review of nominations and VOTING for (very nebulously defined) ELECTRONIC DANCE TRACKS of the 00s

X-post But, but Ewan Pearson! And DJ Sprinkles!

Sigh, people around here have very high standards.

And Felix Da Housecat!

I admit I didn't vote for any Freemason's remixes but I did my best.

Which of awful, gay and/or homo is ewan pearson?

I don't know I'm not speculating about the man's sexuality, but that Goldfrapp remix is not terribly hetero.

Perhaps it's DJ Naughty's contribution to it, I believe he had co-writing credit on that one.

Trust DJ Naughty.

Somewhere within me the nerdy whiteboy Moodymann fan is in a deadly struggle against the Euro electrohouse loving DJ.

Chinbeard vs. body wax? Truly an epic struggle.

If you were truly an awful gay homo you would know that you can have both a chinbeard and a body wax.

Sorry, I'm being distracted by Tuomas' Greek thing at the moment. And I'll consider my awful gay homo status revoked.

I've got a lot of High NRG I need to sell, anybody want my Patrick Cowley records?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf9LJEGGQ5Y

I need to go to sleep, please carry on.

can't stand terre sprinkles so i intentionally defaced one of his entries

When you move on to a new thread, can you put a link on the old thread (as I've just done)? Some of us just check bookmarked threads 90% of the time, rather than scanning all the new answers. Cheers.

thank you again NBS

Sweet Like Chocolate was 1999, I think

got four ballots now

sweet like chocolate deleted

lol i forgot theo parrish. OH WELL

you want to send me a revised ballot feel free

no it's already pipecockian enough tbh

here's who i got so far

> pattern loader
> lamp fyi
> moka
> matt p

please don't let their awful taste ruin this poll!

VOTE EARLY AND OFTEN

;-)

Azzido Da Bass is 90s

I love 'Barbara Morgenstern', but it's not really danceable is it? Maybe I'm wrong. Don't want to open up that debate again though!

Exactly my thoughts on Barbara Morgan's turn too.

ok i'll get those when i get back from lunch

done, done and done

barbara morgenstern fans feel free to make a case for re-inclusion

Well, there's plenty of other stuff on the list that's not danceable: Deepchord, Voices from the Lake, Fever Ray, The Fires of Ork, Panda Bear, Pole, etc. So if you want to remove Barbara Panther, you should remove all those others too.

Don't want to open up that debate again though!

― Chewshabadoo, Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:42 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ok tuomas i removed fever ray, fires of ork, panda bear and pole

motion to remove deepchord and vftl rejected

anything else you want removed?

motion to remove deepchord and vftl rejected

Why? They aren't any more danceable than the Barbara Morgenstern tracks I nominated.

why? common sense, that's why.

now use those down votes sparingly tuomas, i'm going to weigh any other requests you have very carefully, four down votes is a hell of a lot more than i intend to give anyone else, so consider yourself lucky.

What "common sense"? What does that even mean?

we already know you don't know, tuomas, don't beat a dead horse

FWIW, I'm not for removing anything from the list; I don't really like the idea that this poll should correspond to a specific aesthetic of electronic music that's defined by the bobbins crew, and that stuff that's outside this aesthetic gets removed, even though people had nominated those tunes.

well, that's going to happen anyway based on the voting, isn't it?

anyway, if you don't like it, don't vote, feel free to organize a boycott, etc

or come up w/ a better argument than finger-pointing for why an artist pitchfork described as one of the leading exponents of the "synthification of indie pop" should be included in the poll

tell you what tuomas, on the off-chance that i'm being unfair to you (because your faux-naif posting style irritates me) i'm going to add morgenstern back to the list

BUT i'm NOT going to add the ones you x'd out back to the list ... don't know how you do it in finland, but in america we hardmen choose our words carefully.

let that be a lesson to you

>:-(

ok barbara's back

rip panda bear

or come up w/ a better argument than finger-pointing for why an artist pitchfork described as one of the leading exponents of the "synthification of indie pop" should be included in the poll

Because, like I already said in the nomination thread, the track I nominated is purely electronic with no singing or "real" instruments. Yeah, I know B. Morgenstern also has tunes that are more pop than electronic music, but I wasn't gonna vote for those.

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rip panda bear

I only listened to this track for the first time while going through the nominations list, and I have to say I'm completely baffled why someone would nominate it in an electronic music poll. It sounds like bad imitation of psychedelic-era Beatles or something.

I mean, if someone considers it electronic music, that's fine by me, but I just don't get it...

how about this

from now on, if anybody wants anything deleted, post a youtube link and i'll be the judge

for example ...

in america, there's a show called sesame street, which sometimes asks children to play a game called "One of These Things Is Not Like The Other"

why don't you play and tell me which one of these things *doesn't* have a 4x4 dance beat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuDNKfd_WFk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ClkDbLXvdQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8DKusXE1S0

i'm sorry if you think i'm being mean, tuomas, but when you play dumb i'm gripped by an urge to treat you as if you actually were dumb

i am actually sorry, though, i know i'm being trollish and grouchy

Yeah, I know those tracks have a 4/4 beat. So do many tracks by Pole or Barbara Morgenstern or Monolake, but I still don't see Deepchord or Voices from the Lake as any more dance music than the aforementioned three. They all use just the form of dance music, as a lot electronic producers who do "head" music have done before. I just can't imagine people dancing to Deepchord at a club, but maybe that's just me?

Anyway, my actual point was that the line between dancey and non-dancey electronic music is sometimes so thin that to me it seems like futile exercise to try to disqualify certain tunes because they're not "danceable" enough. I can understand leaving out stuff that's clearly more in the pop song than dance track mold, or things that seem to be in another genre altogether (like that Panda Bear song), but I can't really see any qualitative difference between artists like, say, Deepchord and Pole that would rule out the latter.

Those echospace tracks are definitely danceable - have you never been to a night playing dub techno? The voices from the lake tracks would sit in a Dozzy set (obviously!)

really?

i mean, you're serious?

*frowns, scratches tilted head w/ one hand while putting other hand akimbo on waist, as thought bubble with giant question mark forms in air*

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