Alanis?
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2012 15:20 (twelve years ago) link
i actually was not that into "Uninvited," i just got into Ruth Ruth when i had a (ding ding) Alternative Press subscription and one issue came with a cassette of 2 songs from the aforementioned Epitaph EP, and i got heavy into that and later retroactively appreciated their major label album and came around on "Uninvited"
― some dude, Friday, 11 May 2012 15:21 (twelve years ago) link
great, i've got to listen to friction, baby again now.
― fauxmarc, Friday, 11 May 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
I think pre-emo era AP was just a little after my time. My continuum was RS > Spin > Raygun > CMJ, so I was taking a lot of cues from CMJ samplers around then. No love for Ruth Ruth that I recall, but, hey, I got to be one of the first to hear Jimmie Ray!
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 11 May 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link
Fucking Jimmie Ray.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 11 May 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
hahaha i too subscribed to CMJ during the DJ Rap era. this is like Cros OST levels of legendarily awful:
http://www.legalsounds.com/download-mp3/jimmy-ray/cmj-new-music-monthly-volume-56-april-1998/are-you-jimmy-ray/song_5327646
― some dude, Friday, 11 May 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
haha even the cover of the issue is a perfect storm of lol 90s:
http://991.com/newGallery/Pearl-Jam-CMJ-New-Music---A-552958.jpg
― some dude, Friday, 11 May 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
Vic Chesnutt, John Doe, and Nuge!
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
I just ripped all of those old samplers (the ones that weren't cracked to shit, anyway). Total time capsule, for good and ill.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 11 May 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
i can't knock you for that but there is a disturbing number of people who have seemed to dedicate themselves to the cause of collecting and preserving CMJ comps
― some dude, Friday, 11 May 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
I discovered a lot of ace stuff from those comps, but they really are, like, 90% chaff/shit.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 11 May 2012 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
Like, I ripped 2-3 years worth and culled maybe 20-30 decent songs from the lot.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 11 May 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
i should actually be mining those tracklists for nominees for the commercially disappointing major label rock/alternative albums of 1994/5/7/8
― some dude, Friday, 11 May 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
I probably discovered three times as much awesome stuff from their reviews as I did from their samplers, honestly. And then there were Douglas Wolk's non-music reviews, which were hugely influential.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 11 May 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
xpost
Yes. Yes, you should.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 11 May 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
they really are, like, 90% chaff/shit.
read this as "like, 90% catshit."
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Friday, 11 May 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
holy fuck the BOGMEN
― scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 11 May 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
horrendous trumpet solo
hahah i like "Adhesive" but yeah the trumpet solo is a bumout
― billstevejim, Friday, 11 May 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
lol i never minded the trumpet solo but i'm not going to defend it.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 11 May 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
12 Bar Blues vs Talk Show would be a great way to test just how deeply runs the median-age ILX altrock giving-a-shit index. Would rather hear ''Hello Hello'' than ''Barbarella'' any day of the week, myself.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
I remember "Hello Hello" being an alright single, and that the singer's old band was called 'Ten-Inch Men'.
― Leslie Mann: Boner Machine (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 13 May 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
barbarella is cool, hello hello is ok. the rest of the wieland album is a disaster, and i refuse to believe anyone has heard the rest of the talk show album
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
the Talk Show album should've been called No Head Just Talking
― contendo entertainment system (some dude), Monday, 14 May 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
omg i just realized The Heads' album was released in 1996 too, what a year for failure
― contendo entertainment system (some dude), Monday, 14 May 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link
omg hahahaha
― cinco de extra mayo (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 14 May 2012 04:02 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 14 May 2012 04:07 (eleven years ago) link
I liked this single, but didn't know who it was till way later:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62Mye3v3_KQ
― Leslie Mann: Boner Machine (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 May 2012 04:14 (eleven years ago) link
xp I didn't mind the other STP side-project that lasted for 2 songshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtOjON_n4Vw
― billstevejim, Monday, 14 May 2012 08:08 (eleven years ago) link
oh shit yeah that was good!
― contendo entertainment system (some dude), Monday, 14 May 2012 11:03 (eleven years ago) link
i don't rc ever hearing that before. and it's pretty bad.
― goole, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
it was a #12 Modern Rock hit off of the Tank Girl soundtrack, i shit you not.
listening to it now, not as good as i remember.
― kitty shayme (some dude), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
that was one of those grunge side projects that confused me because i thought it was a whole new band with a soundalike singer rather than the actual Weiland (see also: Layne Staley's Mad Season, and tbh i even thought maybe that wasn't Vedder on "Hunger Strike" at first)
― kitty shayme (some dude), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link
btw it occurred to me that a good number of these albums (No Code, Hi-Fi, Black Love, Tiny Music, Recovering the Sattelites) follow the 'mellow/offbeat opening track, big anthemic uptempo 2nd track' formula that's kind of a hallmark of bands at their commercial peak trying to throw a curveball at their fanbase.
― kitty shayme (some dude), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
holy shit I've totally forgotten about "Mockingbird Girl." I liked it a lot at the time.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
relistening to Tiny Music...i think i like pretty much every song on this besides "Lady Picture Show," which is just pure garbage
― kitty shayme (some dude), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
see I just can't get my head around that at all. I pretty much stopped liking them after the first album.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
i was a tween Seattle stan when Core dropped and wanted STP on the "death to false grunge" chopping block. imo Purple was a totally unanticipated turnaround to become a worthwhile distraction and Tiny Music was a lesser but respectable follow-up that was still miles ahead of Core or anything they've done since.
