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Apparently NBC's picked up a ton of new pilots. Why not just pepper them around the established shows and see if anything sticks BEFORE announcing you can do better than cult hits?

da croupier, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like all three of these shows but it's no big loss. It was fun while it lasted.

polyphonic, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

;_; for P&R -- i can't live w/t Ron Swanson -- but meh to the other two. 30 rock has seen better days, and i was always on the fence wr2 Community so no harm no foul if it goes.

Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

if cougar town is going to TBS, I guarantee that Community or Parks & Rec if not both will find another home elsewhere

da croupier, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

That's totally cool, I enjoyed the hell out of them and now I will have an extra couple of hours free each week. There sure as shit isn't anything as good on the horizon to replace them.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

half the people watching these shows are used to cable series w/ <15 episodes a year anyway.

The point is more that, as croupier says, this shows a marked lack of network faith in/dedication to a show within the context of US broadcast television. Particularly shows that are as far along as these three are.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

what does 'faith' matter except as to whether a show has a longterm future, which is not a question in this case?

some dude, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Comedy Central is already airing re-runs of Community, it'd be pretty easy for them to put out some new episodes too

da croupier, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm saving that gif for when Spin ceases publication.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

hell doing shortened seasons just gets audiences ready for "cable"-length seasons of these shows on cable stations.

da croupier, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

like once a network says "you'll be on this much longer, no more, no less," it doesn't really matter how supposedly dedicated the network is, short of doing something needlessly cruel like making them do 4 bottle episodes and airing them as a block on a friday night. (xpost)

some dude, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

who knows, maybe the wacky president bill pullman sitcom will go like gangbusters and NBC can join the "lol tumblr WHO NEEDS YOU" pack

da croupier, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

shows end, so it's not the end of the world even if p&r + community don't get picked up anywhere else. all these ppl are going to continue to work - tiny fey, amy pohler, dan harmon, all the casts are going to go on to other things, other funny things will appear with them and with other ppl, life will go on, my dvr will not go unfed.

Mordy, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think it's kind of a given that NBC is going to continue going down the tubes no matter what they do, tbh, so i'm not going to go "bad idea, you guys are so screwed now!" as if there's anything anyone knows that would un-screw them. i'm actually kind of curious to see what the total collapse and expiration of a major broadcast network looks like, and have no problem with them airing some good shows on the way down.

some dude, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is like telling a partner that you're breaking up but they can stay till the lease is up and still have sex with you until then. get ready for some nights alone while they're off on dates, NBC!

da croupier, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

like once a network says "you'll be on this much longer, no more, no less," it doesn't really matter how supposedly dedicated the network is

I guess not as much in the age of DVD/internet/streaming as it did back in the day. But in terms of the television broadcast itself, it's not even a little bit unprecedented for a network to shelve a shitload of episodes or, as you say, burn them off in a three-hour block. It's not just about getting to make the episodes. I'm sure they'd also like for them to be seen.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

so...the cast and crew are going to be entertaining job offers while working on the last season? like every tv show that knows it's on its way out? (xpost)

some dude, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

really cracks me up that they'd allow headlines like this after what happened with leno. like, the one thing they should know not to do is announce you've given an arbitrary end-date to one of the few semi-successful things you have going on.

don't be dense, sd.

da croupier, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

eh, the Leno thing was a genuine debacle. this is more on the level of "oh they're letting the Chuck fans have one more year to wrap things up, how nice."

some dude, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

matthew perry's "go away", anne heche's "spare me", ryan murphy's "the new terrible,"

am0n, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm not being dense, i genuinely don't understand what the "your soon-to-be-ex-TV show is going to be out on dates" metaphor means.

some dude, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

you are being dense, because you missed that COUGAR TOWN is moving to TBS, and NBC has just happily jettisoned three critically popular properties, basically leaving them with zero.

da croupier, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm actually kind of curious to see what the total collapse and expiration of a major broadcast network looks like, and have no problem with them airing some good shows on the way down.

This, basically. NBC has been run by mindblowingly dumb fucks for at least half a decade now. This looks like it could really be the beginning of the end for them. I mean, regardless of whether some people dislike these particular shows or care whether or not they come back, there's an established audience who would probably stick around for as long as these shows are on. I guarantee that a large part of the reason NBC fails to see that is because it isn't reflected in the Nielsen numbers, which are growing increasingly-antiquated with respect to measuring the actual viewership of a television show (particularly shows that appeal to a younger demographic).

