oh i see it was a joke, what an idiot i am!
no, what you missed was that i wasn't calling the haters paedophiles
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 00:58 (eleven years ago) link
Ayo contendo just fyi man you don't have deeply contemplate every single thing on the internet
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 May 2012 00:58 (eleven years ago) link
oh whoops i missed it!
WTF is wrong with you? do you have some sort of short-term amnesia when you post to the internet?
― the late great, Sunday, 13 May 2012 00:58 (eleven years ago) link
actually, dickhead, you specifically said i was arrogant
i was referring primarily to your behavior in the other thread, something you brought up
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 00:59 (eleven years ago) link
once again the subtleties of your argument are beyond my simple mind
― the late great, Sunday, 13 May 2012 00:59 (eleven years ago) link
oh i see you weren't referring to me, you were referring to my behavior in the other thread
hahaha "female culture" i should ask my mom about kitty pryde tomorrow, maybe SHE can break it down for me
― the late great, Saturday, May 12, 2012 5:57 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
so you don't think guys often shit on things for being too "girly", or for "chicks" or w/e?
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:00 (eleven years ago) link
ironically enough that's pretty much how the positive kudos for kitty pryde read too
well for starters a lot more of it actually quotes lyrics and attempts some contextualizing and appraisal of what's being said. that's a big advantage right there
ah yes, the in situ bildungsroman, highest form of art
your point? this isn't a value judgement. people post random alternatives and go "why isn't this completely different product awarded the same exact attention?". I think before you ask those questions is the right time to actually check out what you're talking about. I mean, we've got people actually using the beats as an example of why this is redundant.
other than that I really hope most of these people aren't still in this thread when I wake up tomorrow
― abcfsk, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:01 (eleven years ago) link
my point is that you don't automatically score points for writing "a personal coming of age story" if you do it in a wack way
i think that, though neither is homogeneous, it would be hard to find two cultural groups in america with less in common, aesthetically and philosophically, than adult male music critics and teenage girls
nope no big pronouncements here
― the late great, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:02 (eleven years ago) link
FINALLY some common ground on this thread
― the late great, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:03 (eleven years ago) link
listening to everything teenagers tell you in a transparent effort to appear down is not the wave
― man down (D-40), Saturday, May 12, 2012 7:16 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
my world of young ppl is being shattered over here
― some dude, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:04 (eleven years ago) link
― the late great, Saturday, May 12, 2012 5:59 PM (58 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
sigh. you got all heated and seemed to imply that i was telling you how to feel about "teen culture". i wasn't. how you feel is your business. that's the strange personalization i was referring to.
honestly, if the worst thing i've said about your behavior itt is that it's been "arrogant", then i've been remarkably civil, given the provocation...
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:05 (eleven years ago) link
thats a pretty misleading reference 2 what 'my world of young ppl' was about xp
― man down (D-40), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:05 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, that's a pronouncement. don't see it as terribly big or remarkable, but perhaps we differ there. okay...
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:06 (eleven years ago) link
contenderizer is it possible that your distance from teen female culture could be causing you to OVERRATE the significance of this song?
― man down (D-40), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:06 (eleven years ago) link
contenderizer lacks so much self awareness that he cant see how his 'simple cultural distance' might actual inform his bias about the novelty of KP vs Sasha
― man down (D-40), Saturday, May 12, 2012 5:57 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
no, i understand the way my cultural positioning affects my perception. but i disagree that my cultural positioning invalidates my perception.
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:07 (eleven years ago) link
you know contendo, some people find condescension a lot more provocative than swearing, which is probably why people hate on you
no, certainly not people like j0rdan or d-40 or rev or whoever who are all over the r&b threads
― the late great, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:07 (eleven years ago) link
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Saturday, May 12, 2012 8:07 PM (16 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you dont realize this completely undermines your argument about us hating on this song
― man down (D-40), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:09 (eleven years ago) link
― man down (D-40), Saturday, May 12, 2012 6:06 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah, definitely! that's part of what i meant when i talked earlier about it seeming to exist on a different planet. i don't necessarily think it's all that significant, fwiw. just strikingly novel.
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:09 (eleven years ago) link
― man down (D-40), Saturday, May 12, 2012 6:09 PM (10 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
no, because i'm not saying that you're wrong to hate it. i'm just saying that there might be equally good reasons to like it.
Enough people seem annoyed and angry to maybe get one of these songs into the ilx top 77. I'll try
― abcfsk, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:10 (eleven years ago) link
― man down (D-40), Saturday, May 12, 2012 9:05 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark
that's honestly pretty much always how i had read your world of young ppl posts, though, dude. obviously it's not remotely the same situation but that's how a lot of your "i know lots of young women who really love nicki minaj" stuff came off to me.