― kitty shayme (some dude), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
I never really listened to Tiny Music, but I thought Purple was streets ahead of Core (which was okay but never really did a whole lot for me).
― Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
hey remember when dave plugged speakers into his walkman and the whole back half of the band bus sang along to the acoustic version of plush on the way home after the game?
― los blue jeans, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 01:15 (eleven years ago) link
if that happened to you, i am sorry.
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 08:25 (eleven years ago) link
I remember singing the Fire Water Burn chorus (with hee-haws in place of expletives) on the bus on a band trip to Toronto
― cinco de extra mayo (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:41 (eleven years ago) link
that story chilled me to the bone
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:52 (eleven years ago) link
1996 really does feel like the year the magic was gone from everything.
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:53 (eleven years ago) link
you could really smell the death of alt-rock in how hard critics tried to pretend to like Entroducing
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:55 (eleven years ago) link
i need to read this whole thread obviously, but the 1996 Pazz & results has stone classics in Fugees and Johnny Cash and maybe Maxwell then a whole bunch of "not-as-good-as" and LOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL from the alt-rock class of 1989-1995
1. Beck: Odelay (DGC) 1134 (110)2. Fugees: The Score (Ruffhouse/Columbia) 602 (58)3. Sleater-Kinney: Call the Doctor (Chainsaw) 456 (35)4. DJ Shadow: Endtroducing . . . DJ Shadow (Mo' Wax/FFRR) 404 (40)5. Los Lobos: Colossal Head (Warner Bros.) 403 (37)6. Steve Earle: I Feel Alright (Warner Bros.) 387 (37)7. Stereolab: Emperor Tomato Ketchup (Elektra) 379 (35)8. Amy Rigby: Diary of a Mod Housewife (Koch) 371 (34)9. Tricky: Pre-Millennium Tension (Island) 355 (38)10. Pulp: Different Class (Island) 351 (31)11. R.E.M.: New Adventures in Hi-Fi (Warner Bros.) 348 (38)12. Everything but the Girl: Walking Wounded (Atlantic) 340 (30)13. Patti Smith: Gone Again (Arista) 330 (31)14. Wilco: Being There (Reprise) 264 (26)15. Cassandra Wilson: New Moon Daughter (Blue Note) 225 (19)16. [File Under Prince]: Emancipation (NRG) 213 (21)17. Iris DeMent: The Way I Should (Warner Bros.) 211 (18)18. Me'Shell NdegéOcello: Peace Beyond Passion (Maverick/Reprise) 209 (21)19. Nearly God: Nearly God (Island) 183 (17)20. Maxwell: Maxwell's Urban Hang Suite (Columbia) 179 (17)21. Johnny Cash: Unchained (American) 178 (18)22. Ani DiFranco: Dilate (Righteous Babe) 167 (16)23. Gillian Welch: Revival (Almo Sounds) 156 (16)24. Imperial Teen: Seasick (Slash/London) 153 (13)25. Soundgarden: Down on the Upside (A&M) 148 (15)26. Sheryl Crow: Sheryl Crow (A&M) 146 (15)27. Cibo Matto: Viva! La Woman (Warner Bros.) 143 (16)28. Nirvana: From the Muddy Banks of the Wishkah (DGC) 124 (16)29. Rage Against the Machine: Evil Empire (Epic) 122 (13)30. Toni Tony Toné: House of Music (Mercury) 117 (12)31. Curtis Mayfield: New World Order (Warner Bros.) 113 (10)32. Joe Henry: Trampoline (Mammoth) 112 (12)33. The Roots: Illadelph Halflife (DGC) 112 (10)34. Sublime: Sublime (Gasoline Alley/MCA) 111 (11)35. Neutral Milk Hotel: On Avery Island (Merge) 111 (10)36. Sebadoh: Harmacy (Sub Pop) 110 (11)37. The Olivia Tremor Control: Dusk at Cubist Castle (Flydaddy) 108 (12)38. Screaming Trees: Dust (Epic) 107 (09)39. Jon Spencer Blues Explosion: Now I Got Worry (Matador) 105 (11)40. Richard Thompson: You? Me? Us? (Capitol) 103 (9)
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 12:58 (eleven years ago) link
As was noted earlier, when it was '96, Tricky had a very good year. He had a very good year when he issued two brand new LPs (both of which sounded great to me). Some would argue he reached his peak. He had a very good year.
― Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:11 (eleven years ago) link
Also, I didn't get into those Elephant 6 albums until the next year, and '97 feels like the strict demarcation of the point when I'd stopped listening to much radio/MTV "alternative" and was much more firmly on the indie train, so it breaks my brain a little to see that stuff show up in the '96 P&J poll. But those are both good albums (I might, controversially enough, slightly prefer On Avery Island to In The Aeroplane Over The Sea, partially because I felt it was a more successful distillation of their amazing live show).
― Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 13:20 (eleven years ago) link
Johnny Cash doing Real Music Karaoke versions of Beck and Soundgarden songs is as sad an alt-rock hangover as anything on this thread imo
― kitty shayme (some dude), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
I didn't hear those Elephant 6 acts – I didn't hear the moniker, period – on my college station. It took years.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
I think I initially discovered them via Raygun, but seeing NMH open for Superchunk and then regularly shopping at Luna Music in Indianapolis (who put out E6 side projects and comps on their in-house label and sold pretty much every E6 thing ever made) was the one-two punch that sucked me in.
― Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link