They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

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i think the only question left at this point for any sci fi fan who's been watching the trailers is whether the planet is lv426 or not

the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

Glad they're keeping it nice and yucky.

bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

man, i get the googlies just thinking about this shit

anyway, opening shot in that trailer looks a bit too "digital" for my tastes, esp the "prometheus" and weyland logo branding. suppose they'll refine that for release?

Yeah that clip's been severely edited down. The Prometheus logo's superimposed (I guess they think anybody watching the clip is too dumb to realize that the ship is called Prometehus).

bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

i think the only question left at this point for any sci fi fan who's been watching the trailers is whether the planet is lv426 or not

― the late great, Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:49 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, it's hard to tell. It looks like a different planet, but the big ringed gas giant in the background of some of the shots seems to give away that it's at least in the same system. The alien spaceship crashing in the trailers is clearly of the same type as the derelict from the first movie, but whether it's the exact same one is hard to tell. I kinda hope it isn't. I'd rather this story be more self-contained.

bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

there's clip somewhere were ridley scott says the system is zeta (2) reticuli which is the one mentioned in alien, so...

DG, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

i didn't realize lv426 was in zeta reticuli, that would seem to nail it down then

the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

looks like it

starts on lv-223, ends on lv-426, with a hazily-remembered detour on lv-420 along the way

bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

heh

the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

i must say this bald dude looks like a pretty lame substitute for an alien

the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

i know. this is such an elaborate way to reboot the Kojak franchise.

bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

re: bald villians i feel like bane looks pretty damn lame too, can't believe they didn't go with the riddler

the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe it's just zombie Picard.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

locutus of borg

the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

difficult listening hour suggested "locutus of cat" as a pet name on this thread, and now i can no longer conceive of it as the name of an awful space villain. i only hear the "cute" part. locutus! i want to hug you and squeeze you and smush you little cutus face!

wasn't it lolcuetest?

the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link

I AM LOLCUETEST OF BORG!

the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link

got imax tickets for june 5. stoked while at the same time thinking the amazing collision of scott, o'bannon, giger, cobb, giler, hill, weaver, and the hundred other personnel and just random factors that made alien the phenomenon it is can't possibly be repeated.

Touché Gödel (ledge), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah definitely.

bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link

that's like wondering if the new coppola film will be as good as the godfather. I'm psyched for this too but do ppl really think this is going to be anywhere near the same level as alien?

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 00:31 (eleven years ago) link

no

this might not be the level of alien3

the late great, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 00:55 (eleven years ago) link

Meantime, an 'origins featurette,' with Ridley talking about things etc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LXHC_HOg7FA

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link

amazing collision of scott, o'bannon, giger, cobb, giler, hill, weaver, and

Goldsmith!

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zwEtldZQNew

Noomi Rapace takes Weyland Corp's empathy test ("We call it Voight-Kampf for short").

Have to hand it to the Alien: Episode 1 marketing dept for their world-building advertising campaign.

DavidM, Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:51 (eleven years ago) link

Meantime, new interview with Ridley about things:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/05/17/ridley-scott-opens-up-about-prometheus-kick-ass-women-and-blade-runner-2.html

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

For Prometheus, I came back to a very simple question that haunted me that appears in the first Alien, and no one answered in subsequent Alien films: who was the ”Space Jockey”—the big guy in the seat? If you really go into that, it becomes the basis for a pretty interesting story. When I went to the studio, we didn’t know if it was going to be a sequel or a prequel.

this whole approach makes me think that somewhere someone feels compelled to make a film explaining the presence of the watermelon in the lab in Buckaroo Banzai

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

so stupid

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

i would gladly pay to see a movie about the watermelon in buckaroo banzai

bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

the idea that one might want to explore the questions posed by the space jockey, the wrecked ship and its biological cargo doesn't seem at all odd to me.

Agreed w/latebloomer

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

If its a compelling story, go for it.

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

btw the watermelon mystery has long been solved.

The following explanation was written by the director of the 1984 docudrama, W.D. Richter, for the April 1986 edition of the World Watch 1 Newsletter: "I can only imagine Buckaroo trying to grapple with this question. When cornered (as I feel now), he often quotes H.L. Mencken's nasty remark about how every complex question always has a simple answer...that is usually wrong. But it is high time poor New Jersey's honest inquiry be answered. Let me rephrase the question first one way, then another. "Why is a watermelon trapped between those monstrous pressure plates deep within the Institute's Critical Stress Laboratory?" Team Banzai botanical agronomists have been for years hard at work on the problem of hunger in Third World countries under constant revolutionary turmoil. A nonpolitical, humanitarian effort, their goal has been to find ways to feed starving peoples in remote areas where traditional food delivery systems prove woefully inadequate. Often, the only way to get the nourishment into the bellies of the needy is to hit and run, avoiding all petty ideological side-taking. What you see in the Critical Stress Lab is a revolutionary watermelon capable of withstanding impact pressures of 300,000 pounds per square inch! Sweet, juicy and vitamin-packed, this remarkable fruit can be dropped from the bomb bays of low-flying aircraft into the backyards of disenfranchised villagers in the remotest backwaters of this angry planet. Just another Team Banzai effort to cut through all the unnecessary crap around us and help people help themselves. Look for high-impact, low cholesterol eggs next... and sooner than you think, shatter-proof whole-wheat taco shells.

The Painter of Blight™ (Sanpaku), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

lol

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

so that's what eggs in alien were: food relief for backwater planets!

bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

buckaroo banzai against the world crime league is the chinese democracy of cult sci fi

the late great, Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

interesting questions, not answers, are what make movies like alien good. unless you mean the answer to, "will they all die,' which is, "mostly."

He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

buckaroo banzai against the world crime league is the chinese democracy of cult sci fi

yeah, *sob*

interesting questions, not answers, are what make movies like alien good

^^^

this movie looks like a bunch of stupid answers

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

interesting questions, not answers, are what make movies like alien good. unless you mean the answer to, "will they all die,' which is, "mostly."

well sure, but in answering any one question (the typical sequel punctures the obvious "and then what happened?" question-bubble), you open a bunch of others. hopefully.

i mean, lord of the rings as a whole is an incredibly overelaborate answer to the questions posed by the hobbit, but that doesn't make it inferior or a story that should never have been told.

yeah I'm desperately hoping for a compelling story that is not a fill-in-the-blanks for the fanboys deal

and I'm optimistic

He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

lord of the rings as a whole is an incredibly overelaborate answer to the questions posed by the hobbit

never really thought of LOTR this way tbh. maybe Tolkien did, I dunno.

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

i don't see how it can be particularly compelling, precursor aliens who genetically engineered humans and aliens as biomechanical drones is pretty established ideas

the late great, Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

i do kinda feel LOTR was a step backwards from the hobbit. hobbit feels like jimmy carter. LOTR feels like reagan.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

the late great OTM. if anything this just looks like a retread of Lovecraft ideas.

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link

is are etc

i mean established both as generic sci fi and established in terms of the alien franchise

the late great, Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

what i'm interested in is seeing people's helmets melt onto their face and whimpering in the face merciless nonhuman killers

the late great, Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link


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