review of nominations and VOTING for (very nebulously defined) ELECTRONIC DANCE TRACKS of the 00s

The mistake is trying to find a single line where "electronic dance" stops and starts.

There isn't one.

Think of it more like a venn diagram with about 6 overlapping circles. At some point particular selections are just within too few of those circles to seem like a good fit.

Morgenstern is clearly within a more indie-pop/post-IDM tradition than is Echochord / Voices From The Lake. This means that she's at a bit of a disadvantage even when operating in the same tempo etc.

That said from memory her remix of Ellen Allien's "Stadtkind" was a pearler. So I'd be reluctant to rule her out except on a track by track basis.

think of it as a sphere w its center everywhere an it's circumference nowhere

the idea of ranking 50 tracks was too daunting

so i am uploading my top 50 tracks to special software where i will compare two tracks side-by-side, tournament style, and then it'll spit out a ranking

FUTURE

sure but how do you form the brackets?

tournament style isn't actually the right way to put it, it actually uses a sorting algorithm (quicksort)

so in order for the ranking to be valid, my comparisons have to be transitive

which, ha ha

Think of it more like a venn diagram with about 6 overlapping circles. At some point particular selections are just within too few of those circles to seem like a good fit.

I agree, that's why I think artists like Pole and Monolake, as well as some of B. Morgenstern's tracks, fit here. They're not necessarily super dancey, but they clearly share enough reference points with "pure" techno and house to fit in the same aesthetic. Whereas someone like, say, Fever Ray has a totally different lineage, even if her music is electronic and has beats.

Girl in the fever ray video is dancing! I wont defend it tho because I nommed it and said I didnt mind if they were removed because I wouldnt vote for it same with boc but it seems nobody cared and they ended up in the final list either way.

did you not get ballot?

Got my shortlist down to 50, just need to sort out the order. There's tonnes of stuff on the noms list I've never heard and I will try and get through it all eventually but might just stick with tracks I already know and love.

The Spotify list has the wrong Der Zyklus track (Spotify listing error it seems) it should be this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBKRYBwguqk

Definite top 10 for me.

The mislabelled track on spotify is actually swapped over with "Die Dämmerung Von Nanotech".

Ha, that's annoying! You're welcome to delete that track from the playlist - anyone can edit it

I'd forgotten how much I like Brutalga Square. I've probably ony listened to it several times since it was being played in clubs in years and in my mind I thought the years wouldn't have been kind. I guess it helps that while it was played in Minimal circles, it isn't really Minimal.

Don't Feed the Cat now sounds like a very lazy retread of Brutalga however.

crackle box i did not receive a ballot from you

in fact i haven't received *any* new ballots since yesterday ... so ... VOTE VOTE VOTE

Well, I've wittled it down to 380 at the moment! We've got another 3 weeks though?

Just sent my ballot, did you receive?

indeed i did

also you have until june 1st to submit yr ballot and possibly later if you forget that date but i will start tabulating on june 2nd and finish when i finish

crackle box ballots go to

THE period ESSENTIAL period MIX period 77 at GMAIL dot COM

A (presumably) unintended side effect of this poll is that I've been ploughing through the spotify playlist, got as far as Azzido da Bass, and suddenly remembered this advert:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39LvqbPPpys&feature=related

so we won't discuss the legibility (is that the right word?) of !!! and the likes?

Can't believe that all this time I forgot the Prince Language remix of Into the Night! Which is to say, it'll be on my ballot no question.

eligibility

legibility means whether you can understand something (if you can't, it's illegible) usually in a visual sense (handwriting)

are those !!! tracks mostly guitar or mostly synth?

we can discuss !!! it if you like but rather than people say "what about ..." and me have to go look it up and make a ruling i would rather people throw out arguments about whatever they think should be removed, preferably w/ youtube links, which "the community" can then look at and discuss, i don't really care to be the chief inspector of nominations or whatever

puritanical NIMBYism and <20 tracks i could really get behind means i'm going to flake out on this. es tut mir Leid. i hang my head. ;_;

mmm since we've definitely struck down < 30 tracks from the original nomination list i think you have nobody but yourself to blame

OTOH if you (or anybody else) wants to do a write-in ballot or add to the nomination list i'm not opposed

i do wonder if you were to add 30+ nominations that you could get behind without fear of NIMBYism (which i'm not is the right term) what those nominations would be

miniologue that's a nice way to give me feedback - should be minilogue

in the end (i want you to cry) tensnake - artist and title back to front

got em

how many ballots so far?

same as before, no new ballots

VOTE PEOPLE VOTE

in other news i just sent a professional email to a stranger from the email i am using for this poll, god damn you google multiple sign-in

I will vote in the fullness of time

yeah sorry, it's a problem w/ me, not the poll, can't get behind anything right now.

working on it

I voted! And I managed to be surprisingly purist in my ballot too.

Looking at my selections though, I'm simultaneously struck by the sheer wealth of musical quality it presents as well as how seemingly pedestrian my tastes are.

Bring on the 90s poll amirite!

(obviously not right away, of course)

i'm more excited for the 88-99 poll too

going back a few days here but TLG misquoted teh 1st appearance of the gay homo house meme:

for the record, Buttez/Pato is one of my favorite posters ever.

-- gr8080, Tuesday, March 18, 2008 7:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

you are not only into terrible, gay, homo, awful, house, music but you are also a complete homo and suck tons of penis.

― chaki, Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:35 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its the comma between "house" and "music" that made it stick imo

otm

chaki or gr8080?

Oh man, I'm going to have to listen to soooo much techno before the 90s poll.

I just got stuck on the X-101 through X-103 series and I'm going to be at a loss to figure out which tracks to vote for.

Hey late great or any of the dance thread regulars, if you want to add me on Facebook I think I'm the only friend of Tim or the Reverend with this first name.

i would but i'm not friends with anybody on facebook ;_;

Well I post almost everything on my Facebook that I post here so you're not really missing out.

Except for some topical Wisconsin related humor.

chaki or gr8080?

ha, the comma

Aargh, again I curse Canada's hate for Spotify.

isnt it the other way around