(THIS) POLL REVERE(S) — ILM Artist Poll #19 — Beastie Boys VOTING THREAD

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always hear a lot of complaints that HN drops off in the second half but I dig it, it's structured like a party where the beginning's all wild and exuberant and by the end ppl are sleeping on the lawn or staring contemplatively at the fishbowl or giving incomprehensible shout-outs and listening to lee perry albums

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

but end up quietly reflecting on their own mortality

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

ha! yeah, i love that shout-out track. also the one that's like "ravers of the world - UNITE!"

i will show you fear in a handful of nuts (how's life), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

I think I like that aspect of the Beastie Boys, the reclining into self-awareness in the second halves of their albums (after LTI, I guess); but it's especially vivid in their three 90s albums. I recognize the switch but it's a turn-on for me after the boom of the singles.

Euler, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

this goes out to..... NEWCASTLE.... where VENOM come from

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

idk just listened to Ill Communication and was really feelin' that second half. Stoned jammy murk forever. This poll is impossible.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that side is the best

Euler, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

wonder how many more votes this gets than the all-time hip-hop poll. i'm gonna say 25-30.

― Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, May 9, 2012 1:50 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm a hoy hoy, that poll's popularity was ridic disappointing

― Euler, Wednesday, May 9, 2012 1:54 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well, it's a lot easier to get your mind around a handful of albums than three decades of history in one of the most vibrant and active pop genres. plus ILM rap, R&B & dance music heads are super territorial and dismissive of incorrect/inexpert opinions. takes the fun out of those genres for me (at least as they exist on this board).

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

Having that Beach Boys thread up at the same time as two important Beastie Boys threads is fucking up my game a little.

i will show you fear in a handful of nuts (how's life), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

so am I the only one here planning to vote for Groove Holmes? I've always dug that jam more than pretty much any of their other instrumental tracks (save, perhaps, for the +dB remix of Flute Loop that's on one of those Mo' Wax Heads comps). Then again, you could play chopsticks on a B3 and I'd be prob be smitten somehow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgJdgHiIMNQ&feature=related

fishermen are coveted by whores & stoners (Pillbox), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

I ended up choosing between In 3's and Groove Holmes... Holmes lost this time around. But I fuckin love that track, no matter what.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link

Groove Holmes is on my master list. Tomorrow i'm gonna game the two instrumental records + TT5B + whatever the last one is and.... aww jeez.

Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

Speaking of instrumentals, I finally got a copy of the Mix Up. It's really freaking good.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link

i like "groove holmes", but it won't make the final cut

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link

17 ballots in now and the results are still shifting all over the place.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:17 (eleven years ago) link

Groove Holmes is pretty great on the album where it is, but it wasn't one of my top instrumentals. no instrumentals made my list actually, although I kinda regret that vis a vis Eugene's Lament.

i will show you fear in a handful of nuts (how's life), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:19 (eleven years ago) link

hate to be all serious acid jazz head here but i honestly can't imagine listening to any of those beasties instrumentals on their own

the late great, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:29 (eleven years ago) link

I voted! Lots and lots and lots of weird bits and deep cuts on my ballot. Not being hard or anything, I just always liked the weirdo tracks on their albums rather than their party-hop classics. It's all good though.

I much prefer Ill Communication to Check Your Head. Check feels disjointed to me in a way that Ill Comm doesn't, but then I heard IC first and had come to a lot of the instrumentals on Check through the In SOund compilation, so that's always messed it up for me.

HEy, I always loved Johnny Ryall and Egg Man from Paul's Boutique - thought they were highlights!

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link

Ill Comm had great instrumentals too - Always loved Futterman's Rule and Transitions

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link

surprised by the number of people who fail to get with my consensus

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link

Also come to the conclusion that Hello Nasty is their best album. Edward III is 100% OTM about the second half of that album.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:33 (eleven years ago) link

late great - lay some fresh acid jazz on me. my experience was limited to one Acid Jazz label comp and a Groove Collective record back in the heyday.

i will show you fear in a handful of nuts (how's life), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:39 (eleven years ago) link

money mark - "money mark's keyboard repair"

a good roy ayers comp

you can stop there

the late great, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:43 (eleven years ago) link

lol. all I remember was plunking down $9.99 for something with James Taylor Quartet on it. it was really underwhelming for all the hype about acid jazz.

i will show you fear in a handful of nuts (how's life), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link

Also come to the conclusion that Hello Nasty is their best album. Edward III is 100% OTM about the second half of that album.

― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Wednesday, May 9, 2012 4:33 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

I agree as well. The high points might not be as high but it is more consistent than any of the others, even given its length.

sleeve, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:45 (eleven years ago) link

hate to be all serious acid jazz head here but i honestly can't imagine listening to any of those beasties instrumentals on their own

yeah I didn't vote for any of them

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:46 (eleven years ago) link

money mark - "money mark's keyboard repair"

this really is such a great album

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:48 (eleven years ago) link

srsly though i got into acid jazz partly through the beastie boys thing and then into trip hop and i still listen to trip hop (like old portishead and tricky and mo'wax and ninja tune albums from the 90s and even more obscure stuff) but acid jazz stuff i am completely over

the thing is that it's 99% just lesser imitations of actual jazz-funk and soul-jazz from the 60s and 70s and you certainly don't need me to recommend you any of that because i'd just be recommending all of the dudes that the beasties shout out to, herbie hancock, jimmy smith, freddie hubbard, donald byrd, eddie harris, les mccann, ramsey lewis etc etc etc

the late great, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:49 (eleven years ago) link

yup

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link

If we're talking about BBoys' cohort albums, Hurricane's album is really great too (and has one track with the Boys on it).

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link

thing is at the time it was easier for me to find the imitations than it was to find the originals. Groove Merchant was insanely pricey!

xp

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link

Hurricane's best moment was the Afros album

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link

which is fucking hilarious

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link

love mark's keyboard repair so much. such a dusty, warm, weird little record.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:53 (eleven years ago) link

Okay shit...I've never heard it, but I'm all over this Afros track.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:55 (eleven years ago) link

whole album is great. produced by Jam Master Jay

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:55 (eleven years ago) link

I'm listening to Money Mark's 'Push The Button' album for the first time in about 14 years. Nostalgia RUSH!!

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 10 May 2012 00:11 (eleven years ago) link

loved that album

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 May 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link

yeah Push The Button is really good

some dude, Thursday, 10 May 2012 01:35 (eleven years ago) link

i have a life and a job was too lazy to vote in the horror poll, but i could probably swing 20 beasties songs

suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 10 May 2012 01:40 (eleven years ago) link

have you considered getting a second job

some dude, Thursday, 10 May 2012 01:42 (eleven years ago) link

yeah it literally took me 10 minutes to put together my beasties ballot. horror movie ballot, well um uh yeah.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 01:45 (eleven years ago) link

thing is at the time it was easier for me to find the imitations than it was to find the originals. Groove Merchant was insanely pricey!

this is true, there wasn't that reissue / mp3 blog culture there is nowadays, thank you acid jazz

the late great, Thursday, 10 May 2012 01:45 (eleven years ago) link

my alltime fave beasties guest spot is this milk dee solo joint, I didn't vote for it but be my guest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnZo7Bx7wL4

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link

If we're talking about BBoys' cohort albums, Hurricane's album is really great too (and has one track with the Boys on it).

His first solo album has two tracks with the Boys on it (though iirc MCA isn't on Stick 'Em Up), plus the Australian edition (which came out earlier) has one or two more produced by them (eg Shaftman, the second best thing on it); his second album (which only came out on Wiiija) has one produced by Adrock; and the third has one with Adrock and Black Thought rapping, and one with Money Mark playing keys and Public Enemy rapping.

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Thursday, 10 May 2012 02:25 (eleven years ago) link

There was a second and a third? Not sure either of them ever crossed my radar.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 10 May 2012 04:06 (eleven years ago) link

20 ballots in. Two days left to vote. Do this!

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 10 May 2012 06:21 (eleven years ago) link

i'm taking a while mostly cuz i hadn't listened to illco and nasty in ages. nasty, especially, i really needed to spend some time with. it's way better than i remembered, O_O @ the back half. though i wouldn't go as far, i can see why so many count it as their favorite. certainly the most colorful & varied BBs album.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 07:08 (eleven years ago) link

II haven't even had time to put together a list of all their songs including b-sides and remixes and whatnot, let alone think about trimming it down. a six-day-poll seems really really short, especially at a time when people are going to be actively digging into the catalogue anyway

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Thursday, 10 May 2012 07:40 (eleven years ago) link


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