Flute Loop is really great on its own. Always kind of got camouflaged by the rest of the album for me, but I'm lovin' it right now.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 May 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
I can't imagine any reality where a song from the last three albums actually charts on this
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ilZshY6uUo
45. "ROCK HARD" (1985) [115 points, 5 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 May 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
Never would have figured "She's On It" and "Rock Hard" would be so low...I'm living in some alternate Beasties universe.
― clemenza, Monday, 14 May 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
both great but I cut 'em
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 May 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i like "rock hard", but it isn't better than the comparable stuff on licensed to ill. just a bit more obscure.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Monday, 14 May 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aQdsHH4PkM
44. "SONG FOR THE MAN" (1998) [126 points, 8 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 May 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
I love Rock Hard and I totally forgot to vote for it ;_;
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 May 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
I love "Rock Hard" and voted for it. Happy to see "Flute Loop" place as I felt horrible for cutting it.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 14 May 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64lWVE3Tg2A
43. "BODHISATTVA VOW" (1994) [128 points, 6 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 May 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link
i voted for "She's On It" but it was an admittedly contrarian move
i like "rock hard", but it isn't better than the comparable stuff on licensed to ill. just a bit more obscure
I think the truth of those statements is going to be highly subjective. For me, they're neither contrarian picks (again, I assumed one or both would be top 10) nor even close to being obscure.
― clemenza, Monday, 14 May 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
Rock Hard is pretty obscure
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 May 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link
i didn't necessarily mean contrarian in a 'oh it's bad/hated' but just in a hey i remember that song, what the hell i will vote for it even though it's not on spotify and i can confirm at the moment whether i actually like it all that much
― kitty shayme (some dude), Monday, 14 May 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
Without Spotify there is no music.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 14 May 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
Lol @ "Rock Hard" not "even being close to obscure"
Besides, like, rap radio in 1985, where would anyone even hear "Rock Hard"
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 14 May 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link
it didn't even have a video!
― EZ Snappin, Monday, May 14, 2012 1:56 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
well, not at my desk at work, no. i wasn't making the point that "She's On It" is obscure because it's not on Spotify or anything, to be clear (although i was surprised that it's not even collected on any of their compilations).
― kitty shayme (some dude), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
I only know "Rock Hard" cuz of a CD-R of Beastie rarities burned for me about eight years ago.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, Rock Hard has never been preserved in the cd age, I don't believe. If you want to hear it, you've got to track down the original Def Jam single.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 May 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
Sampling AC/DC means it never will be properly collected.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 14 May 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
ah i see
― kitty shayme (some dude), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
But it's been widely and easily available on the net for fifteen years.
"Rock Hard" is great, and fuck AC/DC for not letting them release it. They obviously had no qualms about BDP sampling the same riff for "Dope Beat."
― Mr. Snrub, Monday, 14 May 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
Whiney OTM that She's On It at least had a video/was in Krush Groove and I actually saw copies of the 12" in record shops. "Rock Hard" didn't get anywhere near that kind of push, and was a huge collector's item pre-internet.
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
Just one more point, as it doesn't really matter. Christgau had "Rock Hard" in his top 10 singles for '85 (#7); I own the 12-inch (got it and Cookie Puss at some weird warehouse sale in the late '80s). If it's not on CD, that's a good point--didn't realize that. I guess what I'm saying is it's far from obscure for me--i.e., a subjective call.
― clemenza, Monday, 14 May 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
"Rock Hard" is mindblowing though.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
^^That's the key point.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 14 May 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
I love that EZ Snappin's definition of "not obscure" is "it's on the internet"
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
we're all famous!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NOakdZolYQ
43. "POSSE IN EFFECT" (1986) [136 points, 4 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 May 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
^ that's #42 btw
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 May 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
I bet all of License to Ill made the top 60.
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
ga-ron-teed
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
Just about the post the same thing re: every LTI track. Surprised to not see any Paul's Boutique yet.
― intheblanks, Monday, 14 May 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
"posse in effect" is so great
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
#2 on my ballot
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
your crew's all soft and I'm disgusted
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
Super sick track. That's my #1. Everything I love about the Beasties condensed to under three minutes. Hits every topic: girls, beer, records, New York, kicking your ass, and humor.
― King Tim Ill Comm (Spectrist), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
Glad "Bodhisattva Vow" made it. (More actually psychedelic than anything on PB, imo.)
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
I see "bodhisattva vow" as part of a song cycle of psychedelic MCA solo jams, with "year and a day" and "flowin prose"
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
"posse in effect" also great cause it's one of the licensed to ill tracks that never sounds dated, it will always be some electroshock future vision of teen hooliganism
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
xpost
Yup. But "Bodhisattava" has some kick to it, too. Not just floaty flowery.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten)
If there are almost 18 million results for it and a youtube of it is the first google option then yes, it's not obscure.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 14 May 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFP79Dlc928
41. "3 MINUTE RULE" (1989) [138 points, 6 votes]
(plz to pardon the stupid youtube...it's not the proper instrumental, just somehow has the vocals way buried in the mix.)
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 May 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
I'm so rope they call me mr roper
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
ddddoo wah diddy and bust em with the pre-roll
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
(only Johnny Ryall on youtube was a demo, and this thread already has enough embeds anyway)
40. "JOHNNY RYALL" (1989) [143 points, 9 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
that's silly. to search for it, you have to know of it. and the way most people are gonna get to know most beastie boys songs is through the albums. or by reading about their general history and discography somewhere. or in this day and age, via a youtube link, which, sure, might be "rock hard" as easily as anything else.
still, i doubt that most casual beastie boys fans even know that "rock hard" exists, whereas they all surely know of their albums. that's why i think the phrase "a bit more obscure" makes some sense, and that's where this all started.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Monday, 14 May 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
here's johnny ryall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=pKNmLMs7ugw#t=288s
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 14 May 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
Cool, I didn't realize that whole album thing had it broken down by track.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link