkrock. i do not rate the quality of punk songs according to their punkness.
i like jazz. i do not rate the quality of jazz songs according to their jazzness.
i like rap. i do not rate the quality of rap songs according to their rapness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf1YF_MH1xc

18. "ROOT DOWN" (1994) [362 points, 16 votes]

idgi
xp
'Root Down' i totally get!

Root Down is just so goddamn funky I love it. Even when I think I'm tired of it, it's still got...somethin'

"Root Down" is dope