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i'm trying to prod people into explaining where they're coming from and what it is about her approach, specifically, that they think sucks so incredibly bad

The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

inert music plus a voice with zero charisma or range sleepwalking through a recitation of inanities

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

see, and that wasnt even a real sentence let alone a graf

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

we know she's not an old dude from latvia, for instance. x1000

you disagree? i wouldn't have said it if ppl hadn't challenged me on the specifically teen-girlish qualities of KP's voice & style.

The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

god i love tripod image hosting

The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

see, and that wasnt even a real sentence let alone a graf

lol, i posted a similarly brief list of praiseworthy qualities about 3 miles back. the late great suggested that it might not be sufficient.

The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

not sufficient ... for somebody who's accusing everyone else of not being specific enough

the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

also i hope you understand "sleepwalking through recitation of inanities" might carry more weight than "presenting a novel point of view", after all you like the beastie boys better than ICP

the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Don't agree with 'sleepwalking', though - whether you consider it a pro or con the way she accentuates lines like "but like, i'm open minded and it's fine" she's obviously inhabiting a deliberate personality (her own, probably). There's thought behind the delivery even it just amounts to 'this is how I would say it IRL conversation'.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

whenever i find myself posting on one of these threads multiple times i have a vision of my grandfather in a muddy ditch, with water in his boots, being shot at by nazis, defending western civilization, and then wondering why he bothered.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

inert music plus a voice with zero charisma or range sleepwalking through a recitation of inanities

think we all agree she's working with scraps music-wise. i'm overlooking that for the moment, cuz i don't think she's a producer, and her resources are probably limited. just a guess...

"zero charisma": i don't know, but fair complaint. she's not setting my world on fire, either.

the "limited range" i see as a strength. she's in character, and the low-intensity style is part of it.

"recitation of inanities", is both otm and missing the way she uses these "inanities" to describe character, culture, time and place - a detailed and authentic portrait of a life largely composed of such things. nothing wrong with that, imo. it's as appropriate and potentially interesting as any other subject matter. again, i don't think it's great, but i'm surprised that so many find it so notably awful.

The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

not sufficient ... for somebody who's accusing everyone else of not being specific enough

yeah, strongo slammed me for going on. i defended myself by saying you'd found my sketch of her strengths a little thin. that's just the facts.

The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

contenderizer have you heard of uffie

the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

she's obviously inhabiting a deliberate personality (her own, probably). There's thought behind the delivery even it just amounts to 'this is how I would say it IRL conversation'

the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

trying to figure out how a musician could fail these two criteria

the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

she's obviously inhabiting a deliberate personality (her own, probably). There's thought behind the delivery even it just amounts to 'this is how I would say it IRL conversation

the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

he's obviously inhabiting a deliberate personality (his own, probably). There's thought behind the delivery

the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

contenderizer have you heard of uffie

lol, someone was playing her on outloud the other night. hadn't thought of her in forever. there's a curtis vodka remix i liked for a second, mostly because of the way it just goes "curtis curtis vodka vodka" for like two minutes at the end.

The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

you know every time i make fun of uffie or use her as a punch line i feel a little guilty because her husband fell through a skylight and died

the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

actually i think he was her boyfriend

or maybe just her friend i don't know

the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

i did not know that

The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not sure Mehdi and Uffie were dating.

Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 07:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

[tim F asking about my description of her vocal manner] no, but no one has really broken down what it is they dislike her. the criticism has been mostly of the "lol she sucks" variety, intermixed with the suggestion that she's getting attention for the wrong reasons, that others deserve it more, etc. i'm only suggesting that her very typically US-teen-girl-style vocal approach might be part of what causes people to dismiss her.

If for example you compare two artists and say "this artist is getting more hype because she's conventionally pretty but that artist is better", it doesn't mean you think that being conventionally pretty is a bad thing, it means you think that it's relevant to the creation and maintenance of uneven playing fields.

