well, that's bullshit al
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
thats a really unfair characterization of the work i do buddy
― man down (D-40), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
i mean i get that your entire purpose on this thread at this pt is to troll me but come on, fight the real enemy
― man down (D-40), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
sometimes i get confused about who the real enemy is
― Mordy, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
i'll go on the cross for deej on this one
regardless of how much importance you give to local rap music, deej has gone out and interviewed and reported pretty long and involved features on important rappers in his city... doing work not many people knew to do or wanted to do. so yeah, that was a pretty bullshit remark coming from a dude writing an entire book on local rap.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
which of you rap crits is which avenger
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
nah listen deej does a lot of real research, but he also uses the shit out of a popular internet portal, we all do. i'm just beating him with the same stupid stick he's beating other strawcritics with.
― kitty shayme (some dude), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
pretty flimsy, bruh
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
well i mean, not to keep drawing out the obvious comparison, but a year ago deej saw kreayshawn's youtube, and blogged about it and interviewed her as quickly as possible. this year a bunch of other people are doing the same thing w/ KP, and other than firsties and song quality i don't feel like there's a world of difference there.
― kitty shayme (some dude), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
p sure deej is captain america and whiney is the hulk
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
how can captain america be an avenger and have no discernible personality
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
he gets twitchy when you mess with his idealistic values
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
fwiw this is def one of the worst songs i've ever heard
― kitty shayme (some dude), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
just another male critic crapping on a teenage girl
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
can't wait to see the google traffic from that post
Idk al I think theres a diff between me interviewing an artist who did a song I like for a personal website vs an nyt article
― man down (D-40), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 19:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
whiney was having an interesting (no really!) discussion on twitter abt this, tumblrwave type shit like this being as much about how much easier it is to be a 'journalist' when all you have to do is go thru someone's online presence & report on what you found there instead of, say, being paid to fly down to louisiana and cover the lil boosie trial
the thing is, I agree with you, and strongly actually, but one should be on guard against putting too much value on these distinctions imo. "the harder get-your-hands-dirty work that the current generation doesn't have to do" sort of stance is a p. bad look that'll glide quietly but perniciously into old-manism if you're not super-cautious about it </unsolicitedolddudeadvice>
― cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 19:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
by the way this music sounds awful and none of you should be paying any attention to it there is way better stuff to listen to rap is awesome listen to good rap music and not this stuff lol
― cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 19:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
i totally agree with deej w/r/t kitty pryde's coverage. right now she deserves, at best, a small introductory box-out (in big-deal outlets like the NYT). not a fucking huge thinkpiece. i don't think that's symptomatic of kitty pryde specifically so much as music critics yet again being dumb suckers for gimmicks and novelty and stuff, esp in hip-hop and r&b, that deviates from the still-despised norm.
idk who actually wrote the thinkpiece but i probably feel vaguely contemptuous towards them - this is not a thing i would have dreamed of pitching and y'know what i'm proud of that - but i blame the editor way way more.
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
the times piece is not "fucking huge," also only like a third of it is really about kitty pryde
― max, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
the piece is *actually* about karmin
― max, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
but yeah AS I HAVE SAID ALREADY caramanica being employed at the new york times throws off the hype cycle, he should be fired
oh i got the impression from the hand-wringing it was huge
you didn't think i'd read it did you?
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
OMG lol it was caramanica? the dude who pitched and was commissioned and wrote the pitchfork reviews reviews piece? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL what a disgrace to everything he is
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
i like caramanica but then again i like, sort of, PRR, so
― max, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
i also like 'ok cupid'
― max, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
max, it was still 300 words in the NYT. most of those words aren't very good or informative, but still, that's a decent amount of exposure in the paper of record
― Mordy, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
i like caramanica but then again i like, sort of, PRR
i could never zing him as effectively as this
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
i'm sort of nostalgic for the old days of this thread, when everyone was on fire with the passionate fragrance of youth
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
300 words in the NYT vs 700 posts on ILM
― ♆ (gr8080), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
ilx raison d'être is to discuss inane shit tho
well, maybe the NYT's too
― Mordy, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
― man down (D-40), Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:47 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
i didn't realize the caramanica nyt thing was being held up as the main crime instead of however many other lower level outlets have also been covering nyt. so the problem is kreayshawn took x months to get thinkpieces in a bunch of big papers where KP took x days? things are moving faster all the time, my friend.
― kitty shayme (some dude), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
'have also been covering KP,' i meant to say
when KP racks up 30mill views lmk
― man down (D-40), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 02:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
or even gets played on radio
― man down (D-40), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 02:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
she's a sucker but she pulls it off. this song is a jealous number. you made it for me, which is a nice gesture sweetheart. you do look like an angel. and anything you say could break an eardrum, and guess what i blasted it and shattered it and blew it back in your face like sand from a looking glass in a way that looks like i blew a kiss. she knows how to deal a low blow, but can't hack it with the cards she doesn't stack. you should all ask yourselves how she knows me. she is still bitterblast0is3 2 hours ago
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― cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 03:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
175k views in 6 days on "OK Cupid" btw fwiw. It has been weird to me for over 20 years now how rap fans dwell on how popular something is or isn't, completely do not get that at all - who gives a shit imo - I mean, I know, as an indie fucker I would say that, but seriously how is anybody whose wallet isn't directly affected by sales even remotely interested in YouTube views or not? whether something is worth discussing or not is proven or disproven by whether people have discussions about it, heavy qed shit here, if the Times publishes a story on something people don't actually care about (which happens all the time) it doesn't miraculously enter the people-are-talking cycle, it just goes away
― cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 03:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
really i think everyone's entitled to make fun of 4th rate white girl rappers and the bloggers who hype them up, but the guy who hyped up a 3rd rate white girl rapper has to take his lumps before he can act all high and mighty
― kitty shayme (some dude), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 03:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
dag
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 03:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
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^ my cat's feelings about tumblr rapper kitty pryde
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 04:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
― kitty shayme (some dude), Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:14 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
suggesting kreayshawn is only one 'rate' above kitty pryde is nagl. gucci gucci was a dope song & it appealed to ppl who like just u know pop music. to me, the shit that makes kitty pryde 'notable' is pretty boring & in no way newsworthy.
im not suggesting something has to be popular for me to like it, but im tired of 'appealing to a certain crowd of post collegiate 20somethings looking for ''innovation'' narrowly defined in cloud rap / chillwave terms' as being such a driving cultural force & am more interested in hearing stories about ppl who aren't so over-covered as is
― man down (D-40), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 04:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
does that mean kitty pryde is 5th rate
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 04:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
jesus christ, al.
― ♆ (gr8080), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 04:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
idg what i did wrong interviewing for my own website an artist who made a song i thought was dope. 'hyping up,' seriously?
― man down (D-40), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 04:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
hierarchy of white girl rappers
karmin < kitty pryde < kreayshawn < kesha
hey what's with all the k's?!?!?!
― the late great, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 04:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
k flay
:-O
K K K
i guess i'll never understand you dudes since i basically use ILX to distract me from my day job, not endlessly discuss it
― ♆ (gr8080), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 04:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
kyriarchy
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 04:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
A+
― cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 05:16 (1 year ago) Permalink