and struggled even to win the gold medals in men's and women's hockey, its national pasttime
this is kind of "maybe that's why we beat them at football nearly half of the time."
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
man the "complete lack of evidence" line is so crazy. there are heaps of it! the amount is staggering, google it once! which enormous line of evidence do you even begin with? paleontological evidence? genetics? actual observations of natural selection??
reading convervapedia is kinda asking for it tho. i do it when i'm looking for legit excuse to go (%$#!@TUFNBydfghn;ff:LK at my keyboard
― arby's, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's a beautiful logic which goes "There are no fossils of cheetahs from before cheetahs evolved, therefore cheetahs must always have existed"
― thomasintrouble, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
I mean, if I had a 4-year-old I'd be gently sitting them down to explain, but an adult doesn't genuinely misunderstand such a simple concept.
― thomasintrouble, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
Here we go, this is the post I was looking for:
How Could They Believe This Stuff?
...Simple: if your base is a group that has been trained to reject truth in favor of faith in faith, they will believe anything because rejection of what "everyone else believes" is a bedrock article of faith and your very identity. Let's be blunt: science has rendered a literal interpretation of any scripture, be it Bible, Koran, whatever, as impossible. For many religious people this means that they have sought out deeper meanings in a spirituality that depends on a more intuitive sense of meaning and purpose than a slavish attempt to follow texts that have been simply disproven.But for another group - the fundamentalists of all religions - modernity has been "answered" by opting out or attacking facts as lies.Enter Madrassas of all kinds, literal -- as in Pakistan -- or virtual -- as in the Evangelical home school movement and private school movement. Enter Evangelical TV and radio and publishing industry and mega churches as personality cults. Enter the "conservative" Roman Catholic bishops cut off from their own far more tolerant (and liberal) flocks.The rise of the religious right within religion is designed intentionally to isolate, indoctrinate and "protect" from challenging ideas. Fundamentalist leaders, be they conservative bishops or evangelical leaders, do this because actual true information is no longer helpful to the fundamentalist religious cause. So that cause becomes about controlling the minds of the faithful by cutting them off from other opinions...[...]It takes training for years to reject what is true. That training starts in a million Sunday schools and carries on through home schooling or private religious "education" and is completed in a hundred alternative Christian "colleges." It is sustained by a network of magazines like Christianity Today, World and many more. It has its own celebrity culture with heroes that no one outside the religious ghetto has heard of but who are selling literally millions of books to their followers.Is it any wonder that a bedrock article of faith in the Republican Party is now that public schools are evil? Is it any wonder Santorum says he objects to President Obama saying all kids should work to go to college? In fact anything public and open to accountability is to be feared. Education is feared most of all. All public space is hated because in that space, from infrastructure projects to the Federal Reserve to the UN to all government agencies, there has to be an acceptable baseline of fact that everyone buys into. Universities and the media - both places where ideas are discussed openly - are hated most of all.So public space is demonized because by its very nature it falls outside of the control of the "mullahs," -- i.e. the pastors and bishops and celebrity religious leaders that are fighting off facts to maintain their control of their flocks. And the government is demonized because it imposes a rule of law over and above the Bible's mandates.And that is why "They" -- the bedrock supporters of the Republican Party -- do what they do and allow a Santorum to emerge as a serious candidate. The base of the Republican Party don't live here in our world anymore, they have moved to the Bronze Age and like it there.The problem is that the "conservatives" (who are actually revolutionaries) are not content to just live in their private space and indoctrinate their children. They want to make the rest of us reject facts and move into their time machine with them and travel back to a world safe from truth.And the far right of the evangelical movement and far right Roman Catholic bishops are also at war with their more moderate people.
Let's be blunt: science has rendered a literal interpretation of any scripture, be it Bible, Koran, whatever, as impossible. For many religious people this means that they have sought out deeper meanings in a spirituality that depends on a more intuitive sense of meaning and purpose than a slavish attempt to follow texts that have been simply disproven.
But for another group - the fundamentalists of all religions - modernity has been "answered" by opting out or attacking facts as lies.
Enter Madrassas of all kinds, literal -- as in Pakistan -- or virtual -- as in the Evangelical home school movement and private school movement. Enter Evangelical TV and radio and publishing industry and mega churches as personality cults. Enter the "conservative" Roman Catholic bishops cut off from their own far more tolerant (and liberal) flocks.
The rise of the religious right within religion is designed intentionally to isolate, indoctrinate and "protect" from challenging ideas. Fundamentalist leaders, be they conservative bishops or evangelical leaders, do this because actual true information is no longer helpful to the fundamentalist religious cause. So that cause becomes about controlling the minds of the faithful by cutting them off from other opinions...
[...]
