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half the people watching these shows are used to cable series w/ <15 episodes a year anyway.

The point is more that, as croupier says, this shows a marked lack of network faith in/dedication to a show within the context of US broadcast television. Particularly shows that are as far along as these three are.

what does 'faith' matter except as to whether a show has a longterm future, which is not a question in this case?

Comedy Central is already airing re-runs of Community, it'd be pretty easy for them to put out some new episodes too

I'm saving that gif for when Spin ceases publication.

hell doing shortened seasons just gets audiences ready for "cable"-length seasons of these shows on cable stations.

like once a network says "you'll be on this much longer, no more, no less," it doesn't really matter how supposedly dedicated the network is, short of doing something needlessly cruel like making them do 4 bottle episodes and airing them as a block on a friday night. (xpost)

who knows, maybe the wacky president bill pullman sitcom will go like gangbusters and NBC can join the "lol tumblr WHO NEEDS YOU" pack

shows end, so it's not the end of the world even if p&r + community don't get picked up anywhere else. all these ppl are going to continue to work - tiny fey, amy pohler, dan harmon, all the casts are going to go on to other things, other funny things will appear with them and with other ppl, life will go on, my dvr will not go unfed.

i think it's kind of a given that NBC is going to continue going down the tubes no matter what they do, tbh, so i'm not going to go "bad idea, you guys are so screwed now!" as if there's anything anyone knows that would un-screw them. i'm actually kind of curious to see what the total collapse and expiration of a major broadcast network looks like, and have no problem with them airing some good shows on the way down.

this is like telling a partner that you're breaking up but they can stay till the lease is up and still have sex with you until then. get ready for some nights alone while they're off on dates, NBC!

like once a network says "you'll be on this much longer, no more, no less," it doesn't really matter how supposedly dedicated the network is

I guess not as much in the age of DVD/internet/streaming as it did back in the day. But in terms of the television broadcast itself, it's not even a little bit unprecedented for a network to shelve a shitload of episodes or, as you say, burn them off in a three-hour block. It's not just about getting to make the episodes. I'm sure they'd also like for them to be seen.

so...the cast and crew are going to be entertaining job offers while working on the last season? like every tv show that knows it's on its way out? (xpost)

really cracks me up that they'd allow headlines like this after what happened with leno. like, the one thing they should know not to do is announce you've given an arbitrary end-date to one of the few semi-successful things you have going on.

don't be dense, sd.

eh, the Leno thing was a genuine debacle. this is more on the level of "oh they're letting the Chuck fans have one more year to wrap things up, how nice."

matthew perry's "go away", anne heche's "spare me", ryan murphy's "the new terrible,"

i'm not being dense, i genuinely don't understand what the "your soon-to-be-ex-TV show is going to be out on dates" metaphor means.

you are being dense, because you missed that COUGAR TOWN is moving to TBS, and NBC has just happily jettisoned three critically popular properties, basically leaving them with zero.

i'm actually kind of curious to see what the total collapse and expiration of a major broadcast network looks like, and have no problem with them airing some good shows on the way down.

This, basically. NBC has been run by mindblowingly dumb fucks for at least half a decade now. This looks like it could really be the beginning of the end for them. I mean, regardless of whether some people dislike these particular shows or care whether or not they come back, there's an established audience who would probably stick around for as long as these shows are on. I guarantee that a large part of the reason NBC fails to see that is because it isn't reflected in the Nielsen numbers, which are growing increasingly-antiquated with respect to measuring the actual viewership of a television show (particularly shows that appeal to a younger demographic).

I dunno. Once that Thursday night block is gone, SNL will be literally the only NBC show I watch. So...kudos to NBC, I guess?

whether any of these shows jump to cable and make their good-for-cable ratings into a virtue instead of a liability doesn't actually hurt NBC or even make them look stupid, though. (xpost)

actually, it does

Maybe with some new shows they can finally beat Univision:

http://instagr.am/p/KdI-e_Md6F/

i meant i'm not being dense on purpose in a way that warrants the reply "don't be dense," obviously i can't control whether i am actually dumb

now i don't have to care about the fate of nbc, phew

whether any of these shows jump to cable and make their good-for-cable ratings into a virtue instead of a liability doesn't actually hurt NBC or even make them look stupid, though.

It absolutely does. They've been dead last in the ratings for years, and it's increasingly appearing that their method of attempting to fix this is to chuck everything out and start over from scratch, i.e. effectively become the new CW. Maybe it'll be a process of hurting themselves to ultimately improve themselves down the line, but it's undoubtedly going to be a painful process.

i dunno, i feel like it's just some very forced schadenfreude to act like NBC is going to be screwed BECAUSE of this and not because of a hundred other much bigger reasons

Wow, I don't think I'd really looked at the current NBC slate of shows, but it's largely very Grimm (ell oh ell).

i mean i'm sure Futurama fans watch the new eps on Comedy Central and go HAHA FUCK YOU FOX but i don't think Murdoch really gives a shit as long as Groening is happy driving the Simpsons money train

Oh, come on, all American sitcoms run too many seasons. I'd be happy if they were all cut down to 13.

