Is it time for us nerds to start anticipating THE AVENGERS, directed by Joss Whedon?

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I thought this ok, not as fun as, say, Star Trek or M:I4. Banner definitely a highlight.

raw feel vegan (silby), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Maria Hill ("the other woman") is a major character in the (very good) Matt Fraction written Iron Man reboot and has loads of neat backstory

(Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

The initial financing deal, for Marvel Entertainment, Inc., consists of $525 million for the possible production of 10 films, based on its comic book properties, over the next seven years. The debt facility will fund initial development, including scripts for each production, and they maintain sole “green light” control. Understandably there are some restrictions to taking a loan, Marvel cannot withdraw profits until after the release of the third film and only if certain financial parameters are met. The original properties for those 10 films, announced in the press release, were Captain America, Nick Fury, The Avengers, Black Panther, Ant-Man, Cloak & Dagger, Dr. Strange, Hawkeye, Power Pack and Shang-Chi. In the original press release, the budget’s ceiling is at $165 million and can have a “rating no more restrictive than PG-13.” The explanation of why Marvel had been doing everything on the cheap was apparent from its initial deal.

i can see all of those but POWER PACK; wonder if they'll combine the characters with Runaways and make it on the outskirts of the marvel u.

(Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

They sort of have the same drawback - getting kids to enjoy a movie where their parents are dead / evil.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wait no I've completely misremembered Power Pack there!

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Power Pack would be ok, but Black Panther a la Hudlin is one I'd really like to see. Did the animated version planned for BET ever happen?

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

they made an animated black panther thing. i think it's on netflix instant.

(Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

she managed to avoid being hit from point-blank range by hawkete about ten times at the start, i wasn't too sure about that tbh...

i figured that mind-controlled hawkeye wasn't quite as good a shot as real hawkeye

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

like, his (suppressed) conscience was fucking with his aim

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp - I agree entirely provided that Hudlin is a typo for Priest.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

please please please make Dr. Strange/Clooney vehicle happen

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

cosine

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm all for a Clooney version of Strange, especially if they can get footage from ER to use in flashbacks.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

A Doctor Strange movie would be neat, but I can't see how you could do it psychedelic justice considering the rather conservative aesthetic approach of the Marvel Movie U (i.e. Thor shoulda looked a lot cooler).

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thor = the movie, not the character.

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

eh Thor's pretty smashy-smashy, even in the Kirby era, never really thought of him as explicitly psychedelic. at least, not the way Dr. Strange is.

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

but a Dr. Strange movie could accomodate a fair amount of post-Harry Potter/Tim Burton/proto-goth/vampire silliness

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

That would be an actual crime.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

There was this one extra in the movie that kept popping up, too, at the end. First you see her in the coffee shop through a window looking scared. Several minutes later you see her being loaded onto an ambulance or evacuated or something. Then during the news scroll at the end she gets a few lines, saying she was forever grateful to Captain America or something like that. Maybe she's Whedon's niece?

Cool to hear Maria Hill is a real character. Hope she turns up later. I don't watch those shows she's on, so I was just struck by this model dropped into the SHIELD milieu. Not that there are a lot of ugly female superheroes ...

I would love a Dr. Strange movie.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

I just meant that occult/magic stuff has a lot more cultural currency at the moment, and a Dr. Strange vehicle could take advantage of that. Not that it would be good as a sub-Twilight campyfest.

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Loved the way Stark tried to recruit Banner to work for him. Most realistic moment in the movie.

hot slag (lukas), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

I didn't really word my initial post well, sorry

xp

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

xpost

eh Thor's pretty smashy-smashy, even in the Kirby era, never really thought of him as explicitly psychedelic. at least, not the way Dr. Strange is.

It may be telling that my ideal Thor movie involves Ego, The Living Planet. Let's hope that's the sequel.

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol would totally watch that YES

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

they already did an inhumans storyline with FF, right?

(Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

more of this please, Marvel Entertainment

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

tiny pic not really doin it just there :(

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

What seems to be a (minimal) gamble on the part of this movie and to an extent even Thor is opening up the layman Marvel universe, for lack of a better term - the superheroes swinging and fighting it out in cities - to the greater, nerdier Marvel universe, which includes countless metaphysical journeys, intergalactic wars, neo-theology and the like. I wonder how many fans of this movie know who Thanos is?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

the use of Thanos makes me genuinely sad. The story behind the character's creation is so cynical. as a Kirby partisan it just seems like yet another in an endless series of indignities

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

well, i like starlin but i do agree with you in principle

(Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

As shitty as the Kirby/Avengers situation is (pretty goddamn shitty), it's fair to consider Thanos' creation, at least in its original context of Starlin just having fun, as commentary and not so much exploitation/stealing.

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like Starlin too!

not as much as the New Gods tho. Starlin is like the Bee Gees to Kirby's Beatles.

xp

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

no argument there. But i think baez is right on and starlin is head and shoulders above someone who is just openly looting the kirby vaults... say, byrne for instance.

(Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

can someone give me a brief summary of what you're talking about here? i take it from upthread that thanos is an imitation of a dc character?

goole, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Meryl Streep as Thanos.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

thanos, a godlike interstellar khan character created by jim starlin, is an imitator both in character and look to the earlier, kirby-created darkseid.

Darkseid is DC. Thanos is Marvel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darkseid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanos

(Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thanos is an homage/ripoff of Kirby's character Darkseid from Kirby's Fourth World/New Gods cycle, which was one of the first things he created after his incredibly bitter departure from Marvel at the end of the 60s

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

it is interesting how little interest the marvel superhero franchises have had in the psychedelic/cosmic stuff that was once their bread & butter. thor flirted with it, but toned things down quite a bit. suppose that makes sense. mind-bending pop weirdness doesn't sell anywhere near as well as "realistic" action. i wanted a lot more psychedelic imagination out of the LOTR films, too. orange skies, purple trees, impossible structures and anatomies.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

seems like they were inevitably headed in that direction with the FF movies (you can't have the Silver Surfer without Galactus, really) but that franchise is obviously dead now

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

the thing you need to know: both thanos and darkseid are, effectively, gods that fight superheroes and worship death

(Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

blue skin, living planet, mind-melding

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

The FF movies came with the Marvel logo, but they weren't Marvel Studios. Marvel Studios movies, I imagine, will stick very much with the flattened out reality of the Avengers-related movies - you won't see any extreme stylization; I can't imagine that Raimi's charming little exclamation marks in the first set of Spider-Man movies (the way he'd cut at a particular moment as someone's screaming at the screen) would be allowed today.

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

seems like they were inevitably headed in that direction with the FF movies (you can't have the Silver Surfer without Galactus, really) but that franchise is obviously dead now

― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:42 (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

They had Galactus. He was a Warren Ellis-style cloud thingy

Number None, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

speaking of thanos/darkseid, i thought loki's 'i will liberate u by making u a slave' thing seemed like a pretty blatant anti-life equation ripoff?

Mordy, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

more nod than ripoff, but yeah

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

man it feels like ppl have been trying to make a doctor strange movie for forever

famous monsters of filmland used to print a list of movies in development in every issue, I remember seeing doctor strange on there back in the late 70s/early 80s

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

or maybe it was just this?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077469/

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

ha

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, it cracks me up when places like the new yorker refer to spider man / xmen as the first marvel movies.
we've been here before but with less at stake.

(Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Was "X-Men" the first good Marvel movie?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:32 (2 years ago) Permalink


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