I dunno. Once that Thursday night block is gone, SNL will be literally the only NBC show I watch. So...kudos to NBC, I guess?

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

whether any of these shows jump to cable and make their good-for-cable ratings into a virtue instead of a liability doesn't actually hurt NBC or even make them look stupid, though. (xpost)

some dude, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

actually, it does

da croupier, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Maybe with some new shows they can finally beat Univision:

http://instagr.am/p/KdI-e_Md6F/

polyphonic, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

i meant i'm not being dense on purpose in a way that warrants the reply "don't be dense," obviously i can't control whether i am actually dumb

some dude, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

now i don't have to care about the fate of nbc, phew

remarkable story of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by (zachlyon), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

whether any of these shows jump to cable and make their good-for-cable ratings into a virtue instead of a liability doesn't actually hurt NBC or even make them look stupid, though.

It absolutely does. They've been dead last in the ratings for years, and it's increasingly appearing that their method of attempting to fix this is to chuck everything out and start over from scratch, i.e. effectively become the new CW. Maybe it'll be a process of hurting themselves to ultimately improve themselves down the line, but it's undoubtedly going to be a painful process.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

i dunno, i feel like it's just some very forced schadenfreude to act like NBC is going to be screwed BECAUSE of this and not because of a hundred other much bigger reasons

some dude, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wow, I don't think I'd really looked at the current NBC slate of shows, but it's largely very Grimm (ell oh ell).

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

i mean i'm sure Futurama fans watch the new eps on Comedy Central and go HAHA FUCK YOU FOX but i don't think Murdoch really gives a shit as long as Groening is happy driving the Simpsons money train

some dude, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh, come on, all American sitcoms run too many seasons. I'd be happy if they were all cut down to 13.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

xxxpost

Oh, I wouldn't pretend that this act in and of itself is gonna sink the ship. It's just, as you say, one among many displays suggesting that the execs at NBC don't know what the fuck they're doing.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

some dude, I think it's fair to say that most television execs don't give shit one about the shows they air. As has been noted before elsewhere, TV shows are just ways to fill time and keep people's attention between commercials. But as viewership goes down, so does ad revenue. Execs most definitely care about things like that. At any rate, comparing the potential loss of these shows in the context of NBC's current state and Fox's loss of Futurama is kinda apples and oranges.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

i dunno, i feel like it's just some very forced schadenfreude to act like NBC is going to be screwed BECAUSE of this and not because of a hundred other much bigger reasons

no one is saying this

da croupier, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

What is the combined audience for these shows? Comparable to "Girls" plus "Veep" or something? 3 mil?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

is anyone considering the possibility that this might actually be a good move for nbc

'cancel failing shows' isn't really that far-fetched of an idea

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

these shows aren't doing appreciably worse than any of their other terrible shows though.

polyphonic, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

as i said upthread, if any of their pile of new pilots stick they could laugh this all off, but i don't know how announcing that you're jettisoning your most hailed shows in a year in and of itself can be a good move.

da croupier, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

doesn't look like they really care anymore about appealing to audiences that care about a show's acclaim though. this looks like a hail mary to capture the masses that watch CBS, which the thursday night lineup could never do. can't really blame NBC for trying to stay alive.

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

and if they're trying to move away from the network-tv-for-tumblrers brand, the jettisoning might not be a bad idea at all.

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

wait, if an audience doesn't care about a show's acclaim, why would they care that a network has announced its cancelling all the critically popular shows? surrounding these shows with a bunch of CBS shit and then kicking the nerds out when they pale in the ratings I get, but I don't know what audience will appreciate an "all-clear in a year".

da croupier, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

for the same reason anyone does anything with regard to 'branding'? the brand wasn't working, audiences were avoiding it, they're changing the brand. that's all.

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

brand brand brand

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

- don madman from the critically acclaimed series 'mda men'

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

again, i am not questioning the decision to be CBS II with more multi-camera shit (other than the fact that ABC is actually having some success with single camera sitcoms and will probably love this move to abandon brains entirely), I questioned the decision to declare that brains have a year to get out.

da croupier, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

because nerds are losers and everyone wants them to feel bad

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

even nerds, judging by this thread

da croupier, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh definitely

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

this has been the best 30 rock season in several seasons

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Revolution looks a bit like Jericho--which also a bunch of 1776 jive mixed in with the disaster/sf--but probably done better.