All that said I'm not really concerned about kitty pryde creating uneven playing fields - at least not while even the positive reception seems limited to "lol watch this".

Tim F, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 09:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Okay Cupid" <3<3

UnderControl, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

the manner of speech: tones, inflections, cadences, giggling, uptalk." add breathiness, a particular and deliberate sort of flatness, the cartoonishly childlike tone she momentarily affects on the "i'm thirteen, what is lean? what is dream pop" line, etc.

85% chance this post was written while wearing a clown suit

thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't know what makes that typical of us teen girls

― call all destroyer, Monday, May 14, 2012 11:39 PM (Yesterday)

I aggressively sniped at call all destroyer in a baseball thread once; I feel really bad now, finding out he's a teen girl.

clemenza, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

In the same way I think sports talk radio and ESPN is way more popular than *actual* sports, I think that we're starting to see ”the market” (in a broad sense) start to cater to the internets endless need to talk about and blog about stuff

Like this, I mean it's clearly designed more to be talked about than listened to

Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

the internet has kind of become its own regional scene, surely i'm not the first person to say that (if not here)

i kinda think she's on to something tbh

goole, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 14:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

If I like Uffie and Kreayshawn and Lady Sovereign, will I like Kitty Pryde?

Carrie Antwoord (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 14:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

certainly improves your chances

the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 14:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Jay, it's impossible to evaluate the quality of music so....

Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

If for example you compare two artists and say "this artist is getting more hype because she's conventionally pretty but that artist is better", it doesn't mean you think that being conventionally pretty is a bad thing, it means you think that it's relevant to the creation and maintenance of uneven playing fields.

― Tim F, Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:18 AM (8 hours ago)

sure, but if the criticism of an artist is limited to withering monosyllabic contempt, and her acclaim is being derided as a product of her appearance, it seems reasonable to at least question the relationship between the two.

The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

85% chance this post was written while wearing a clown suit

flattery will get you everywhere

The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Seriously though, this is rockist and w/e but duck dunn and levon and mca passing kinda makes me realize how little time we all have on this planet and now that there is literally an infinite number of things you could pay attention to or think about, maybe the real fundamental battle of our time is trying to really focus and prioritize your attention....like I've never heard Brahms but I've posted several times in a thread about some semi clever 15yr old girl that raps on youtube

Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

you will open your eyes and scream. for a time there will be a procession of colored lights. then nothing.

The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

*waits for brahmswave to hit*

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

whiney was having an interesting (no really!) discussion on twitter abt this, tumblrwave type shit like this being as much about how much easier it is to be a 'journalist' when all you have to do is go thru someone's online presence & report on what you found there instead of, say, being paid to fly down to louisiana and cover the lil boosie trial

man down (D-40), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

that is unfortunately still some narcissism of small differences bullshit, like i guess if you fly down to LA to cover a lil boosie trial you might feel superior to someone surfing myspace in their underwear but neither of you are doing particularly difficult or commendable works of 'journalism.'

Mordy, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

well, no, that's not true at all

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

anyone got a livestream of the lil boosie trial

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

it is kind of fun to see the world's foremost youtube rap critic act like tumblr rap crit is a 100% different and 100% worse pursuit

kitty shayme (some dude), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

well, that's bullshit al

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

thats a really unfair characterization of the work i do buddy

man down (D-40), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

i mean i get that your entire purpose on this thread at this pt is to troll me but come on, fight the real enemy

man down (D-40), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

sometimes i get confused about who the real enemy is

Mordy, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'll go on the cross for deej on this one

regardless of how much importance you give to local rap music, deej has gone out and interviewed and reported pretty long and involved features on important rappers in his city... doing work not many people knew to do or wanted to do. so yeah, that was a pretty bullshit remark coming from a dude writing an entire book on local rap.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

which of you rap crits is which avenger

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:04 (2 years ago) Permalink


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