there are subtle nuances in every single one of those EXCELSIORS, I'll have you LOL

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwwq9yQNib1qz7lxdo1_500.gif

story problemz

So we've reached the 'subtle nuances' part of the thread, I see

(I had a previous idea for a book on writing sitcoms that basically boiled down to: DO write like seasons 1-5 of Rosanne, DON'T write like seasons 7-9 of Roseanne. Season 6 was a bit of a gray area, but also was just after she'd had extensive plastic surgery so it was, perhaps, instructive in its own way.)

― Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, May 17, 2012 8:14 AM (26 minutes ago)

it's when they added that extra E that things went bad

― some dude, Thursday, May 17, 2012 8:37 AM (3 minutes ago)

EEXACTLY.

― Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, May 17, 2012 8:40 AM (7 seconds ago)

the last episode of roseanne is the most crazy thing ever

i never saw it, but reading this, holy shit:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070715224343AAcGBJw

Here's what happened on Roseanne: Dan collapsed of a heart attack at Darlene's wedding to David. Dan survived, because DJ performed CPR on Dan until the paramedics arrived. This was towards the end of the eighth season. In the second episode of the ninth season, Jackie reveals that they all won the lottery. The ninth season is kind of crazy now that they are rich. However, the series finale is one of the most agitating retcons in television history. A retcon, in case you didn't know is when they go back and change an already established fact. Roseanne, in a final narration, reveals that everything from the last season was made up by her to deal with Dan's death (he actually did die) and some things from before that she made up too.

(Closing monologue, in basement, writing)
Roseanne: Everyone wonders where creative people get their inspiration. Actually, I’ve found it’s all around you. Take Leon for instance… Leon is not really as cool as I made him. He’s the only gay guy I know who belongs to the Elk’s Club... Then there’s Scott. He really is a probate lawyer I met about a year ago and introduced to Leon. I guess I didn’t get too creative there… A lot of kids have called my son a nerd but, as I told him, they called Steven Spielberg a nerd too. A lot of times nerds are really artists who just listen to the beat of a different drum… My mom came from a generation where women were supposed to be submissive about everything. I never bought into that, and I wish mom hadn’t either. I wish she had made different choices. So I think that’s why I made her gay. I wanted her to have some sense of herself as a woman… Oh yeah, and she’s nuts… My sister, in real life, unlike my mother, is gay. She always told me she was gay, but for some reason, I always pictured her with a man. She’s been my rock, and I would not have made it this far without her. I guess Nancy’s kind of my hero too… Cause she got out of a terrible marriage and found a great spiritual strength. I don’t know what happened to that husband of hers but in my book I sent him into outer space… When Becky brought David home a few years ago I thought, “This is wrong!” He was much more Darlene’s type… When Darlene met Mark, I thought he went better with Becky… I guess I was wrong. But I still think they’d be more compatible the other way around. So in my writing, I did what any good mother would do. I fixed it… I lost Dan last year when he had his heart attack. He’s still the first thing I think about when I wake up and the last thing I think about before I go to sleep. I miss him… Dan and I always felt that it was our responsibility as parents to improve the lives of our children by 50% over our own. And we did. We didn’t hit our children as we were hit, we didn’t demand their unquestioning silence, and we didn’t teach our daughters to sacrifice more than our sons. As a modern wife, I walked a tight rope between tradition and progress, and usually, I failed, by one outsider’s standards or another’s. But I figured out that neither winning nor losing count for women like they do for men. We women are the one’s who transform everything we touch. And nothing on earth is higher than that. My writing’s really what got me through the last year after Dan died. I mean at first I felt so betrayed as if he had left me for another woman. When you’re a blue-collar woman and your husband dies it takes away your whole sense of security. So I began writing about having all the money in the world and I imagined myself going to spas and swanky New York parties just like the people on TV, where nobody has any real problems and everything’s solved within 30 minutes. I tried to imagine myself as Mary Richards, Jeannie, That Girl. But I was so angry I was more like a female Steven Segal wanting to fight the whole world. For a while I lost myself in food and a depression so deep that I couldn’t even get out of bed till I saw that my family needed me to pull through so that they could pull through. One day, I actually imagined being with another man. But then I felt so guilty I had to pretend it was for some altruistic reason. And then Darlene had the baby, and it almost died. I snapped out of the mourning immediately, and all of my life energy turned into choosing life. In choosing life, I realized that my dreams of being a writer wouldn’t just come true; I had to do the work. And as I wrote about my life, I relived it, and whatever I didn’t like, I rearranged. I made a commitment to finish my story even if I had to write in the basement in the middle of the night while everyone else was asleep. But the more I wrote, the more I understood myself and why I had made the choices I made, and that was the real jackpot. I learned that dreams don’t work without action; I learned that no one could stop me but me. I learned that love is stronger than hate. And most important, I learned that God does exist. He and/or She is right inside you, underneath the pain, the sorrow, and the shame. I think I’ll be a lot better now that this book is done.

(voiceovers from Roseanne's birthday episode years back)
D.J.: Happy birthday, Mom. Here, pencils.
Darlene: Yeah, and I got you some notepads.
Becky: And I got you a dictionary and a thesaurus.
Dan: You know Stephen King started this way.
(Roseanne heads out of the basement).

That was one of the most wtf endings I've ever seen.

With each passing movie revealed, I get nervous the next one's gonna be The Human Centipede. The higher we get, the higher go the nerves.

― The Thnig, Thursday, May 17, 2012 2:07 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

With each passing movie revealed, I get nervous the next one's gonna be The Human Centipede. The higher we get, the higher go the nerves.

lol it's like the napoleon dynamite of horror movies!!!

― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Thursday, May 17, 2012 2:08 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

with more segments

― remy bean, Thursday, May 17, 2012 2:08 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Would watch a version with Napoleon, Kip and Pedro sewn together. In that order.

― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Thursday, May 17, 2012 2:10 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

St. Elsewhere
Roseanne
Newhart
Dallas

what else?

The "it was allllll a dream!" bit wasn't the finale of Dallas, though.

i kinda want to watch the last few seasons of Roseanne.

also remy: Lost, duh.

oy. life on mars (american, kind of...)

xpost

I honestly do think there's a direct link between Roseanne's plastic surgery and the beginning of the show's decline. They're almost shockingly concurrent. It devolved very quickly into Roseanne's Snipey, Call-And-Response, Boilerplate Sitcom Jokey-Joke Time right after her face lost the ability to form anything but vaguely disgusted expressions.

I never saw the last few Roseanne series' but that's one hell of an ending.

I think so, anyway..

i just think "oh remember Hardees?" "oh they're called carl's junior here!" "have you ever had a hoagie?" "hoagie? its called a grinder!" "my cousin worked at burger king one summer!" "one time i puked at burger king!" is the usually the dumbest most boring shit ever and it happens to good threads

― ♆ (gr8080), Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hardees were a totally diff restaurant until they were bought by carls jr in the mid 90s, ive never eaten at hardees and I made up the part abt the mid 90s, but its true they used to be dif, iirc, I def ate at carls jr a couple times, also the girls in front of me on the airport shuttle from lax last week were commenting on every west coast specific fast food place like we dont have that in Tennessee I heard Carlls. jr is good, little did they know its the same as hardees, they were prob too young to remember the pre sale carls jr, also they took a picture of the shuttle before it left the airport then later the borrowed my phone because theirs was out of batts I guess because of taking pics of the shuttle etc

― lag∞n, Friday, May 18, 2012 12:41 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^ effortfully but successfully summarizes the etc.

didn't see the last episode of roseanne, but that closing monologue is amazing

xxp they're called 'takeaways' over here i don't think we have any carl jrs or arby's tho

third world problems

I remember watching roseanne religiously, but have zero recollection of the final season. I remember everything up to Dan's heartattack.

Maybe I died too.

That last season was a real hate letter to the fans. Every other episode was a 'fantasy' episode, the family won the lottery and turned into the Beverly Hillbillies, Dan was off galivanting around with another woman for half the season. And yet they still expected the odd dramatic moment to have emotional resonance. It's no wonder you blocked it out.

or maybe he just didn't watch it, like the overwhelming majority of people who watched the first 7 or 8 seasons. i think i got off the bus gradually during season 5 and 6.

Smart man.

If I could fly
I'd pick you up
I'd take you back to my lair
And bathe in your blood

― Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare),

hahahaha

awesome

I mentioned upthread that when I saw Sabbath a decade ago, I thought Ward was having trouble keeping up. This was after his return from his heart attack. But then, he did keep up, so I'm not sure what the prob is. Maybe he got worse? But of course, if he couldn't do it, it's not a "I think I can, I think I can" situation. If he couldn't do it he couldn't fake it, so it seems unlikely that performance is an issue.

Geezer and Ozzy have it easy. All Geezer has to do is sleep through his rote-simple (but don't get me wrong, still awesome!) riffs, and Ozzy just has to be subtle about peeing his pants.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, May 18, 2012 1:29 PM (1 hour ago)

at least he's being subtle about something for once

― bailiwaka flocka (some dude), Friday, May 18, 2012 1:31 PM (1 hour ago)

By "subtle" I meant "subtly dumping buckets of water over himself to hide the fact that he is incontinent."

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, May 18, 2012 1:35 PM (1 hour ago)

so that's what the subtle nuances are

well done

ppl upthread are crazy, life aquatic is his best film

― Mordy, Saturday, May 19, 2012 10:17 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's his best movie with the word aquatic in the title but if you then go on to include all of the movies he has made that do not have that word in the title then it suffers badly by comparison

― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Saturday, May 19, 2012 10:24 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/yq2hX.jpg

idk I thought the aquatic tenenbaums was just a tad better than the life aquatic

aquatic mr. fox >>> all other aquatics

Aquatic Rocket all the way.

I'll take The Darquatic Ltd.

Aquatic Life Aquatic

no fooling though, aquatic mister fox is funniest

Especially the part where he drowned five minutes into the film.

no, that was the hottest part

10.0

he couldnt deliver a show his bosses were satisfied with?

like idk i had this whole sarcastic thing about how rare it is in hollywood to find a verbally abusive writer with a drinking problem and an inflated sense of their own importance or w/e but harmon fought publicly with the shows biggest star and 'privately' with other writers/producers delivered shows late had problems managing budget/time seemed to actively delight in not compromising w/the studio blah blah blah

― Lamp, Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:45 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the dude calls his blog dan harmon poops... what a visionary

― Lamp, Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:46 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah but your blog is called Lampfelches

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:47 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Re: Erica Jong's discussion of 40 Shades Of Grey's implausibility and poor use of coital exclamations:

“Argh,” she says, losing her virginity.

this is hilarious

― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:08 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I love that she says "argh" like she's Cathy.

― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:08 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Ack!" she says, losing her virginity as she crams chocolates into her mouth.

― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:10 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wait, is "'Argh' she says, losing her virginity" really a line in 40 Shades?

Yes, and I think it's 50 shades

I believe that's Jong's summation of that particular passage, but I believe the dialogue was translated faithfully.

I totally forgot about ten of the shades. My bad.

this killed me:

maybe she's a pirate?

― remy bean, Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:08 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think it's 50 shades

Shade inflation's terrible, n'est-ce pas?

There must be...fifty shades to lose your virginity.