― some dude, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
unless your point is your world of collegiate club kids is way more legit that anyone's world of high school kids or w/e
― some dude, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:12 (eleven years ago) link
i used to be a teen girl. pretty certain i would have thought kitty pryde was 1000 times more shitty then than i do now. maybe that's just age at work - more things qualify as mediocre, less as offensive garbage?
i don't think the audience for this is teen girls though, i think it's 20-something hipster guys.
― sarahell, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:12 (eleven years ago) link
"so you don't think guys often shit on things for being too 'girly', or for 'chicks' or w/e?"
― the late great, Saturday, May 12, 2012 6:07 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
there's no one in particular that i feel like taking shots at. but i do feel like i have encountered sexism in the evaluation of female pop personas on ILX (and been responsible for some of it myself).
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:12 (eleven years ago) link
it meant exactly the opposite, Al! 'my world' explicitly emphasizes the anecdotal nature of it! xxp
― man down (D-40), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:13 (eleven years ago) link
hard to know, but if that winds up being the case, i'll be much less inclined to defend it
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:13 (eleven years ago) link
it reminds me of that "pink and purple" girly "cover" of the "black and yellow" song.
― sarahell, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:15 (eleven years ago) link
in terms of hipster appeal
― sarahell, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:16 (eleven years ago) link
instant clusterfuck, just add youtube girl
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:17 (eleven years ago) link
there was a clusterfuck about the "pink and purple" song? i thought it was cute.
― sarahell, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:19 (eleven years ago) link
no, i mean this thing (and LDR). i watched the pink and purple video cuz someone linked it here somewhere, but remember nothing about it. aside from, yeah, was cute.
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:20 (eleven years ago) link
oh i know, that's why i put it in quotes.
you misread something
i haven't really made ... i merely suggested
no, what you missed was ...
i was referring primarily to ...
that's part of what i meant when i said ...
no, because i'm not saying that you're wrong to hate it.
honestly contenderizer i don't get how you don't expect people to get pissed at you when you spend most of your time telling people that disagree w/ u that they're not understanding what you're saying, it's like really really really condescending and lame
― the late great, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:21 (eleven years ago) link
but that girl was much younger, right? like 8?
― sarahell, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/images/ic/credit/640x395/l/le/least_weasel/least_weasel_1.jpg
^^ this is you, contenderizer
― the late great, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
Tbh adult male rock critics are about as catty as teenage girls
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link
pffft everyone is catty on the internet
― the late great, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link
so what am i supposed to do, man? you came at me hard (and in massive, full-flame condescension mode, btw), and kept reducing things i'd said to weird, distorted cartoons you could sneer at. so i tried to explain myself - speaking simply and struggling to avoid insult and condescension. if that's infuriating, then i'm at a loss.
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, May 12, 2012 9:24 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― the late great, Saturday, May 12, 2012 9:24 PM (59 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
truth bomb
― some dude, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:26 (eleven years ago) link
i think i'm just disappointed that kitty pryde isn't a flaming queer. like that name is perfect for a baby dyke with a brightly colored fauxhawk.
― sarahell, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
re: lastweasel
that's a pretty cute guy, late great! if i'm him, then i'm okay with that. but i don't think i've "weaseled" here. instead i think that you and deej were strawmanning me like champs, and instead of freaking out about it, i just tried to steer things back the points i was actually trying to make.
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
hahaha strawmanning, you're the one that lumped us in with these unnamed people who shit on teenage girls
ok ok ok i'm sorry, let's hug it out
― the late great, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
cont and deej are kind of perfect yin/yangs of each other because they both think they're constantly explaining themselves perfectly and are just horrified to be still so apparently misunderstood
― some dude, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:30 (eleven years ago) link
i formally apologize for accusing the late great and deej of shitting on teenage girls
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:32 (eleven years ago) link
truth bomb (much as i hate to admit it)
it frustrates and confuses me to no end
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:33 (eleven years ago) link
i accept your apology, and in turn i extend one for coming at you hard
but hey, work hard, play hard
― the late great, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:34 (eleven years ago) link
otm
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:34 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Saturday, May 12, 2012 8:30 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
why r u even arguing with me in this thread other than you are constantly trying to beef w/ me?
'my world of young people' = 'in my anecdotal experience, people in my peer group' dont know why that was so confusing for you
― man down (D-40), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:54 (eleven years ago) link
everything ain't beef dogg tone it down like 800%
― some dude, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:58 (eleven years ago) link