Whiney OTM that She's On It at least had a video/was in Krush Groove and I actually saw copies of the 12" in record shops. "Rock Hard" didn't get anywhere near that kind of push, and was a huge collector's item pre-internet.
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
Just one more point, as it doesn't really matter. Christgau had "Rock Hard" in his top 10 singles for '85 (#7); I own the 12-inch (got it and Cookie Puss at some weird warehouse sale in the late '80s). If it's not on CD, that's a good point--didn't realize that. I guess what I'm saying is it's far from obscure for me--i.e., a subjective call.
― clemenza, Monday, 14 May 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
"Rock Hard" is mindblowing though.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
^^That's the key point.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 14 May 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
I love that EZ Snappin's definition of "not obscure" is "it's on the internet"
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
we're all famous!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NOakdZolYQ
43. "POSSE IN EFFECT" (1986) [136 points, 4 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 May 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
^ that's #42 btw
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 May 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
I bet all of License to Ill made the top 60.
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
ga-ron-teed
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
Just about the post the same thing re: every LTI track. Surprised to not see any Paul's Boutique yet.
― intheblanks, Monday, 14 May 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
"posse in effect" is so great
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
#2 on my ballot
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
your crew's all soft and I'm disgusted
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
Super sick track. That's my #1. Everything I love about the Beasties condensed to under three minutes. Hits every topic: girls, beer, records, New York, kicking your ass, and humor.
― King Tim Ill Comm (Spectrist), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
Glad "Bodhisattva Vow" made it. (More actually psychedelic than anything on PB, imo.)
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
I see "bodhisattva vow" as part of a song cycle of psychedelic MCA solo jams, with "year and a day" and "flowin prose"
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
"posse in effect" also great cause it's one of the licensed to ill tracks that never sounds dated, it will always be some electroshock future vision of teen hooliganism
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
xpost
Yup. But "Bodhisattava" has some kick to it, too. Not just floaty flowery.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten)
If there are almost 18 million results for it and a youtube of it is the first google option then yes, it's not obscure.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 14 May 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFP79Dlc928
41. "3 MINUTE RULE" (1989) [138 points, 6 votes]
(plz to pardon the stupid youtube...it's not the proper instrumental, just somehow has the vocals way buried in the mix.)
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 May 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
I'm so rope they call me mr roper
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
ddddoo wah diddy and bust em with the pre-roll
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
(only Johnny Ryall on youtube was a demo, and this thread already has enough embeds anyway)
40. "JOHNNY RYALL" (1989) [143 points, 9 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
that's silly. to search for it, you have to know of it. and the way most people are gonna get to know most beastie boys songs is through the albums. or by reading about their general history and discography somewhere. or in this day and age, via a youtube link, which, sure, might be "rock hard" as easily as anything else.
still, i doubt that most casual beastie boys fans even know that "rock hard" exists, whereas they all surely know of their albums. that's why i think the phrase "a bit more obscure" makes some sense, and that's where this all started.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Monday, 14 May 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
here's johnny ryall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=pKNmLMs7ugw#t=288s
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 14 May 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
Cool, I didn't realize that whole album thing had it broken down by track.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
can we just say the word "relatively" is usually IMPLIED in front of the word "obscure" and that context is everything and move the fuck on?
― kitty shayme (some dude), Monday, 14 May 2012 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XflfiylNNXY
39. "THREE MC'S AND ONE DJ" (1998) [145 points, 8 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
I cut this last. I thought I loved it but it turns out I don't.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
Johnny Ryall, a real person who made records or not?
― bendy, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
no.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
I thought mike d said yes? and then there's this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuhGGth0_M4
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 14 May 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago) link
Love the video for "Three MCs" as much as the song. Which is a fair amount in both cases.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 May 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
I'm going by the 33 1/3 book on Paul's Boutique:
Johnny Ryall was a vagrant who frequently turned up on the stoop of Diamond's New York apartment building after the Licensed to Ill tour. No one recalls his real name, but he was rechristened by Diamond's roommate at the time, Sean Carasov, who also invented a history for the amiable beggar. "I had this brain fart that he used to be a rockabilly star. He had that look," says Carasov "Actually, he kinda looked like the fifty-miles-of-bad-road version of Chet Baker."
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
I do love the video.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
this version has a shot of the 45, you can see the name johnny ryall under some sharpie scribbles, perhaps the fictional backstory became so detailed it began to intrude upon reality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBInorRr9p4
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 14 May 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
If there are almost 18 million results for it and a youtube of it is the first google option then yes, it's not obscure.― EZ Snappin, Monday, May 14, 2012 2:43 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― EZ Snappin, Monday, May 14, 2012 2:43 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oooh, a whole 69,306 views on YouTube. I'm sorry, my glasses are a little fogged up there, dad, is that Justin Bieber?
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 14 May 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
huh, i always figured they were actually saying "johnny royale" and just called it "johnny ryall" as a joke
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Monday, 14 May 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
johnny ryall is great, huge nostalgia for this
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 May 2012 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
those sharpie scribbles are apparently an inscription from johnny himself!
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 14 May 2012 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
Hey Whiney that song was like a million posts ago, how about you pick a new fight about a new song
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 May 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99v9-4uk9ZQ
38. "SKILLS TO PAY THE BILLS" (1992) [152 points, 8 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 May 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
How and why did that track get left off Check Your Head?
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 May 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
forgot to vote for this! So damn good.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 14 May 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teQqelBTw7g
37. "SOMETHING'S GOT TO GIVE" (1992) [157 points, 7 points]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 May 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
I always visualize that song with the MTV promo that played it over shots of the Los Lobos "Kiko" video
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 14 May 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link
THIS ONE IS CALLED RECTIFY
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Monday, 14 May 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
is there a good beasties comp of like non-album tracks from like "Rock Hard" --> "Alive"
i might have to cobble it myself in a spare weekend sometime
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 14 May 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link
last one for today...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZdMuIq3NLY
36. "REMOTE CONTROL" (1998) [169 points, 9 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 May 2012 20:56 (twelve years ago) link