It takes training for years to reject what is true. That training starts in a million Sunday schools and carries on through home schooling or private religious "education" and is completed in a hundred alternative Christian "colleges." It is sustained by a network of magazines like Christianity Today, World and many more. It has its own celebrity culture with heroes that no one outside the religious ghetto has heard of but who are selling literally millions of books to their followers.
Is it any wonder that a bedrock article of faith in the Republican Party is now that public schools are evil? Is it any wonder Santorum says he objects to President Obama saying all kids should work to go to college? In fact anything public and open to accountability is to be feared. Education is feared most of all.
All public space is hated because in that space, from infrastructure projects to the Federal Reserve to the UN to all government agencies, there has to be an acceptable baseline of fact that everyone buys into. Universities and the media - both places where ideas are discussed openly - are hated most of all.
So public space is demonized because by its very nature it falls outside of the control of the "mullahs," -- i.e. the pastors and bishops and celebrity religious leaders that are fighting off facts to maintain their control of their flocks. And the government is demonized because it imposes a rule of law over and above the Bible's mandates.
And that is why "They" -- the bedrock supporters of the Republican Party -- do what they do and allow a Santorum to emerge as a serious candidate. The base of the Republican Party don't live here in our world anymore, they have moved to the Bronze Age and like it there.
The problem is that the "conservatives" (who are actually revolutionaries) are not content to just live in their private space and indoctrinate their children. They want to make the rest of us reject facts and move into their time machine with them and travel back to a world safe from truth.
And the far right of the evangelical movement and far right Roman Catholic bishops are also at war with their more moderate people.
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Monday, 14 May 2012 21:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
Predicted that Sarah Palin will not be the Republican nominee for president, after observing how Facebook (which personified her political approach) lost the Academy Award to The King's Speech.[38]
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 14 May 2012 22:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
signs and wonders
― goole, Monday, 14 May 2012 22:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
Is it any wonder Santorum says he objects to President Obama saying all kids should work to go to college?
I though this was more of a sop to blue-collar tradesmen who're glad they have no student debt.
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Monday, 14 May 2012 22:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
Also, tbf to Schlafly or whatever his name, the switch from AD to CE always struck me as not quite up to par, though I am far from religious.
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Monday, 14 May 2012 22:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah I think most of the right wing's policies are straight up economically driven. This guy can tell himself schools are hated because FACTS and SCIENCE vs. THE BIBLE but i think really it's that Republicans want to cut the hell out of spending and lower taxes for rich people.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 May 2012 22:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
This is Orwell's doublethink in action, i.e. setting up a comprehensive programme of deliberate misinformation, by people who actually seem to not realise that they have set up a network with the express purpose to mislead through lies and/or are perpetuating all that deliberate misinformation
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 14 May 2012 23:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
i get those sorts of book donated to my work ~every single day~
― arby's, Monday, 14 May 2012 23:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
i get four times as many nora roberts but
― arby's, Monday, 14 May 2012 23:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
the scale of self-deception required to knowingly operate such an elaborate scheme of nonsense with utter conviction is just astounding xxp
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 14 May 2012 23:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh yeah i think the BCE/CE thing is kinda ridiculous too because it's not like the whole counting system isn't still based on jesus (although i mean BC is one thing but AD is a little pushy) but it's still lol that this was what made him realize a revolution was necessary. xps
― good men like my father, or president truman (difficult listening hour), Monday, 14 May 2012 23:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
I kinda love SEO now, all urls are great
http://www.conservapedia.com/Mystery:Did_a_Fake_Fidel_Castro_Meet_the_Pope%3F
― dayo, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 02:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
Space Jam 1996 PG Michael Jordan uses the help of beloved children's characters from the '50s (a simpler time in America's history) to beat back foreign invaders who wish to take away our freedoms.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 04:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
Native American is a term that can either refer to an American Indian or to anyone born in America as an American.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 05:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://conservapedia.com/Essay:Greatest_Conservative_Songs
― JoeStork, Monday, 9 July 2012 00:20 (11 months ago) Permalink
Union Sundown Bob Dylan The title says it all.
― Tom Crucifictorious (Leee), Monday, 9 July 2012 00:48 (11 months ago) Permalink
Thank god conservatives have stopped putting "Won't Get Fooled Again" on these fucking lists.
― Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 9 July 2012 00:54 (11 months ago) Permalink
"Waiting List" Dr. Octagon A powerful song about socialized medicine and rationing
― a-lo, Monday, 9 July 2012 01:55 (11 months ago) Permalink
finally convinced that site actually is a joke
― Chris S, Monday, 9 July 2012 02:18 (11 months ago) Permalink
"No Children" The Mountain Goats A song about a marriage falling apart because the couple has no children to hold the family together.
― JoeStork, Monday, 9 July 2012 02:26 (11 months ago) Permalink
Let It Be - The Beatles - Very popular in Russia under the Soviets
Wait, what?