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Oh, I wouldn't pretend that this act in and of itself is gonna sink the ship. It's just, as you say, one among many displays suggesting that the execs at NBC don't know what the fuck they're doing.

some dude, I think it's fair to say that most television execs don't give shit one about the shows they air. As has been noted before elsewhere, TV shows are just ways to fill time and keep people's attention between commercials. But as viewership goes down, so does ad revenue. Execs most definitely care about things like that. At any rate, comparing the potential loss of these shows in the context of NBC's current state and Fox's loss of Futurama is kinda apples and oranges.

i dunno, i feel like it's just some very forced schadenfreude to act like NBC is going to be screwed BECAUSE of this and not because of a hundred other much bigger reasons

no one is saying this

What is the combined audience for these shows? Comparable to "Girls" plus "Veep" or something? 3 mil?

is anyone considering the possibility that this might actually be a good move for nbc

'cancel failing shows' isn't really that far-fetched of an idea

these shows aren't doing appreciably worse than any of their other terrible shows though.

as i said upthread, if any of their pile of new pilots stick they could laugh this all off, but i don't know how announcing that you're jettisoning your most hailed shows in a year in and of itself can be a good move.

doesn't look like they really care anymore about appealing to audiences that care about a show's acclaim though. this looks like a hail mary to capture the masses that watch CBS, which the thursday night lineup could never do. can't really blame NBC for trying to stay alive.

and if they're trying to move away from the network-tv-for-tumblrers brand, the jettisoning might not be a bad idea at all.

wait, if an audience doesn't care about a show's acclaim, why would they care that a network has announced its cancelling all the critically popular shows? surrounding these shows with a bunch of CBS shit and then kicking the nerds out when they pale in the ratings I get, but I don't know what audience will appreciate an "all-clear in a year".

for the same reason anyone does anything with regard to 'branding'? the brand wasn't working, audiences were avoiding it, they're changing the brand. that's all.

brand brand brand

- don madman from the critically acclaimed series 'mda men'

again, i am not questioning the decision to be CBS II with more multi-camera shit (other than the fact that ABC is actually having some success with single camera sitcoms and will probably love this move to abandon brains entirely), I questioned the decision to declare that brains have a year to get out.

because nerds are losers and everyone wants them to feel bad

even nerds, judging by this thread

oh definitely

If they're desperate to be seen as non-nerdy, ending all these shows immediately would seem the smoother move than to risk giving them a whole year to damage PR and sign deals with other networks while Matthew Perry's "Go Away" tanks, but then NBC has consistently found "goodbye" to be the hardest word.

ending all these shows immediately would seem the smoother move than to risk giving them a whole year to damage PR

very strange opinion

i guess you missed conan/leno

that was a pretty different situation

i mean maybe nbc misses having employees badmouthing them in the press while taking meetings

So Community apparently isn't alone: The Office will also be getting a regime change, although apparently not coupled with the complete overhaul which had been discussed.

You guys can breathe easily now: Rules of Engagement will be back for a seventh season.

i saw the Revolution promo in the theater before The Avengers and i thought it was gonna be a movie

Also: holy shit, my interest in reading a book about the history of NBC's last few decades has apparently retroactively spurred the universe (and Warren Littlefield) into action.

i'd much rather hear about the failing years of the past decade tbh (The Office/30 Rock on)

So Community apparently isn't alone: The Office will also be getting a regime change, although apparently not coupled with the complete overhaul which had been discussed.

It can't get much worse at this point, a change might improve it slightly.

So Community apparently isn't alone: The Office will also be getting a regime change, although apparently not coupled with the complete overhaul which had been discussed.

with the showrunner and one of the most senior writer/exec producers leaving, it would be hard not to have a "regime change"

Paul Lieberstein is doing the Dwight Shrute spinoff.

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Um.......yeah? I don't understand your scare quotes.

well we've already discussed itt Lieberstein leaving, and Kaling's series got picked up weeks ago

https://twitter.com/SenJohnMcCain/status/226074304410968064

RIP

http://c0014394.r32.cf1.rackcdn.com/x2_d80304e

I hope he's not actually playing John McCain but a fellow city council member with a maverick past.

I've forgotten the finale but doesn't Ben take the DC gig?

yeah spoilers or whatever but they're filming in washington d.c. right now, there's pictures of andy and april right outside the white house

rip something

http://gawker.com/5941190/amy-poehler-and-will-arnett-are-separating-so-go-home-and-break-up-with-your-boyfriend-because-love-is-a-lie

aw man

:(

I saw that yesterday. Makes me genuinely bummed out.

they've made a huge mistake

maybe they'll work things out and get back together

Why do celebrities get married at all? At least there are no kids involved. Oh, wait ...

yeah anyone who is married for nearly a decade and has kids and then breaks up because they are unhappy together is a real monster

Unless the divorcing parents are complete assholes to each other and around their kids, kids in divorced families turn out okay for the most part.

They did last a pretty long time, I admit that. It just seems that celebrity marriages often don't even meet the modest margin of the 50/50 national average or whatever. Kids in divorced families do generally turn out OK. Celebrity kids, on the other hand ...

This was Arnett's second marriage, I guess. The third Mrs. Arnett should get something good in writing first.

it'd probably be impossible to quantify but i do wonder if divorce rates ARE higher for celebrities or if you just get a skewed impression since splits get so much more press than long happy marriages.

First, you must establish measurable criteria for celebrity.

Everyone that's been divorced twice is a monster, I'm glad they are finally getting called out on the carpet, don't stop speaking out Josh

tbf will arnett IS a monster

http://www.officialpsds.com/images/thumbs/The-Missing-Link-psd27995.png

Just look at him....I pity those kids

i had a feeling and i just checked -- it was oct of last year that kim and thurston announced that they were splitting up
does this have to happen once a year or something? geez.

Susan Sarandon & Tim Robbins split in 2009. Who was it in 2010?

i stopped believing in love when eva longoria and tony parker couldn't make it work