President Keyes, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

looks pretty low budget and bad for a network show, imo, especially comparing it to something like Fallen Skies

Nhex, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

First thing I noticed in the Revolution promo was how crisp and new their clothes looked, supposedly after 15 years of no electricty. And then I couldn't un-notice it. I know it's possible to continue with fine tailoring by hand or water/animal-powered looms, but it's not fucking likely everyone would continue to do that as they struggled to survive.

nickn, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 23:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

try explaining that to an nbc suit

President Keyes, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 23:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

So Community apparently isn't alone: The Office will also be getting a regime change, although apparently not coupled with the complete overhaul which had been discussed.

Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 21 May 2012 20:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

You guys can breathe easily now: Rules of Engagement will be back for a seventh season.

polyphonic, Monday, 21 May 2012 20:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

i saw the Revolution promo in the theater before The Avengers and i thought it was gonna be a movie

tell peeta my fire dress is draggin on the floor (some dude), Monday, 21 May 2012 20:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also: holy shit, my interest in reading a book about the history of NBC's last few decades has apparently retroactively spurred the universe (and Warren Littlefield) into action.

Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 21 May 2012 20:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'd much rather hear about the failing years of the past decade tbh (The Office/30 Rock on)

Nhex, Monday, 21 May 2012 20:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

So Community apparently isn't alone: The Office will also be getting a regime change, although apparently not coupled with the complete overhaul which had been discussed.

It can't get much worse at this point, a change might improve it slightly.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Monday, 21 May 2012 20:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

So Community apparently isn't alone: The Office will also be getting a regime change, although apparently not coupled with the complete overhaul which had been discussed.

with the showrunner and one of the most senior writer/exec producers leaving, it would be hard not to have a "regime change"

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Monday, 21 May 2012 22:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Paul Lieberstein is doing the Dwight Shrute spinoff.

polyphonic, Monday, 21 May 2012 22:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

xpost

Um.......yeah? I don't understand your scare quotes.

Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 21 May 2012 22:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

well we've already discussed itt Lieberstein leaving, and Kaling's series got picked up weeks ago

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 00:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Thursday, 19 July 2012 22:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

I hope he's not actually playing John McCain but a fellow city council member with a maverick past.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 19 July 2012 22:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've forgotten the finale but doesn't Ben take the DC gig?

jbn, Thursday, 19 July 2012 22:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah spoilers or whatever but they're filming in washington d.c. right now, there's pictures of andy and april right outside the white house

deist mountain dew (reddening), Thursday, 19 July 2012 22:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

aw man

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 7 September 2012 19:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

:(

Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 September 2012 19:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

I saw that yesterday. Makes me genuinely bummed out.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 September 2012 19:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

they've made a huge mistake

Number None, Friday, 7 September 2012 19:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

maybe they'll work things out and get back together

Mordy, Friday, 7 September 2012 20:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

Why do celebrities get married at all? At least there are no kids involved. Oh, wait ...

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 September 2012 20:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah anyone who is married for nearly a decade and has kids and then breaks up because they are unhappy together is a real monster

Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 September 2012 21:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

Unless the divorcing parents are complete assholes to each other and around their kids, kids in divorced families turn out okay for the most part.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 September 2012 21:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

They did last a pretty long time, I admit that. It just seems that celebrity marriages often don't even meet the modest margin of the 50/50 national average or whatever. Kids in divorced families do generally turn out OK. Celebrity kids, on the other hand ...

This was Arnett's second marriage, I guess. The third Mrs. Arnett should get something good in writing first.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 September 2012 21:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

it'd probably be impossible to quantify but i do wonder if divorce rates ARE higher for celebrities or if you just get a skewed impression since splits get so much more press than long happy marriages.

drag-∞n (some dude), Friday, 7 September 2012 23:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

First, you must establish measurable criteria for celebrity.

Aimless, Friday, 7 September 2012 23:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Everyone that's been divorced twice is a monster, I'm glad they are finally getting called out on the carpet, don't stop speaking out Josh

Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 September 2012 23:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

tbf will arnett IS a monster

drag-∞n (some dude), Friday, 7 September 2012 23:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

Just look at him....I pity those kids

Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 September 2012 23:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

i had a feeling and i just checked -- it was oct of last year that kim and thurston announced that they were splitting up
does this have to happen once a year or something? geez.

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Friday, 7 September 2012 23:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

Susan Sarandon & Tim Robbins split in 2009. Who was it in 2010?

Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 September 2012 23:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

i stopped believing in love when eva longoria and tony parker couldn't make it work

manic pixie, mercy, yo chick she's so quirky (some dude), Friday, 7 September 2012 23:51 (1 year ago) Permalink


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