― Neil Jung (WmC), Monday, 9 July 2012 02:31 (11 months ago) Permalink
"Pray" MC Hammer Working hard and giving thanks.
― mississippi joan hart (crüt), Monday, 9 July 2012 02:37 (11 months ago) Permalink
Animal Collective, 'Chores' - "Now I've got these chores / and I'm not gonna hurt no-one" -- Hard work is praised and violence is discouraged. A scary song for liberals!
― Clay, Monday, 9 July 2012 03:08 (11 months ago) Permalink
Chris Mooney covers Conservapedia in his great new book, excerpted here:
http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2012/03/chris-mooney-republican-brain-science-denial
He mentions that Schlafly's arguments are horrible b/c they're not arguments to persuade at all; they're more an inner re-affirmation of belief an recitation of tribal slogans. Dude does this shit to buck himself and his team up, not to convince others.
― Steam Sale Jonesin' (kingfish), Monday, 9 July 2012 05:00 (11 months ago) Permalink
Ticket to Ride The Beatles Lyrics describe anti-feminist attitude
OK, i just...what?
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 9 July 2012 06:14 (11 months ago) Permalink
"I Won't Back down" Tom PettyTalks about not backing down from a fight. Can be compared to not loosing the Iraq War.
― I DIED, Monday, 9 July 2012 06:21 (11 months ago) Permalink
tbf a lot of early John Lennon tunes have a pretty anti-feminist attitude
― Chris S, Monday, 9 July 2012 06:42 (11 months ago) Permalink
if you can tell me what ticket to ride is about i'd love to hear it
― abanana, Monday, 9 July 2012 08:12 (11 months ago) Permalink
http://conservapedia.com/Essay:_Beautiful_songs_written_about_atheism
hurrrr
― Vitaly Petrov Boys (King Boy Pato), Monday, 9 July 2012 10:20 (11 months ago) Permalink
Hard work is praised and violence is discouraged. A scary song for liberals!
It's true! Liberals hate hard work and love violence!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:03 (11 months ago) Permalink
Drifting along with the tumblin' tumbleweeds
Indeed, a beautiful song
― click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:43 (11 months ago) Permalink
Bodies The Sex Pistols Profane but graphically anti-abortion.
glad these guys have their priorities straight.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:08 (11 months ago) Permalink
Betcha they're Slayer fans too!
― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:18 (11 months ago) Permalink
It's So Easy Guns N'Roses Lyrics describe anti-feminist attitude
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:23 (11 months ago) Permalink
Abstinence advocate Lolo Jones will need to hurdle over liberal claptrap in addition to what's on the track in order to win a medal at the 2012 Summer Olympics; even some in the media are now rallying to her defense against the unjustified criticism of her by the liberal media.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 9 August 2012 02:23 (10 months ago) Permalink
The Netherlands is a very secular and pro-evolution country. In 2007, it was estimated that they produced 80% of the world's bestiality films. See: Netherlands and bestiality
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 9 August 2012 02:29 (10 months ago) Permalink
Wait, Lolo Jones is an abstinence advocate?
So sad. ;_;
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 9 August 2012 02:39 (10 months ago) Permalink
YOLO Jones on the other hand is unbelievably promiscuous.
― joygoat, Thursday, 9 August 2012 05:35 (10 months ago) Permalink
Advocating abstinence has zilch to do with promiscuity.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 9 August 2012 14:44 (10 months ago) Permalink
Conservapedia is consistently a great example of the reflexive "always defend the in-group / always denigrate the out-group" thing that authoritarians do
― Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Thursday, 9 August 2012 16:33 (10 months ago) Permalink
xp you're gonna have to explain that one to me.
― kmfdotm (ledge), Thursday, 9 August 2012 17:19 (10 months ago) Permalink
Are joke sports ruining the 2012 Summer Olympics? For example, why are Olympic medals for Great Britain in dressage even counted in the medal totals???
― Beamer, Benz, or Škoda (King Boy Pato), Saturday, 11 August 2012 11:22 (10 months ago) Permalink
At the halfway point in the 2012 Summer Olympics, an underachieving nation is Australia, which has drifted leftward politically and is being outdone by its much smaller, more conservative rival of New Zealand.
― Beamer, Benz, or Škoda (King Boy Pato), Saturday, 11 August 2012 11:33 (10 months ago) Permalink
Soccer is a popular joke sport played with a round ball propelled mainly by kicks from a player's foot.
― steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 11 August 2012 11:38 (10 months ago) Permalink
Australia, which has drifted leftward politically
what the absolute fuck is this shit
― undermikey: bidness (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 11 August 2012 11:57 (10 months ago) Permalink
my wife refuses to believe that the whole site isn't just a put-on
― steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 11 August 2012 11:58 (10 months ago) Permalink